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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: burnemuppup on August 26, 2011, 09:39 am
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Placing an order and all feedback will be provided in this thread about the experience.
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His dealings in the past (coke, not meth) left a lot to be desired, but who knows, maybe he's gotten his shit together and has improved his customer service. I personally would wait until a few people have tried it first before pulling the trigger, but thanks nuthin for taking the plunge and starting this thread. Looking forward to your review.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=435.0
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Tokin' Minority, I suggest you really contact me, or have up-to-date, factual info what's going on CURRENTLY, before making baseless statements in an attempt to make me lose sales...
Initially, when I came on SR, before I got into the swing of the way BTC and such things work on here..I simply stated I would work with non escrow in ADDITION TO ESCROW orders...this somehow caused a massive confusion and you putting me on your famous cocaine vendors thread and sullying my name.
I have just got a recent 5/5 review and my shipping is fast as f*** right now. I have had supply issues to certain escrow orders in the past which I rectified...and I have even refunded clients BTC...so before you list me as the lowest on your cocaine thread, please know the facts.
The very fact that I still remain, have MORE PRODUCT to offer, and my customer service is 24/7 and top-notch compared to last month as I (the real supplier of VMM) is in charge of the account...whereas before I was behind the scenes and letting an associate run the SR front...which led to delays in communication and escorw orders...) If I was a scammer or something else....why would I remain on this account trying to improve my reputation and my variety of products.....wouldnt I just have left and started a new name etc, .....?
I AM DETERMINED to prove to you the quality of ALL my products are top notch, and my shipping time is immaculate.
I OPERATE SOLELY THROUGH ESCROW AND YOU LIST ME on your thread as "avoid this vendor"?
TOKIN MINORITY...I APPRECIATE YOUR COCAINE VENDOR THREAD, mainly because it's made with best intentions for the SR community.
However, your information is outdated on me....I have several people who can attest to fast shipping, good product, and even refunds when a customer was unhappy with shipping time for a specific order...
I DO USE PGP, and I will be updating my profile with my new KEY....I mainly use TorPM and privacyBox.....I am LEGIT MY MENU IS STRAIGHT ESCROW ....and I would appreciate if you would help me serve the SR community better instead of dogging me.
Thanks : 8)
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Hey Vortex,
Thanks for coming on to clear things up. My statements weren't baseless (your first few customers can attest to this), and even you admit that you had a rocky start. In this particular meth post I also gave you the benefit of the doubt about having improved your service.
I have noticed you are staying with the same nick and work to regain people's trust instead of coming up with a new name. Further, your feedback has been consistently 5/5 lately.
I agree that it's not fair to hang your past mistakes on you forever, so I will update the list to include this thread and delete the outdated "avoid" warning. I actually want as many good vendors and options here as possible, and I have nothing to gain from "making you lose sales".
Thanks again for posting, I apologize for any hard feelings, and I hope this settles it. Kudos on your hard work and good luck with the business.
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I attempted to place an order with vortexmilkman for some of his blow a while back. Honestly, the experience left a lot to be desired. He didn't ship when he said he would and even asked me to finalize early, offering to throw in an extra half gram.
I don't think he's a scammer, but I think he needs to step his game up a bit. Everybody who has tried his blow says it's some of the finest on here, but good product isn't enough. If he shipped quickly and efficiently, he would have a lot more success here on SR.
Still, I think I'm going to try him out again. He never wronged me in anyway and people are receiving from him. Therefore, I think it's bullshit to tell people to "avoid him."
Vortexmilkman, if you can improve your customer service and shipping time, I would definitely love to try out some of that meth.
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Hey manlyman, I appreciate your response!
Last week I was waiting for a bunch of BTC to clear from a delay from my exchanger, so I couldn't get those Cola orders out via escrow to you until I cleared some BTC.
Sorry about that!
I feel my customer service is top-notch as I am always available and 24/7 responsive, much better than before.
Everything's back on track and I have more product and as u know the new Crystal now available.
My current batch of this crystal is extremely good, and nonetheless have several backup sources now well-organized to ensure a steady influx of quality product.
Manly, go ahead and order the crystal.. I assure you you will be in good hands.
I'll do you a special bonus- If you order the crystal in the next 24h I will add an extra .5g of to your order to make up for the delay on the cola ship-out from last 10 days!
All customers who ordered so far has been taken care of and messaged privately of shipping info and updates.
Everything's on deck!
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LOL
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have several backup sources now well-organized to ensure a steady influx of quality product
+1
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i mite just switch from heroin to meth...no H on SR:( but everything else is here...
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Aaaahh, I'm so anxious to order from you! I mailed CampBX a check yesterday morning and I've just been horrified that I won't get the BitCoins in time to buy some! ;__;
I only saw 1 or 2 bad reviews on your feedback, and shit happens, so I'm not really too worried as far as that goes. But I could only find 1 other individual that sold Meth, and all their reviews were bad, so I'm impatiently awaiting my money to go through to get some from a trusted seller! I hope you're able to sell it for a while, because I'm so excited!
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I've placed an order with vortex milkman, for quality control purposes only. @_@
:D
nomad bloodbah
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that is a feedback issue,
i guy left me a 0 out of 0 but that is not possible, you can only choose from 1 to 5
that is a SR issue, you should PM them on the site. they fixed my problem
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I am very interested in ONLY very good quality meth, as close to pharma grade as possible don't want any of that stuff half cut with MSM or isopropylbenzylamine etc.
I am getting low... need a new supplier.
Silk road totally changed since the last time I was on it's much better now..
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My dealer got busted like a month ago, and I have barely been able to get like 1 gram every 2 weeks, which is horrible! I'm so excited to begin using Silk Road.
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I'm so excited to begin using Silk Road.
Yes you are!
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I had misgivings about vmm but ordered anyway. Sure enough, after reading all the threads and looking at all his feedback, it’s déjà vu all over again.
On Friday evening, he said it would go out the next morning (Saturday 8/27).
Monday it was still not ‘in transit’ so I messaged him. Tuesday he said he got a lot of orders but mine just went out. He will send a tracking number as soon as he got home.
Now it’s Thursday morning, no tracking number. But it was marked in transit.
Is it or isn’t it? He knows but he’s not saying. He won’t answer my last message asking for the DCN number…which HE promised to send me.
All I know is, it’s marked in transit. For all the promises made and failed, and now the silence, I suspect the deal is a fraud and the order is going to go to resolution.
I sure miss SRDP.
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If it was legitimately sent when he promised, I should get it today based on shipping time (even cross-country) for all my other orders.
I expect to find it in my mailbox the same day monkeys fly out my ass.
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I sure miss SRDP.
What happened to SRDP? Really?
I have an order about to go to resolution. He was rock solid and I even early finalized my last order but I had a feeling this time and I didn't thank goodness.
And I now I have have a policy:
Now matter how good a vendor has been don't early finalize if it's a lot of BTC and they don't have any more items listed.
And only being here for 2 months is not really a history no matter how good you did in that time I guess.
I haven't had a response for 2 days and the subject headers are still bold. That means they are unread right?
What the hell happened to SRDP?
I'm still sending PM's every day and hoping it's not what it looks like but I'm glad SR is what it is and escrow works.
Now I'm looking at this vendor and not getting a very good feeling from these posts.
I'll wait to see how F104's risk turns out.
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SRDP said he would be back when he gets the next batch that was up to par as his first.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Well I finally got a response.
I would rather have heard sooner, it seems others knew and I didn't.
I would have known not to bother checking for it every day but at least he got back to me and refunded my BTC without needing to go to resolution.
Waiting on F104 for an update here now. I hope SRDP gets back up soon.
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BP: it was no secret, SRDP said he would restock and be back. All I meant when I said I missed him was that..well, I wish he was here already with fresh product. Nothing more. Hell, I have hardly broken into the last order I got from SRDP.
I hammered VMM in another thread but I was pretty hot when I did, and I more or less duplicated it in this thread.
He SWEARS it's coming and everything is cool. I have to believe him. I want to, but making multiple promises (when it will ship, DCN, making me ask repeatedly for info) then not keeping the promises and being non-communicative takes a seller's cred down to zero IMO.
I should not have posted here as vehemently as I did. In the other thread I said to VMM that I will be happy to eat my words.
Sorry for the drama, more heat than light.
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What happened to SRDP? Really?
I have an order about to go to resolution. He was rock solid and I even early finalized my last order but I had a feeling this time and I didn't thank goodness.
I'm still sending PM's every day and hoping it's not what it looks like but I'm glad SR is what it is and escrow works.
wait a minute...re-reading...you're saying you didn't get an order from SRDP and he isn't answering your messages? am I reading that right?
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What happened to SRDP? Really?
I have an order about to go to resolution. He was rock solid and I even early finalized my last order but I had a feeling this time and I didn't thank goodness.
I'm still sending PM's every day and hoping it's not what it looks like but I'm glad SR is what it is and escrow works.
wait a minute...re-reading...you're saying you didn't get an order from SRDP and he isn't answering your messages? am I reading that right?
I think he's saying that he did make an order, but unlike in the past, he did not finalize early on this one.
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OK!
F104, I guarantee this weekend will surely be an interesting one for you.
1) You're gonna be zooted on my Crystal.
2) Monkeys are gonna be flying out your ass.
Enjoy! =)
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OK!
F104, I guarantee this weekend will surely be an interesting one for you.
1) You're gonna be zooted on my Crystal.
2) Monkeys are going to be come flying out your ass.
Enjoy! =)
Ooo Ooo Ooo, I want monkeys flying out of my ass too! :D
nomad bloodbath
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Yes, that is what happened.
I had a fairly large amount of money in escrow.
I had several rock solid transactions with him already and as I learn (by reading these forums) I came to understand how early finalizing a solid vendor can help them.
I early finalized the last transaction. It wasn't as much as the one that never showed.
The fact that this time it was more that I was comfortable risking and that all of his listings were gone made me choose to leave it in escrow.
The usually lightning fast arrival time came and went. Several more days went by.
As I started thinking I was going to be going to resolution (again.....Illy!) I started sending PMs. I have learned that resolution can hurt a buyers rep as well as the seller and I don't want to have to use it.
We had been having trouble with PGP the last few PM's (before the order went late and then missing that is) so I was sending basic PMs in clear text.
No response until about an hour after I saw the "I wish SRDP was back) reference and made my post.
I then had a PM from SR informing me the order had been canceled and a PM from SRDP apologizing for not checking his account and that my order was sent and it and some others didn't show and if it does someday show I could pay him then. If it does I will.
I had never seen any info from him nor anyone else that he was going down for a while. This thread was my only clue other than one feedback of his that said an order didn't show.
When and where did he tell everyone else? I didn't get the memo.
Now...... not knowing this, if you consider only 2 months active on the road, a sudden disappearance of a fairly good and varied inventory, mysterious PGP problems that don't happen with anyone else, and my stating my trust openly in him and that I was finalizing early in my last order's feedback.........what would you guys/gals be wondering was up?
I had a number of all bad possibilities running through my head. The sudden response after making my post adds in another factor. Coincidence? Maybe.
I don't want to think bad of anyone but I have to be real too.
He canceled the order and kept us both out of resolution. That's a big plus.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he gets up again soon. I wanted that order!
This should probably be in it's own thread but I was waiting to give him a chance before starting one.
I only brought it up when I saw the reference to "I wish SRDP were here" and wondered who knew what I didn't.
Now what's the word on this "jamesbrown" and his stamp bags?
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Hmmmmm, monkeys out my ass?
BarrySneaky said it would be so well packaged that I would have a hard time finding it. I never found it LOL!
When I see these monkeys we will talk.
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Placing an order and all feedback will be provided in this thread about the experience.
placed my order mondayaugust 29 recieved thursday sept 1 excellent packageing product is excellent all around great hopeing to order more today this person is what silk road is all about.keep upi the good work.
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My order is currently out on delivery, so i'll have mine in 3-4 hours...;)
I'll let you guys in on more details tonight.
Will give updates in about 6 hours after tested. @_@
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Update: Meth is top notch, clear as glass...burns cleaner than SRDP.
Will definitely purchase more ASAP when he gets more.
HEHEHE
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Monkeys out of your ass eh?
Hope he lists more soon.
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Monkeys out of your ass eh?
Hope he lists more soon.
Well one is on my shoulder now and the other one just has his head out my ass.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Not my issue not my prob, not even my drug. Just wanted to say damn straight to straighten out your old profile instead of running off and coming back with a new name. Gotta give props where props are due...
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Just guess I gotta wait or move to America. Which could be an option. :)
If you move, just pick a tiny town in a southern state to move to. Chances are there are cheap and plentiful methamphetamines.. LOL! Lucky for me, my friend was able to hook me up the other day, so I'm not quite as desperate, ahaha.. But I still hope VortexMilkMan gets a new batch soon!
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I will start with the downside then finish with the positive.
The bad: VMM made promises he didn'tt keep. He sent messages that turned out to be bullshit.
People need to do what they say and promise what they can do, not what they imagine others want to hear. People get angry when they're lied to.
The killer: he sent me a message on 8/29 SWEARING he was on the way home from having mailed it. But he marked it in transit on 8/30. When I got it, it was postmarked 9/1.
So, if he tells *you* the truth, it may just be an accident, your lucky day. Another time, maybe he would have told me the truth.
When I placed the order on 8/27 I believed that I would have the stuff before the holiday weekend. I was going to do some qualitative tests of SRDP’s product vs. VMM’s. But, I didn’t get VMM’s until 9/3 so my test program went off the rails.
The good: I use meth two ways, usually orally in apple juice, less often I smoke it. Two very different highs. So far I have only smoked VMM’s. At the time I got it, I had not smoked SRDP’s. Recently I smoked SRDP’s for the 1st time. I agree with nomad bloodbath, VMM’s smokes better.
Smoked, they both felt equally rushy. The highs felt about the same and lasted about as long. But I don’t hammer meth. Once the rocket clears the tower I am done.
My conclusion: I was pissed at VMM for his bullshit. I have cooled off but that doesn’t change facts. He behaved to me with disrespect and lies. Another fact is, the crystal he peddled me seems pretty good so far. It will be a bit longer before I know it well but I am not unhappy so far with the product.
Everyone remember: finalizing quickly is a courtesy. It’s not required. Be sure you are OK with the product cuz after you finalize you have no recourse. If the seller is an asshole or a liar, like I said, finalizing quickly is a courtesy not an obligation. You have 20 days.
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So basically you stated you received product, that you were "not unhappy with"..arrived, and you holding some high and mighty judgment and decide to fuck with the finalization and my review just for your own personal "revenge"? Dude, you coulda msged me and I woulda sent you some free shit just to be make up for the 48 hour delay WHICH I WARNED YOU ABOUT.
I appreciate your honest feedback, but your faulting my feedback and business for revenge.
Are we not a community? Or are we here to fuck each other over until no one is left?
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So basically you stated you received product, that you were "not unhappy with"..arrived, and you holding some high and mighty judgment and decide to fuck with the finalization and my review just for your own personal "revenge"? Dude, you coulda msged me and I woulda sent you some free shit just to be make up for the 48 hour delay WHICH I WARNED YOU ABOUT.
I appreciate your honest feedback, but your faulting my feedback and business for revenge.
Are we not a community? Or are we here to fuck each other over until no one is left?
Yo where's my meth, you got me on it now...don't let me down or i'll have your head on a platter. :P
Seriously how many unfinalized orders do you have out there?
We are dying here to get more of your product.
Please guys if you have unfinalized orders with vortex finalize them so the rest of us can play "Jesse" and have all week basehead parties.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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So basically you stated you received product, that you were "not unhappy with"..arrived, and you holding some high and mighty judgment and decide to fuck with the finalization and my review just for your own personal "revenge"? Dude, you coulda msged me and I woulda sent you some free shit just to be make up for the 48 hour delay WHICH I WARNED YOU ABOUT.
I appreciate your honest feedback, but your faulting my feedback and business for revenge.
Are we not a community? Or are we here to fuck each other over until no one is left?
1. You lied to me twice.
2. Sending me product is your job. Your reward for that is to get paid. Doing it well gets you a high score. Doing the way you did it gets you a 3, which maybe should be a 2. A 5 is not for merely delivering product at some date.
3. “Fuck with finalization” I got it on 9/3 and finalized on 9/7. And it was postmarked 9/1, remember - that's how how I finally found out when it was sent. No thanks to you.
4. “Revenge” Any problems you have you made for yourself. But currently you are doing a fine job screwing yourself, no one needs to pile on. Go ahead, hit yourself again.
5. You told me about a 48 hour delay? No, you did not. You’re lying. Don’t you know when to keep your mouth shut? Now you posted a third lie about our deal and this one is in the open forum. In fact, when you failed to send me a DCN after promising it, you stopped answering my messages. I called you out here in the forum, then you messaged me with the 2nd lie about having just sent the package. 48 hour delay, warned me? I don’t see that one in my inbox at the marketplace. Why you think you need to lie your way out of this...jeez, what a tool.
You’re drawing an incredible amount if attention to yourself, and for what? Are the facts going to change? You did what you did. Not only are you keeping this fresh in front of everyone, you’re creating new problems for yourself by inventing new lies. Your reputation here looks pretty bad, you think this is helping?
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Ok this is getting quite tiresome, this back and forth has been going on too long, the issues are out there on the forums lets move on. F104 will never be a vortexmilkman customer again and vortexmilkman will not vend to F104 again...end of story. If either of you are not happy with the situation PM me directly don't keep slinging this shit on the forums. It's really starting to bother me. I'll take care of further post by either of you on this situation from now on and your posts will be pointless. So just move on.
nomad bloodbath
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How does my rep look bad here when you're the only person creating the scene, talkin bout lies and bs.
Whatever, as nomad said, you've made up your mind.
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11th day International suppose that aint that badddd. patieeenceeeeeee is killing me and these weekends. bAH
If you know the exact correct way to smoke it then it's worth the wait, believe me.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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LOL I'm sure I'll manage. ;D
The pipe needs a good clean though!
The suspense is killing me!
LOL...clean it for gods sake.
Also so many don't know how to smoke it they burn it and blow out huge amounts of methwhich as still all meth vapors.
Heat and cool, heat and cool. :P
:D
nomad bloodbath
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I see F104 got product.. but never seen it listed on vortex's silk road page.. oh i guess he got it when he had some?
I guess when vortex gets more he'll list it? I'm interested and if its good and not too pricey i know many more who want.
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Hey everybody!
Was out of stock so had to de-list the meth listings.
Good news, just restocked on some bomb stuff from a new source.
However, due to a bunch of bulk orders I had pending, a bunch of it has been already sold, so it's limited stock available from this batch.....GRAB EM WHILE YOU CAN.
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Ha!
Looks like I got the last one!
Is it as good as what nomad got & F104 got? This new source?
If so I wish it were a bigger sack.
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you beat me to it bp ;)
I literally had it in my cart, and then checked something else, went back to my cart, and it was suddenly empty. Been waiting a week for that listing to come up too.
Enjoy!
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vortex you ass...you knew i wanted more...damnit...next batch first bag is mine.
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Sorry guys. I feel I have it coming after my SRDP disappointment though...............
I hope it's as good as the last.
Thank God for d-amphetamine. I wouldn't have made it through the last two weeks.
Off to go shopping.........
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Just listed a couple more Grams of this new bomb stuff.
Grab em up quick!
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Nomad, I reserved a 0.5g in your custom listing....and if there's any left in the public listings, feel free to grab those too...
And to all those wondering.yes this new batch is much clearer, more shardy and of higher-quality.
Thanks
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Thanks order out in the morning? :D
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Yes, shipping first thing in the morning. My team is ready to go!
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Does that mean the orders should be out by now? Mine still says *processing* :-(
However, if so, I'm really excited!
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Does that mean the orders should be out by now? Mine still says *processing* :-(
However, if so, I'm really excited!
Mine just now went in transit...so he should have them all in transit in the next 5 minutes.
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All new orders as of last 12 hours etc, has been shipped off, you all should be marked off and in-transit.
Expecting some more quantity, so look out for when the listing goes back up.
:)
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Oh man now I'm excited that it'll be here in time for the weekend! 8)
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Got my order today, even bigger shards, vaporizes clean, high quality.
Back to my zoot!
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Damn! Not here!
Someone else came through with a different product in very fast turnaround time though. :)
I guess you live closer, get preferential treatment as a mod (dick) or LE grabbed mine. The last two comments were not intended to be taken seriously.
Now I have to find an excuse to leave from a very busy project and beat "those who need not see anything that might raise questions" to the delivery point.......again :(
Ahh, such is the SR life. I wish government, moral authoritarians and looters would all just go away already so i can buy what I want from the corner market.
Or at least pull the fangs of law from these destroyers of civilized interaction and commerce.
Ramble on.............
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I guess you live closer, get preferential treatment as a mod (dick) or LE grabbed mine. The last two comments were not intended to be taken seriously.
I, like nomad, received my order today and was very happy with it (the service, the packaging, the product). If you did order, I'm sure it'll be there later this week - he only shipped it two days ago!!! I'm sure you just live further along the main distribution channels.
At least for me, VMM is really living up to the promise of a good vendor! It seems like his feedback was a little rocky earlier, but I like to think he learnt what it takes to be a great vendor!
I guess that's why we cut new vendors some slack - it's pretty hard to pick up all the intricacies of SR so quickly!
But yes, I think we all agree about the "Corner Market." :-p
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well said bp.
it's ridiculous that partaking in a non-violent activity in the privacy of your own home is "against the law", and even worse, said laws are actively enforced. If I wanted some institution to tell me right from wrong, or what private activities are allowed and not allowed, I'd sign up for some religion.
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Got my order today, even bigger shards, vaporizes clean, high quality.
Back to my zoot!
:D
nomad bloodbath
Hiya Nomad,
Wannna be my bitch?
Since you get express, next time place a bigger order and I will fund it all: even yours.
Then once received priority mail to me down here in Antartica. Otherwise I gotta wait until Vortex gets another batch, bit of a pain especially with the 10+ business day wait for the delivery.
I don't like missing out. :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[ :-[ 8) ;)
LOL I missed out on the last batch.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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I MISSED OUT ON ALL OF THEM! Fml. Lmfao! :P
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I MISSED OUT ON ALL OF THEM! Fml. Lmfao! :P
Put his profile page in your bookmarks and then keep a lookout for him to post in this thread.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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well said bp.
it's ridiculous that partaking in a non-violent activity in the privacy of your own home is "against the law", and even worse, said laws are actively enforced. If I wanted some institution to tell me right from wrong, or what private activities are allowed and not allowed, I'd sign up for some religion.
Or believe religiously in the righteousness of government, as so many do.
There is nothing wrong with either as long as they restrict themselves to NOT using force unjustly.
The law is nothing but organized cooperation in assisting the individual with defense, violent defense if necessary, against those who would attack his person, take his rightfully owned property or force his decisions and actions.
This organization gains no powers by it's creation that the individual, whom it serves as an extension of, did not have in the first place.
We do not create new rights by forming groups or collectives.
If I did not have the right to tell my neighbor what to do when it has not actually (not possibly or potentially may) violated my right to person and property, then we don't gain that right magically by forming gangs and voting for policies clearly in contradiction to this principle.
We don't gain the right to take his possessions and either keep them or give them to others either.
So then this includes what he consumes or how much value he accumulates through voluntary means that are not theft of graft.
That's right, the War on Drugs and the looted tax dollars they fund it with.
Maybe 80% of the people are incapable or unwilling to admit the conclusions that must be drawn by this simple logical mental experiment, usually because they want something, want something done or want others controlled in a way that they can't manage themselves and need to force others to help.
Everyone here should read or listen to Frederic Bastiat's "The Law". (free pdf and mp3 all over the web, including itunes)
You will never see "law and order" the same if read with an open mind.
Even if you believe there are "special conditions" where people initiating no aggression against others and who mind their incidental or accidental emissions and effects upon others' and their property STILL must be controlled.
And there are plenty who want both the freedom to consume drugs but have no problem stealing someone's money to fund what they believe "should" be done in the name of society, especially if that victim happens to have been harder working and better at creating and saving wealth (or at least appear so) than the "reformer" :)
BTW, there is nothing as evil as a law that is left on the books but not enforced. It allows selective enforcement, usually after it has been forgotten about by and large.
Sorry, I'm off doing it again.......
Anyway....I've had stuff come from about as far on the continent as possible in 2 days. Just did actually. It's a crap shoot as to what sorting facilities will be routed from any 2 points.
I would bet it comes today.
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Hooray!
VMM has it going on from what I can see.
Whatever problems may have been are, I hope, over and done, and what we see now will be his business model.
If he can keep that up he will be impressive.
Godspeed man ;D
I had the same hopes for SRDP though.
Time will tell.
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I sure hope you guys turned on the "Notify" option :P
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/7873
Bonus points if you can guess why I'm refreshing SR at this time of night. 8)
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I sure hope you guys turned on the "Notify" option :P
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/7873
Bonus points if you can guess why I'm refreshing SR at this time of night. 8)
I noticed 23 minutes ago. :P
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YESSSSSS! I just placed my order, I'm so excited! :D
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Should I finalize my order as soon as it's marked "In Transit"? I know it's more my choice, but since I have no history I understand why it would be preferred. I have no problem doing so, I was just curious.
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Should I finalize my order as soon as it's marked "In Transit"? I know it's more my choice, but since I have no history I understand why it would be preferred. I have no problem doing so, I was just curious.
It's really up to you and how much you trust the seller. Your also new so, your buyer stats might not be as good. I would finalize because Vortex has a pretty good rep, but that's just my humble opinion.
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Should I finalize my order as soon as it's marked "In Transit"? I know it's more my choice, but since I have no history I understand why it would be preferred. I have no problem doing so, I was just curious.
No, you shouldn't. The escrow system is in place for a reason. It's mainly to protect the buyer. Don't give that protection away for no reason.
I guess if you have no buying history you may have to the first few times, but in general, there's no good reason to.
Sometimes a reputable seller with a good reputation becomes a scammer overnight. I'm not saying vortexmilkman is going to do that, I'm just saying that it happens, and it has happened right here on Silk Road. The only thing you have to protect you is the escrow feature. Keep that in mind.
Here's my advice. Wait until you receive your product. Test it out. Wait a day. And then if all is as it should be, finalize the order.
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Should I finalize my order as soon as it's marked "In Transit"? I know it's more my choice, but since I have no history I understand why it would be preferred. I have no problem doing so, I was just curious.
No, you shouldn't. The escrow system is in place for a reason. It's mainly to protect the buyer. Don't give that protection away for no reason.
THIS.
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Oh my god, I am SHOCKED! In a good way! I placed my order Saturday, Sept. 17, and it's already here! I was expecting to see it around wednesday or thursday, but it's here it's here it's here! It weighs a little more than it was supposed to which of course is excellent, it was VERY well packaged, very unnoticeable and discreet. I apologize if I sound like a total noob, I'm sure I do, but I'm so excited that it is here, I can't wait to place another order! VMM is an EXCELLENT vendor!
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That was sure quick! :D :D
I gotta wait bout another 8 days to receive mine. This would be my 2nd order.
Shit, that blows. US to US shipping is so tits. This product is very nice, hopefully he will keep up the good work!
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That was sure quick! :D :D
I gotta wait bout another 8 days to receive mine. This would be my 2nd order.
Shit, that blows. US to US shipping is so tits. This product is very nice, hopefully he will keep up the good work!
tits. I love that expression. How was your weekend? Tits. Say it all.
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Oh my god, I am SHOCKED! In a good way! I placed my order Saturday, Sept. 17, and it's already here! I was expecting to see it around wednesday or thursday, but it's here it's here it's here! It weighs a little more than it was supposed to which of course is excellent, it was VERY well packaged, very unnoticeable and discreet. I apologize if I sound like a total noob, I'm sure I do, but I'm so excited that it is here, I can't wait to place another order! VMM is an EXCELLENT vendor!
I ordered mine on the 17th as well, hope it arrives soon like yours, as it would work out great right now!
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Me too on the 17th. Today should be the day. My nose is burning with anticipation! ;D
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Me too on the 17th. Today should be the day. My nose is burning with anticipation! ;D
That's what I thought too...but the mail man said otherwise...craptacular. I did get my green and xanax today though, that could of arrived a few days later.
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He told me he had shipped my order saturday, the same day I ordered it. I ordered mine earlier in the day so maybe he didn't ship yours till monday? I dunno, but I hope you guys get yours soon!
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I ordered mine Friday night, and VM won't say when it shipped, just that it has. So I'm guessing it didn't get shipped till Monday. I'll check the postmark when I get it....
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I tried PM'ing you a couple of times. I would like to do some business, so hit me back if interested.
Peace
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Still not arrived, but everything I ordered on Monday has arrived. WTF :-\
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Hello everyone, pleased to inform all orders placed has been en route for over 72 hours already, so if you haven't got your pkg yet (DEVIOUS1,etc) please check your messages for the tracking.
Found out some orders that was given to my shipping team over the weekend, didn't make it out until late Monday....so if your order was delayed please contact me and I will send you a free make-up gift as well as a future guarantee against ever having a delay again.
At any rate, everyone should be receiving the high-quality shards safely, regardless of delay :)
This last week has been extremely hectic and I appreciate those of you who understand!
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vortex,
i wanted to know whether you have had any luck shipping to australia?
reading the reports about your stuff is making me really jealous! the stuff here is poor at best.
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Got my order. Only took 9 business days, shipped internationally. It was a smooth first transaction, and its great stuff, exactly as described - tested today - Potent, feels great. Don't have a scale so couldn't say if its over, but it looks huge, and will last a few weeks.
Thanks again, Vortex.
jhdrgdzw
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Don't have a scale so couldn't say if its over, but it looks huge, and will last a few weeks.
OH YEAH that's what I forgot to mention! I weighed what I bought from him and they were a tiny bit overweight, which is excellent because I'm used to buying meth from my person who always takes like 0.20 out of it.. Lol so that was nice!
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vortex,
i wanted to know whether you have had any luck shipping to australia?
reading the reports about your stuff is making me really jealous! the stuff here is poor at best.
Yes, yes, and yes, with previous success to AUS..
so if you live down under you are GOOD TO GO. ;)
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VMM you need to put up more listings! Lol :)
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Mine came today. It's post marked the 20th so it only took two days to get after it shipped. A couple days isn't a big deal to me as long as it gets here safely. I booted a little to try it and the quality is good. Thanks again.
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Yes, yes, and yes, with previous success to AUS..
so if you live down under you are GOOD TO GO. ;)
Okies, well I see that your listing has gone :(, guess I will wait till it comes back, please let me know!
Get on it like donkey kong. No in all seriousness someone who is me had a successful delivery down under when I lived there not so long ago from the V man. That being said, that was just a test with what I assume more to come, hopeful anyway. The shit locally sends ya broke and unless you got a good source, your likely getting fucked on every 2nd one.
Fucking hell bro, tell me about it ... Just bought a gram/grizzam for $350 ... dirtiest shit, but other than that its dry as fuck in the most populous city over here ...
Anyways, vortex looking forward for your relisting. Thanks ;)
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Unbelievable quality, 5 stars 10 if it would let me! Arrived a little later, but life worked out to make even that a good thing. Couldn't be happier! Thanks VM
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Great news everybody. Just got some FRESH GLASS IN!
More listings up!
Grab em while they're hot :)
Read, set, go!
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Excellent. Now I just need to get some btc in my account. :)
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Sounds great! I am excited and glad your restocked V!
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Ok someone is letting me borrow some BTC to get a 0.5. I'm giving in lol... btw i'm very trusted on other boards if that has anything to do with buying here i'm new here but if its still there (the listing) when i get the BTC in my SR acct i'm gonna buy it and see how this works/goes. I'll def report back on quality (if i don't miss out this time).
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Are you going to restock or put up any more listings? I just deposited some bitcoin specifically hoping to catch one of your half grams.
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OCTOBER 13th UPDATE:::::::::::--------––––
Sorry to the few of you left you had/have orders whose ship-out was/has-been delayed..
I have been away, and until last nite, had to put the business on hold for up to a week...with only one chance last week to handle a random amount of ship-outs.
Had SERIOUS emergencies, had to go out of town and had no secure communication to SR or my personal updates on shipping, so everything was on pause.
I apologize for any delays.
All pending orders have been handled.
Applicable tracking info will be relayed to those who qualify (domestic priority).
THANKS FOR YOUR TRUST AND PATIENCE!
.....P.S..... AND YES! WE ARE WORKING ON SECURING MORE CRYSTAL FOR STABLE, CONSISTENT SUPPLY TO SR !
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NEW STOCK IN.
CUSTOMERS WHO RECEIVED DURING THE SR OUTAGES, PLEASE DONT FORGET TO FINALIZE!
ALL IS WELL!
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Well damn, lol im nearly sold out already, :D
got another O on the way hopefully before Monday.
Will keep you guys updated.
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They went in a flash. I read the message and by the time I got to the listings it was gone. Oh well, maybe next time.
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IM BAAAAAAAAAACK!
and Better than EVER!
Fresh, consistent flow of even better crystal than before!
Shard CITY! Come one! Come All!
V
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Saw the .25 listing and decided to grab some.
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That's great to hear! A steady consistent flow of meth from the Milk Man is excellent news, lol!
The last half I got from you was fucking amazing, so I can't even imagine what this batch must be like if it's even better!
I'm just a broke bitch right now lol. :'( But hopefully I can try to grab some before it's gone again.
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Saw your listings come up today for the first time, I was skeptical. Couple hours later I see this thread and read the whole thing. I'll be placing an order this weekend if they're still up. Most of this thread is months old, and it's still a great example of a vendor willing to explain his position when criticized about his services.
These forums are incredibly helpful.
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No money here either. :'( I'll order this weekend too if I have the cash.
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placed my first order today. i will update when received but from the looks of this thread it seems everything will be a ok
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has anybody been able to talk to vortexmilkman since thursday? it says he has been on each day but no response to personal pm's. anybody have anything shipped since thursday?
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I placed an order yesterday and it shows in transit this morning.
It was close to mail cutoff time yesterday and I guess it was stupid for me to force a choice between sitting in PO Sunday or else possibly all Thanksgiving weekend. Might still happen that way. I hope not.
I've only got 1 PM from him ever....just product. And it shows 2 days after postmark.
The post mark WAS 2 days after being marked in transit last time and took 4 total but 4 days is still fast and I don't yet feel a need to communicate with him. He has come through every time, usually way fast and usually overweight and always high quality.
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its cool he finally responded today. turns out he was out of town and just got back. I'm really excited and i hope i made the right decision since i was torn between him and dopeboy. from what everybody says here though i get more confident by the the post.
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ordered yesterday...still processing....but will report when it arrives ;)
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has anybody heard from Mr V?
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i put in an order for a .5 and requested a pgp key ;; 3.5 days later he pms me and asks for my address.
we had a short convo how about how i don't send my address via cleartext and that it wasn't an issue since i'd placed an order with walterjr/heisenburg ~~ he asked me to keep my order and he would get pgp sorted in time but to send my address.
thankfully he never put the order in transit, i was able to cancel my order that morning and two days later i got the 1g i ordered from walterjr.
i'm sure he's an alright guy but dude seems kinda busy/out of it -- glad we have options here on the road.
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Got it!
Now I can't get on to finalize! Doh!
VM......I'm tryin man!
I should have just early finalized. He hasn't let me down yet.
Hope the road comes up again today.
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Re: bp
Thanks for the kind words BP!
Take your time finalizing....some people havent finalized yet and they already received, so its all good, theres been a few 1-2day delays to just a few out of dozens....such is the game! But all will have 100% success, so im not worried about a few not finalizing....enjoy ur thanksgiving..
Re: sharetheroad.....my associate who operates in another city used to handle PGP and stuff, before I took over the supply and everything else and started my crystal sales..now i spoke to you privately and mentioned me setting up communication on another safe, computer, with my own security measures setup when the time is right (this weekend).
I even offered to include extra product....free...to make up for waiting while I migrated to new PGP and setup my other comp
.....and if you really wanted it then, I said you could have TorPMd your addy to me or PrivacyBoxxed it to my functional and safe email.....
No1 else has had any problems ordering......Oh well im glad you enjoyed the more expensive product from the other seller!
V
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what is the longest somebody has had a package take to arrive on the eastcoast?
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is his product smoke-able? if so, how does it compare to the other vendors?
thanks for any input :))
i am trying to decide on which vendor to chose.
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I even offered to include extra product....free...to make up for waiting while I migrated to new PGP and setup my other comp
I don't remember you offering me anything extra but I would of thanked you and declined as I'd already ordered the g for like 10 bucks more. I'm not mad tho bro, you seemed pretty busy and I was in a rush. I was certain you'd have 0 problems selling your gear. I'll told you I'd hit you up again once you get PGP straightened out and if it's cool I still will sometime in the future.
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re: marsvolta12: longest recent shipment to the east has been 3-4 instead of hte usual 2......and that was during the summer to a few clients.
Check ur sr msgs ..
Re: ewe4eeuh......very smokeable =]
Re:sharetheroad..........I was just messin with you lol, ..but i was serious about the free stuff for waiting.....I want everyone to be satisfied.....I will hit u up very soon once it's all in order and im recovered from Turkey Day ;)
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@ewe4eeuh
If you can't smoke it, it isn't meth. :P You can't go wrong if you go with the Milk Man.
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thanks for the quick response and i will cross my fingers the next two days that it comes
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How long should I wait to get a quarter gram from Vortex delivered to me here in Scandanavia?
Its been exactly a week since it said it was shipped. Vortex isnt responding to my messages.
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got the product and WOW. weighed extra and honestly just fucking wow
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MARS! Glad to hear you got it....Was so busy this week with orders, trying to rush due to the Thanksgiving postal delays ....., hearing everyone's confirmations is definitely rewarding!
Re: Dissent,:
I replied twice.one of them glitched and turned my reply into the ever-famous "0" .....lol
You been shpped and to EU is usually 7-9 sometimes more/less depending on your province.
No worries, I got you covered =]
V
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Thanks, no worries Vortex!
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Hi guys, sitting on about 13 days no to AUS and starting to feel that sinking feeling... Should have been here by now yeah? Never doubting Vortex though, just customs can be a bitch!
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Took the plunge and ordered some earlier this week. I hope there will be no problem with customs (Canada).
I'll compare it to Dopeboy's product... this is definitely a lot cheaper.
I can't wait... hopefully it arrives next week.
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finally getting a chance to put a good update instead if just saying wow(even though that accurately describes my experience in one short word). from the time of shipping to here it took about 4 business days. the product got here priority and good packaging. now for the product..... HOLY SHIT. it came .25 overweight and BEAUTIFUL crystals with little to no powder. it smoked super clean and kept me up for a while. all around A+++. u now have a repeat customer. i have asked a couple of respected users in this subject on sr(not mentioning names because we dont need vendors angry with customers) to see if heisenburg or dopeboy's product is any better since it is more expensive. everyone said one of two things either 1. it is not better and vortex is number 1 or 2. that it is just as good but vortex is cheaper. so this is your man to go to and thank you vortex. u made my first transaction in regards to this product enjoyable. keep up the good work! you will hear from me in a week when my paycheck comes in
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I placed and order yesterday and it went in transit sometime this morning, which was nice. Most of my orders have taken at least a couple of days for processing. VM was very helpful and responded to my questions quickly even for a Sunday. Didn't even expect a response till today.
Hopefully I can post a full review this weekend. Only thing that worried me was lack of PGP, but I guess if you're careful about responding outside of SR, it would be hard to link off-site messages with transactions here. Also, he says he's getting PGP back up soon, which should ease some more paranoid users' minds.
You can't beat his prices though, and I'm making a point to try all three of the trusted Meth vendors on SR, you know, for science and shit. One more to go after VM...
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package still not arrived...but confident 8)
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placed my second ever order with vortexmilkman. initial communication was very good and he was fine with shipping to me even with my low buyer rating. after i placed my order it took him a little over 24 hours to process the order and to mark it in transit :) very positive experience so far. i will update this thread with how the rest of the process went and the quality of the product.
btw also want to point out his pgp keys are up and running for those that were hesitant to order with him in the past over this.
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still not arrived........
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@aeneas77: Are you international? 8 days seems like a while for domestic.
He msg'd me sometime last night saying that my order was running behind schedule, but that he'd make up for it. My order went in transit monday, so I guess he completes his processing before it's actually shipped. Also, it takes him a while to respond to messages, he's seems to do it like once or twice a day maybe.
I'm not worried, cause he's got a great rep and I'm not the type of person who NEEDS my shit as fast as possible. Also, my order is in escrow. I'll post real feedback when the transaction is complete, but this has been my experience so far.
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I had a great experience buying from Vortex. It took almost 3 weeks to get here in Sweden but ITS HERE and that's all I care about right now. He even sent a replacement for free when I was concerned it wasnt going to get here at all. He's a pro. Great communicator, great product. Thank you V!!!
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Hi. I'm a new customer (of meth), and I made my order 14 days ago.
And today, I still want to break down my empty mailbox (and suicide myself, by the way).
Anybody can comfort me ?
Oh, I'm in Western UE
Thanks dudes
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I've ordered a few times and it has always arrived domestically in less than a week and was good quality. There are no worries buying from vortexmilkman, one of the few vendors I will finalize early for.
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@stevenmacgonzo:
Be patient, it will come!! I know how you feel since I was majorly depressed when I was convinced the letter got lost in the mail. If its an international shipment, you have nothing to worry about, after 14 days. It will arrive!
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He's good for it.
My experience with international orders is usually between 2 and 3 weeks.
Always longer than you want.
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arrived today 17 days to EU...mabe cause of the package....has a stamp from the customs on it......but everything alright only says controlled by them......maybe reconsider internationally packaging.....but truly a trusted seller
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Hi,
So far I've placed and received one order successfully from vortex in Australia.
I believe it was about 9 business days, so quite reasonable.
From start to finish he has been extremely helpful in answering all my questions and concerns and always very fast to respond to messages.
If you want quality shard at a reasonable price, he's your man.
Only had one small issue with international packaging sizes, which he has now agreed to change, again just goes to show you he care's about his customer service and safety.
I also have a number of other orders with Vortex on the way, will update as they arrive...
Cheers
P
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Can anyone tell me what type of shipping is used for domestic orders? is it priority or first class?
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Huh, 20 days and still nothing.
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I'm a nooblet and just want to thank the old timers here that post there comments and experiences in regards to sellers and quality. I almost made my first transaction with SR Discount Pharmacy because he offered pay through M.P. and was local. Good thing I stalled. Until my $$$ comes in I will continue to educate myself in the forum. I'm tight with my money and prefer not learning the hard way. I'm new here but I'm old school (quality over quantity) Thanks again for the heads up. I'm considering Vortex. I hope I have found my little piece of heaven here.
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I've ordered from vortex several times and never had any trouble. Good quality, weight is always on or over, and shipping never took more than a week. I'm planning on ordering this weekend if my money comes through in time. He shipped priority every time I purchased.
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i have had one transaction with vman. the product arrived in nice sized chunks and shards. i had not seen product like this in years. it melted and smoked up like it should. very potent with high purity. i hope i can get more of the same batch before he sells out.
thanks again vman ;D
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I ordered off vortex for the first time yesterday. Hoping it gets to Aus before NYE... cant wait ;D
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just wanted to update re: my vortex order. communication with him was very good via sr. i would have liked a DCN because i rarely check my mail but he told me it would arrive monday and it did so no problem. overall from time to order to receive the product took 6 days. that works for me.
ok on to the product... big beautiful shards and absolutely no 'shake'. i am looking forward to taking a crack at it soon and compare it to heseinburg. i gotta say the fact that vortexmilkman only sent me shards is a plus so far. will update after i test the product out in the coming days.
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all i have to say is holy fucking shit. vortex got the package to me in a record 2 days to the east coast(quickest package i had domestic was 3 days). product was straight shards and pure as can be, AND he added an extra 100 mg. all in all the best vendor in this product on sr. YOU ROCK
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I'm still waiting on mine :-(
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It's a risk to take shipping large crystals ungrounded.
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His packaging is fine, though. Also wanted to add that each time I have received an order from the Milk Man, it has been Priority Mail.
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I have an order that Vortex says was shipped 21 days ago to .au.
What does everyone think?
Is it lost or just slow christmas mail?
I messaged him but no reply as yet.
Fingers crossed for my first order here.
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considering the fact you are in Australia you have to expect about half of your packages to get lost because of your difficult customs. that is the main reason why most vendors don't sell to Australia. if it doesn't come don't blame vortex because you have to remember your customs and his great reputation with package arrival. i have never lost a package from him(knock on wood) and can vouch for him as a great vendor
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Great Vendor with really good meth.............Its pricey but I would rather pay a lil more and get good shit newayz
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Yeah I'm not too worried just yet. Just thought I'd get some opinions from those who've gone before.
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Thanks for the reviews everyone!
Imei01....PM me with your SR name or order and I will assist you, and send some free product for you in the meantime, just so something shows up soon for you!
And on another note....
Had a bad expreience with a buyer....who ironically is a seller too.......not going to mention his name now......just threatened to "out" me on my thread and I quote.... "change his feedback" from a 5 to a lower score.....all because of his failed scam to get a refund........he received product 8 days ago....suddenly now he told me it was a bad batch and that he nearly went BLIND or some bullshi*...........(all my crystal is damn near flawless....no bad parts of a 'batch')
LMAO......
this clown wants an international refund from me because it was a "bad batch" that made him go temporarily BLIND......
Good luck Daredevil!
V
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How the HELL would a batch cause him to go blind temporarily?!? LMAO, seriously, unless he just smoked the whole damn sack up in one sitting, lol. It must BE some FIRE ASS SH*T! I want some!
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I mean I've smoked so much everything looked cloudy, I couldn't manage to position my Bic under the pippy and absolutely couldn't see outside in the dark (almost broke my leg once, lol) but BLIND, wow.
P.S. I'd love a sample too ;) lol.
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can't wait to go blind on Milkman's meth lol it should be here soon.
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just want to comment that once again i received a package in 2 days flat and as always the product was fucking superb. he communicated through the whole process and even threw in an extra 20mg. your the shit vortex and keep up the good work
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Mine should be here any day now. Hope it arrives by Saturday. Last time was Thanksgiving weekend. I'd go permanently blind if I shot the whole bag. ::)
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also to vortex fuck whoever is trying to jew you out of your hard earned money. you are one of the honest and trust worthy vendors on here(and with the recent plague of scammers it does mean alot) and also your product is absolutely impeccable. i think everyone on this forum can vouch for your delicious shards
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Woo-Hoo! Mine came just in time. It wasn't here by 3 so I figured it wasn't coming today. :( I went back down to check again at 5 and there it was. ;D Did a little test shot of a small crystal. So far so good. Thanks vortex and happy New Year!
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Yeah VM's shit is top notch, placed a small order the other day that I'm looking forward to, hell just may order more 2nite as well.
Really can't wait until the 2 day delivery times are back, this holiday season was an epic fail for the usps, more so than usual.
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also to vortex fuck whoever is trying to jew you out of your hard earned money. you are one of the honest and trust worthy vendors on here(and with the recent plague of scammers it does mean alot) and also your product is absolutely impeccable. i think everyone on this forum can vouch for your delicious shards
marsvolta, the next time you try to associate bad behavior with a minority group of people, make sure to pick on drug users, like meth addicts or speed freaks, because they're also stereotyped as filthy, disgusting criminals with poorer dental hygiene than even the Jews you seem to not like.
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You should have said gyp because nobody likes Gypsies. ;)
That's some bullshit vortex, but it goes with the territory here and on the street. There's always someone trying to take something they didn't earn. At least on the street you can retaliate. Here you just have to suck it up and keep trucking remembering that most of us aren't assholes and we do appreciate the service you provide.
Edit: Oh shit! I just went blind! I need a refund!
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My package finally arrived today. It is of great quality and was discretely packaged.
I would certainly recommend him to anyone looking for quality meth.
Anyone in Australia still waiting, don't lose hope!
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My package finally arrived today. It is of great quality and was discretely packaged.
I would certainly recommend him to anyone looking for quality meth.
Anyone in Australia still waiting, don't lose hope!
This is very good news thanks for posting. How long ago did you order?
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He's the last seller standing since heisenburg retired and Dopeboy moved on to other substances. I hope a couple good new vendors show up soon with some good shards.
I'm sure it's a lot of work for one seller to satisfy all the fiends here even if you have some help. Take care vortex and don't let quality or safety slip if you get overwhelmed. One mistake can bring the whole house of cards tumbling down.
I'm going to order a ball when my tax money comes to stock up.
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Hope orders are going out today. :)
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Hope orders are going out today. :)
amen to that !
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Im jonesin for a bubble.
Cleaned out my pipe Tweaked for about 2 hours+.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Hope orders are going out today. :)
Me too bud I am dying to try it.
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This is very good news thanks for posting. How long ago did you order?
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1 month exactly.
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1 month exactly.
Received my order also ;) From order it took 19 days which included two weekends, Xmas, and NYE... awesome turn around ;D
Had a slight burn today thoroughly enjoying it Thanks VMM!!!! :P
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Just got my order that I placed before NYE. It took awhile for domestic, but I kinda figured it would, 1 hour before resolution option and I'm leaving town for the week, so I was getting really anxious. Came through just in time and product is excellent as always. Thanks VMM, pro and legit seller all the way. (BTW, this my second order from him, but not my last ;))
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Vortex you are amazing. i had about 180 mg left of the last batch and it took me near 24 hours to do it all and with a bit of l tyrosine, b12, vitamin c, and l trytophan the comedown is non existent. i hope u stay on here since everybody else left with this product.
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After researching the Silk Road for six months, I finally took the plunge and placed my first order with Vortexmilkman because of his overwhelmingly positive feedback. I placed my order on Thursday, and it's still marked as "processing" as opposed to "in transit." Is this typical? As a new buyer, I'm a bit wary, but I've exchanged PMs with V. that have somewhat eased my fears. I decided to post on the forums and ask my fellow buyers--does it normally take awhile to ship an order? I'm excited to receive my shards--I'd love a full pipe for my birthday. :D
EDIT: V. just marked my order "in transit." I was worrying over nothing. :P
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after a few months of hunting locally (no luck) and a strange craving after 7 years i have gone ahead and purchased a lil sample of vortex's crystal. it looks like some of the gorgeous stuff i used to get from the gay club scene locally. i've been satisfying my (once a week or two) desire for stims with 4-fa but really wanted something different. everybody seems very happy with the quality and i can't wait to try it!
*destiny*
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bump.
Vortexmilkman is one of the best vendors on SR, I gotta give him props on his top notch customer service, professional delivery, and excellent product.
Thanks VMM!
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i think everyone on this forum can vouch for your delicious shards
Did somebody say delicious shards? ************ Runs around in circles and drops. :o
Back on Tuesday next week when the postal service returns to a sense of normality with their mail delivery and they better get me my fucking delicious shards which V, shipped out over 20 days ago - all the weekends, nuisance public holidays (even though my job still pays for those days) I would happily forfeit for the shards from the V MAN!
FUCK THE WORLD. HAPPY NYE FOR TOMORROW. ???
oi mate update please.
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VMM only has one listing for 3.5 grams of crystal. That's a lot of meth. Anyone know if he's going to have 1 gram listings anymore?
Thanks,
rusty
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You don't trust jabberwockylover? lol
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I just asked him this question tonight - like 30 minutes ago. He said he will be restocking soon. I haven't heard back when soon is, but its not soon enough ! haha. I kid. Vortex is the shit.
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I just asked him this question tonight - like 30 minutes ago. He said he will be restocking soon. I haven't heard back when soon is, but its not soon enough ! haha. I kid. Vortex is the shit.
Phew!
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Ive only done pure cocaine .... how does this compare to. Vortex's meth?
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Cocaine vs Vortex's meth...hmmm..... I've never really had great coke before, had some good stuff while in california, but other than that not much experience. However, I don't have that much experience with crystal either. Generally people say its like super coke - aka it is similar but much stronger. Personally I think that coke has a more intense rush right away, but the crystal has a drastically longer lasting effect, like 8 hours for a good sized bump, compared to possibly an hour with the best coke out there. It's also not the same feeling. I can't tell you why, but i'm sure it has to do with the chemical structure and how it affects your body. Coke for me always make me feel shitty within the better part of an hour. Crystal takes nearly 6 for me to feel like its wearing off. (with tiny tiny bumps, like making .5g last 10 days).
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Cocaine vs Vortex's meth
Got both tonight and probably smoked more meth.
:P
nomad bloodbath
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Just wanted to say, I've done large orders with vortex before and he has always been more than helpful, usually quick to reply to messages and has a high quality product at a reasonable price.
All in all, it has been a pleasure dealing with Vman and hopefully we will continue to do so for as long as possible :)
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my next order might have to be from the milkman. the reviews are too tempting.
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Highly recommended the Vman got to sample some this weekend and did not disappoint only took a small couple bumps and was up all night.I don't smoke it only snort but looks, taste and kicks like the pure quality meth shards I have seen and snorted to good effect while others smoke it. I think I would like smoking it too much. I put in another order already thinking he might run out but looks like stocked back up waiting patiently. Very happy and impressed with quality product and service.
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I won't detail packaging specifics, but yes, I have received 7g envelopes successfully from Vman.
The envelope itself feels relatively even (no, your not going to get a 7g order with just one or two 2 massive shards... but fuck that would be sweet!)
But it's not all smashed up into a fine powder either, you still get lots of decent sized and great looking crystals.
He was also very helpful with modifying his packaging method when requested for international shipment.
His packaging definitely works.
I guess the longer you doubt it, the longer you have to wait until you get to taste great crystal... :D
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anyone recently received an order from VMM? My past orders have been successful, but last order (domestic) has taken over a week and still waiting. Seems strange, I know the USPS has issues of late, but first class orders never take this long.....hmmm.....
any thoughts?
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i have never had a package take more then 5 days. if i were you i would politely request a dcn if he still has it
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Spoke with him yesterday about this and he said there was an issue with supply or something taking longer than expected. Promised I'd have it by the weekend at the latest, which I'm hoping is today :-)
Did receive 1g last saturday, shipping also took longer than usual, and back during the holidays I was waiting almost forever for an order, but it came. I've had good experiences with him, and heard great things so I have no reason to doubt him, even finalized early for this last one.
I'd say its probably just a rush of business since H left the scene thats causing these backups.
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A recent order was postmarked the same day he changed the transaction to ‘in transit’ but I don’t know how long it took to arrive. I can’t check the delivery address every day.
Product quality is very good. Cooks come and go, batches change, so you can’t predict what the next cycle will be like but if he keeps his supply close to this quality his customers should be happy.
I do wish he would upgrade the gauge or thickness of the outer mailer. Opinions differ according to the level of risk a buyer can tolerate. I will not reveal details but it is possible to buy mailers of the same size made of heavier material.
VMM: if you see this post but I haven’t finalized, the market site won’t open for me. In fact I went there first and only came here as a test to see if I can get to an onion site. I will keep trying to log on over there and finalize ASAP. Could be as long as 10 to 12 hours from the time of this post.
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I'm a little nervous, I'm still waiting for 1g he owes me and all his listings are suddenly gone. I hope he hasn't disappeared like the last guy I tried to buy meth from on SR.
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..disappeared like the last guy I tried to buy meth from on SR.
Well then, that narrows it down to every person who has ever sold meth on SR....
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Have good faith in Vortex, he's been a respected vendor here for quite some time. Instead of assuming the worst, I'd assume he's low on supply at the moment, so his listings are down until he gets enough to handle the demand, and that he's still going to honor all commitments. Hopefully this is the case and I hope your g shows up soon!
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His OG wax listing is still up. Idk, I was expecting mine today, but I'll give it till tomorrow, he said by the weekend. Not liking the finalizing early and that he said he didn't get a dcn.
I'm sure there are others waiting for alot more than 1g, can't say the doubt hasn't crossed my mind but I'll wait another day.
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..disappeared like the last guy I tried to buy meth from on SR.
Well then, that narrows it down to every person who has ever sold meth on SR....
It was SR Discount Pharmacy, if it matters.
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I'd say the issue is more one of demand than supply. With the unfortunate loss of Heisenburg (and dopeboy re:meth) and the only competitor basically being an unknown quantity, his sales had to have skyrocketed recently. I would hope that he's just taking some time to reup and plan how to safely deal with the increased volume.
Or maybe he took off with everybody's money. wtf do I know?
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I placed my order last Thursday; it was marked "in transit" on Sunday--although V.M.M. said it didn't actually ship until Monday. I e-mailed him on Tuesday to ask for a tracking number, which he said he couldn't provide since it was sent priority mail, but he added that it would arrive the following day. Well, it didn't arrive the following day, and I decided to chalk it up to the postal system. I became disheartened when it didn't arrive today either. I refuse to finalize until it's in my hands, and I have a very bad feeling that the package won't arrive :(. Should I be worried? This has been my first SR purchase, and it's been quite an ordeal thus far.
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Damm.....ALL you NEWBIES waiting for the Milkman to come through really need to take a serious CHILL PILL. This site has exploded to over 115,000 people and growing EVERY day. Imagine how many orders a LEGIT vendor with a product that some people really want gets? This isn't amazon...or ebay.....YOU CAN"T call customer service to bitch about where's my stuff. You can come on the forums and bitch....but I would say JUST WAIT. Don't keep pestering your vendor with more paranoid PM's asking where your stuff is. RELAX. You chose a LEGIT vendor....he has good feedback for a reason. Please just have some patience....this goes for more than just the posters in this thread waiting for meth. Somebody should start selling Chill Pills for all the people that seem to need them....jeez.
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I think Pharmville's got some chill pills for sale.
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Yeah vortex was my first back when I joined SR and it was a fantastic experience, I've used him several times since then and the only issues were shipping delays, it always came and he always answered me whenever I had a question. He still has the benefit of the doubt in my mind, and I'm hoping to see my 3.5g tomorrow.
So if your waiting for something small, or are still in escrow then I don't see a reason to be complaining yet.
An idea to curb demand for future orders if he stays with the business would be to eliminate the small orders, and or to limit who can place orders to previous customers, and accept new customers only from established buyers with 10+ or so orders under their belt.
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***********!!!!!!!!!!!!!Update!!!!!!!!!!!!!***********
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Status Report of Service (SRS)
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Hello to my loyal customers, friends and prospective clients.
Despite it being Friday, the 13th, it is not an unlucky day for us :)
1. First I would like to douse any feelings of mistrust or doubt that some may have in the last week.....let me state "ALL IS WELL".
2. Second, I would like to update the small amount of buyers who have pending/processing/delayed orders: "You will ALL be receiving your expected orders soon."
3. I have been receiving (to quote a low average)apprx 25-30 orders.each day, on top of backlogged orders form the holiday season I had to personally manage, and was managing supply just fine even with crazy amounts of orders just until this week.....a couple orders marked in transit and packaged , I incorrectly estimated the supply left, due to 2 personal exchangers holding about 800 btc of mine since new years.....I am beyond pissed..and had to reup and continue orders as smooth as I could with minimum delays.....thus some orders were delayed...and then i only managed to restock as of a few hours ago.so was out of stock for around 48h-55 hours....apologies.....I am back and still operating strong evne with 800 btc tied up........I AM HERE FOR YOU ALL! HAVE PATIENCE my delayed padawans!
4. to those with orders processing, im about to handle a few more backlgoged order,s and the new supply will be all used to package your orders and marked and shipped off for tomorrows ship out batch!
V
V
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***********!!!!!!!!!!!!!Update!!!!!!!!!!!!!***********
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Status Report of Service (SRS)
***********!!!!!!!!!!!!!••••••!!!!!!!!!!!!!***********
Hello to my loyal customers, friends and prospective clients.
Despite it being Friday, the 13th, it is not an unlucky day for us :)
1. First I would like to douse any feelings of mistrust or doubt that some may have in the last week.....let me state "ALL IS WELL".
2. Second, I would like to update the small amount of buyers who have pending/processing/delayed orders: "You will ALL be receiving your expected orders soon."
3. I have been receiving (to quote a low average)apprx 25-30 orders.each day, on top of backlogged orders form the holiday season I had to personally manage, and was managing supply just fine even with crazy amounts of orders just until this week.....a couple orders marked in transit and packaged , I incorrectly estimated the supply left, due to 2 personal exchangers holding about 800 btc of mine since new years.....I am beyond pissed..and had to reup and continue orders as smooth as I could with minimum delays.....thus some orders were delayed...and then i only managed to restock as of a few hours ago.so was out of stock for around 48h-55 hours....apologies.....I am back and still operating strong evne with 800 btc tied up........I AM HERE FOR YOU ALL! HAVE PATIENCE my delayed padawans!
4. to those with orders processing, im about to handle a few more backlgoged order,s and the new supply will be all used to package your orders and marked and shipped off for tomorrows ship out batch!
VMM - thanks for the update from all of us. Sometimes things don't go as planned. About all you can do is to keep people updated. Your consistent approach here on SR is awesome. Keep up the nice work. It's good to see things working so nicely.
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Good deal Vman figured you were crazy buzy with all these new fiends. Looking forward to the next inbound and then should be able to chill for a bit. Your Crystal is pure power from that last batch that would make a sleestak attack. Cant wait to try a fat line this weekend after just doing a few bumps it was charging good thanks for the service and will be patient 8)
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yea that man has got to be absolutely swaaaamped. neck deep in order swamp. :P i'm waiting on an itty bitty lil bit but definately in no hurry at all. really just wanted to try it out (been forever since i've done crystal and wanted to see if it's still a tweak i enjoy).
thanks vortex for the update. hopefully you'll still be rollin' when i (very likely) make a larger order later on.
*destiny*
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I have to say that it's pretty awesome anytime a vendor "checks in" to the forum with a status update. Thanks, V!
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it is good when vendors do this. but when your order has been sitting in pending for over a week with no word as to when things will ship.. i cancelled my order when he gets caught up maybe ill try again.. i know hes the only go to guy for zoom (word is still out on jabber) if vmm would just keep posted in forums he wouldnt have to reply to emails. hes a great vendor im not trying to put down in anyway..
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Excuse me, DigitalDong.....we both know you provided an unusual address that ships to a location I am not comfortable with for security reasons....I specifically said to provide me with a normal address and it will leave ASAP.
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Yeaaa Vortex is a Jr. Member on the forums now! :P
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VMM wasnt trying to speak ill of you in anyway. :) I never got that email from you. but suspected it. dont have a problem with your decision. was a lil noid about that myself. was just wanting communication. which if u say u mailed me i will believe you. just never got it. but SR has been having issues last few days ...
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Its all good, looking out for your safety too!
V
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You're quick to snitch and out me and give fake feedback, why don't you say on the feedback or here, that I REFUNDED your order.....what is your problem?
You got me to the point of extreme annoyance by stating you did not trust me several times, after being a repeat customer for months,....and not only that, you demand and question my methods sarcastically as if I owe you something.....if you bothered to check the forum you would see that your order was being processed due to the restock, and I asked kindly to finalize to help the flow of things .....if you didnt I would refund.....you went all disrespectful....in which I returned a disrespectful message...since you have some sort of sense of entitlement and act like a spoiled brat, it seemed the only way to get the message across.
Why would I risk the amt of crystal you ordered when I did not feel comfortable...especially your LAST ORDER..you claimed something was 'wrong' with it, and i didnt even hesitate to send you free .5g of product........you didnt mention that did you.....no you still gave me a 4 on 5 on that order and a 1 (yes ONE) out of 5 ont his order.as if you lost ANYTHING...I REFUNDED YOUR ORDER......WTF.
The real question is, Who needs people like you?
Peace
V
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That is fucked up I saw the feedback and was like you got a refund and you dis with the shitty 1 out of 5 Why? I'm new here but only had good experience so far with Vman and the product is exceptional. I thought shit feedback is for scammers who never send not respected sellers willing to negotiate as I have been around at least long enough to read about his rep. I just Hope he sticks around with so many impatient pricks we need a good source of pure Meth its all I'm really interested in these days other than DMT, maybe some LSD eventually, possibly some Xstcy too, lol. I try not to bug and be patient but I'm starting small time so not too vested till I get this down and get around more. People need to chill or go back to the street circus. Appreciate the updates V and don't sweat the punks we got your back.
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So don't order from him.....find someone else. Your flaming a vendor ranked 18 out of 254 with a 99.2% rating from 427 transactions. Good Luck.
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Real classy leaving a 1 rating there Rusty.....did you get scammed??? L A M E
and the "story" you are calling BS....well if you would have read the earlier posts you would see that VMM actually posted that "story" for all to read. You make it seem like he was telling you secret information to scam you or something???
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"Rusty" aka "packet"....wow....sitll not mentioning the free .5g you got for whatever BS excuse I actually fell for and shipped it out as due diligence? but quick to mention some random order that was in resolution..that you ....RECEIVED....?
And .....leaving a 1 rating for a refunded order that i was going to send with extra weight as a hookup for being a repeat customer only makes you look like a fool.
Yes...finalizing early helps because I feel uneasy about sending you that amount at the moment..i dont owe u an explanation of the financial flow.......regardless....finalizing on larger amounts is neccessary as a security precaution......whats to stop you from creating some fantasy tale fake complaint and then refusing to pay me or false-claiming you never got something etc......I HAVE TO TAKE MY PRECAUTIONS SIR.....whats so hard to understand?
the chain of events summarized:
I don't want to do the deal without finalizing.....you had a problem...i REFUNDED and cancelled the order......and then you leave a 1.
Also....You're Miss Cleo-worthy predictions are laughable......predicting.....almost HOPING I'm going to scam or turn Dark Side only brings an air of mistrust and a cloud of negativity in this SR community....this is NOT-needed....YOU-ARE NOT-needed.
I will NEVER turn scam, and will strive to be here as long as possible serving up the best crystal 24/7!
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So they left a 1 after you refunded them 100%? Thats dirty, but karma is a bitch and will come around and get them when least expected.
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I don't see a reason to be paranoid about this vendor. I'm gonna get a G from him as soon as my god-damn bitcoins come in. Thanks for keeping it real, milkman.
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Man...Vortexmilkman is the real MF'n deal! I can hardly believe it. I finalized early, being new to SR, and then waited...and waited.....but it was Christmas time and I know he was busy....after 6-7 business days I had given up. Then, on the 8th day, walla....he came through! During the time I was waiting, I actually found some good meth here locally, but once I tried The Milkman's shit, I realized what good was! Anyhow, just wanted to share my experience and pass on the word that this guy is the real deal!
And I feel like a real piece of shit now because on that 7th day, thinking it wasn't going to arrive, I amended my rating from a 5 to a 1. Then, once it came and I was very happy, I went back to change rating to 5 but realized that I had deleted my order history so I couldn't repair the harm done. Fuck. Very sorry Mr Milkman.
Vortexmilkman is a five star guy with five star shit. You won't be sorry, I promise!
DrDog7
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You're right VMM. It did come down to that I don't finalize early. Sorry about that. Just tell me what you want me to put your feedback at and I'll do it. I don't want to start a grudge match. Your last batch of meth to me was very good. I don't want to fight you. You do good work.
Sorry,
rusty
p.s. all my feedbacks for you are 5/5 now.
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hey Vortex, the crystal I recieved on jan1 was REALLY REALLY incredible stuff. Like super good shit.
the stuff I got on the 14th though could have been better. It feels more PNS than the first order I got. Might be different supplier? I hope you go get more from that first supplier then. That was some good dope.
OH and when you recently restocked - did you restock with more of the No.1 or the No.2? or an entirely different stock. cause I want to try that too.
OR is it all the same stock and I'm just a dumbass.
Btw I still have some of the first batch. Will do a sober test to make sure i'm not hallucinating about it's quality.
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I recieved an order the same day as you seirf, and I thought it was fire.
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Anybody ordered recently and received anything yet? I placed an order on the 9th & it's been marked 'in transit' since the 10th I think, but no sign of it yet...
I know the Milk Man's life is a busy one though, and that's definitely something I understand. I'm just wondering when I can expect it or if anyone else has received their order made around the same time. :P
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hey Vortex, the crystal I recieved on jan1 was REALLY REALLY incredible stuff. Like super good shit.
the stuff I got on the 14th though could have been better. It feels more PNS than the first order I got.
I just placed an order, will post when it arrives. But dudes, wtf is "PNS?"
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But dudes, wtf is "PNS?"
PNS stands for Peripheral Nervous System, which is a system of nerves located on the outside of the spinal cord & brain that is not protected by the blood-brain barrier or the bones of the spine and skull. It's purpose it to connect the Central Nervous System to your limbs & organs. I don't quite understand what seirfmuy means by "it feels more PNS", however.
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i ordered around the same time as you, priscilla. i was on in transit for a few days and contacted vortex and he said he sent it out that day and switched me to in transit. think he ran out during that time??
holiday weekend messin stuff up maybe? hoping it's here tomarrow. really excited my partner agreed to try it with me (she avoids the big C, H, and M but has done every type of speed so has no problem trying the M now).
anybody know if saturday mail has stopped yet?
*destiny*
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Thanks to Priscilla, we can all claim we're on an Edutainment site learning biology and the functions of the Blood-brain barrier!
:)
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Lol! The more you know! ;)
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Less high and more body load maybe. There could more unreacted ephedrine or pseudoephedrine left in some batches. I have noticed quality differences between batches, but it's always been good and sometimes great.
Tolerance is a bitch especially with stimulants. I only get high the first few hits then I'm just chasing it with meth and coke.
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Nothing like a month-long drought to reset some tolerances... I'm still crossing fingers for all of us.
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Wow you guys are all right! Nice answer Priscilla. :)
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woah woah woahh!! (dodges all the machinegun fire)
some info on me and my heart *you can skip this part*
I did years of ECA stacks (ephedrine+caffeine+ aspirin) Then the FDA put the banhammer on that because peeps were dying and the rest were getting heart disease.
then I was doing Pseudo +caffeine + aspirin. for years haha.
add to that a half a ton of cigarettes.
So yeah my heart is fucked and I'll probably need a pacemaker oneday...
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start reading here:
yes, tolerance - is a factor for getting high. You are all correct.
yes, second batch made me high.
yes, it is meth and it's good dope. 1st delivery and 2nd. They both fall into the "good dope" category.
yes, Vortexmilkman is awesome.
yes, I still have some from the 1st delivery.
so, moving onward. I was watching Gordon Ramsey on Top Chef and on one episode he was like, "is this dish made using fresh salmon, or frozen? because it tastes like it's been frozen." I was like damn! how can he tell??? because I can't tell the difference. Salmon tastes like salmon to me! Also, I'm not a gourmet chef.
When I'm using meth I'm looking for one thing: CNS (central nervous system e.g. EUPHORIA, getting high). I want the dope all around my eyeballs and my brain and my head to feel tingly cause that's when I know brain cells are getting damage. The more brain damaging power the better!
Yo that first order was all CNS. I was walking around like a zombie, counldnt workout if i wanted to. staring into a walls and shit after the first hit.
PNS is what makes your heart go wiggitty wiggity wiggity whack. This daddy mack will make ya, "jump jump". The mack daddy good meth should have the least amount of PNS feel to it. That's the difference between the mack daddy and the daddy mack.
Some people can't tell the difference between fresh salmon vs frozen salmon, mack daddy vs daddy mack, Mcdonalds fries at noon vs mcdonalds fries at 8pm, CNS vs PNS. etc etc.
I can tell if my PNS is going wild cause my heart's sensitive and I abuse the shit out of it :'(
ephedrine+ caffeine = little bit of CNS and FUCK TONS OF PNS. Heart attack city! you wanna do 1,000 pushups? ok go.
psuedo + caffeine = moderate PNS feel. I just use this combo to stay awake.
Adderall = mostly CNS. Rarely does my heart go crazy on this stuff. I have a prescription and how pharmaceutical grade amphetamines make me feel is how I judge the meth I get.
Heisenberg meth: pure PNS . All high blood pressure and heart going crazy. Some people gave rave reviews for having all those symptoms.
Dopeboy's meth: mostly CNS. Had no heart probs on his stuff.
lastly, I like to entertain once in awhile with a few buddies. I'll only share the best. The best weed, the best vodka, the best meth. My first delivery from Vortex, I couldn't wait to share that shit. It's the vintage I keep in the drawer when peeps come over. PURE CNS. Gourmet meth. Vortex did it once, I'm sure he can do it again.
and before I exit the bunker I'd like to say that I wasn't knocking Milkmans goods, I was merely suggesting that he get more of the first supplier. Just a little quip from a nobody with an addiction to stimulants and a bad heart. I'll quit someday....
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It'll be close to a month for me. :( New years until tax refund comes next week at least.
I definitely got high from heisenberg's, but only tried an early batch. I heard some of the later ones weren't as good.
Dopeboy's I agree was killer. Had it once, and hardly any crash or hangover after a 3 day binge.
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Omfg..
PNS is what makes your heart go wiggitty wiggity wiggity whack. This daddy mack will make ya, "jump jump". The mack daddy good meth should have the least amount of PNS feel to it. That's the difference between the mack daddy and the daddy mack.
I can't stop laughing! That's got to be the best way I've ever heard ANYTHING explained, ahahahah!
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Any guesses (or, better yet, estimates from Vortex) as to when an order placed today would ship?
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Any guesses (or, better yet, estimates from Vortex) as to when an order placed today would ship?
Ordered saturday. No news from him if it's shipped. So I have no clue. But I'm not worried, I'm sure he will come through.
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So is the PNS effect of heisenburgs because its pseudo based meth as opposed to the more likely p2p based meth of vortex and DB? So really we should be after p2p based meth if you want more CNS stimulation?
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And would it mean much less of a mental comedown after a weekend on heisenburgs meth compared to say vmm's? As more cns stimulation means more serotonin and dopamine release compared to the more pns body high not as much chemical release?
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OMFG that PNS and CNS essay was awesome!!! i agree with priscilla that was the best explanation ever.. and i totally get that. i used to mess with ephedrine too and have tried virtually every major stimulant and i explain the same thing (call it adrenaline vs. dopamine).
yea and i've tried meth that has swung wildly from the PNS to CNS side. very rarely get good CNS stuff!!!
no luck with mailman today. :'( hopefully later this week
*destiny*
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no luck with mailman today. :'( hopefully later this week
Same here. :(
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also to vortex fuck whoever is trying to jew you out of your hard earned money. you are one of the honest and trust worthy vendors on here(and with the recent plague of scammers it does mean alot) and also your product is absolutely impeccable. i think everyone on this forum can vouch for your delicious shards
marsvolta, the next time you try to associate bad behavior with a minority group of people, make sure to pick on drug users, like meth addicts or speed freaks, because they're also stereotyped as filthy, disgusting criminals with poorer dental hygiene than even the Jews you seem to not like.
Thank you...
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also to vortex fuck whoever is trying to jew you out of your hard earned money. you are one of the honest and trust worthy vendors on here(and with the recent plague of scammers it does mean alot) and also your also to vortex fuck whoever is trying to jew you out of your hard earned money. you are one of the honest and trust worthy vendors on here(and with the recent plague of scammers it does mean alot) and also your product is absolutely impeccable. i think everyone on this forum can vouch for your delicious shards
marsvolta, the next time you try to associate bad behavior with a minority group of people, make sure to pick on drug users, like meth addicts or speed freaks, because they're also stereotyped as filthy, disgusting criminals with poorer dental hygiene than even the Jews you seem to not like.
Thank you...
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? all i said was fuck whoever is trying to scam him, and if you are freaking out about me using the simple terminology of saying trying to jew someone out of money, then im sorry but calm the fuck down. it is a figure of speech much like if i were to call something gay. i have friends that are actually both gay and jewish and i love them to death. we always JOKE AROUND because we understand it is a joke. so please calm the fuck down, because u sound like those wanda sykes commercials about how you shouldn't call things gay. ITS A GODDAMN FIGURE OF SPEECH and you really have no right to label me a racist because of an idiom that is popular in american culture.
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so what is up with this argument you are trying to start on the forum about me hating jews? because i used the terminology of saying jew you out of money? dude it is a figure of speech and in no way shape of form verifies i dislike(much less hate jews). I have friends that are gay and jewish and none of them freak out when ever a term like jewed out of money is thrown around, or hey that is gay. they understand we dont associate a negative connotation with the word and don't use it as such. we just grew up with the idiom but stripped it of racist sentiment. the point is if you knew me you wouldn't make such a blatant assault on my character and accuse me of racism. i don't want any trouble i just want to tell you chill dude. i have no beef with any form of race or creed. either way peace and be safe
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I know he is getting 30+ orders per day but I know for a fact that isn't impossible to manage, at a minimum replying to the order and giving a time frame is easily done by one person. So I'm guessing there is something going on here.
When you don't reply to messages it makes people concerned. I'm not demanding instant shipping - but a simple reply to our messages is greatly appreciated. SR is about to let me cancel my order so I'm wondering if you are still active or not???
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So glad I didn't finalize early.
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So, it's been 1 week since it was marked 'in transit'.. Anybody else getting worried? Lol
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so if i Have my numbers right, the product is a week late and its been since Saturday that he marked his last product in shipment? i know vortex isn't always speedy with responding but this does seem out of the ordinary. longest it took for him to mark a product in transit was two days and to deliver was i think 4-5(the last two came in two days flat). Also it says on his profile that the last day he has been on was today... vortex if your out there give us a sign
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two new feedbacks on his SR profile are 1/5.
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Time to kill myself!
Lol :P
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i have had nothing but great experiences with vortex and trust that it is the same problem as before. he is the only legit meth dealer left and probably having trouble like before filling all orders. i just hope if that is the case in the future he could take down listings to not get everyone's hopes up.
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Yeah, Vortex has always been decent to deal with, but lacking in communication lately.
I'm also still waiting on 7g that was sent 23-24th December....
Have my fingers crossed it arrives...
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anyone ordered from europe? what's your experience? how long did you wait?
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still waiting on my order from late december. Vortex has been in touch but has changed the arrival date twice and still nothing.... my first time ever using SR so I went with someone who was supposedly reputable. I haven't given up hope yet, but I'm growing very skeptical.
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VMM PM'ed me on SR about an hour ago so he's around. I asked him if he was okay.
rusty
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I hope he doesn't mind me posting this (dunno why he would), but he sent me this response earlier:
Place an order now it leaves now!
All backlogs from new years till now has been handled
V
4 hours
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he also messaged me( and i also hope there is nothing wrong with acknowledging this), and he said that all orders that have been backlogged were shipped yesterday. he is busy as hell so maybe he didn't message everybody. Everybody have faith in vortex. most of us have had nothing but the best of experiences with him, so he is one of the few i give benefit of the doubt too. Keep up the great work dude and hope you get some helpers so you can keep this operation flowing consistently, and take some strain off your back.
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All the other great reviews of this guy do keep me hopefull, i have no plans on changing my 5/5 feedback just yet. A more honest response regarding delivery times/problems would be helpfull but it sounds like the quality will be worth the price of admission!
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Just letting everyone know my last order did in fact arrive today, so I don't think those stressing about delayed orders should worry too much, it's been a little slower in coming lately, but it is coming.
Once again, Vortex has come through with the goods.
Hats off to you and thank you once again.
P
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VMM is totally back. I don't think anyone has anything to worry about.
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So is the PNS effect of heisenburgs because its pseudo based meth as opposed to the more likely p2p based meth of vortex and DB? So really we should be after p2p based meth if you want more CNS stimulation?
And would it mean much less of a mental comedown after a weekend on heisenburgs meth compared to say vmm's? As more cns stimulation means more serotonin and dopamine release compared to the more pns body high not as much chemical release?
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So is the PNS effect of heisenburgs because its pseudo based meth as opposed to the more likely p2p based meth of vortex and DB? So really we should be after p2p based meth if you want more CNS stimulation?
And would it mean much less of a mental comedown after a weekend on heisenburgs meth compared to say vmm's? As more cns stimulation means more serotonin and dopamine release compared to the more pns body high not as much chemical release?
I remember an episode of breaking bad where Walter is talking to his students about how some molecules are chiral and have mirror opposites. The mirror opposite of the good meth(D-methamphetamine) is L-methamphetamine (vicks inhalers). P2P meth production creates both the good meth we're all used to and vicks.
P2P is dl-methamphetamine. It was yucky crank made by bikers gangs.
The way I remember D from L is "dick" and "limp"
you just want Dick-meth because you're Dealer's a Dick that Deals the Dopest Dick in Delaware. D-methamphetamine. If you smoked some D-meth, you'll know it right away because Dick Dale & the Del Tones will be playing Misirlou (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIU0RMV_II8) in your brain. That's the good stuff. Not Limp-meth
and P2P is both so it's Dicklimp-meth.
here's a link with cool pictures of both of the molecuties.
http://scienceblogs.com/moleculeoftheday/2006/10/lmethamphetamine_would_you_bel.php
so no, you don't want any p2p meth. You want meth produced from pseudo or ephed made in a superlab. I had meth made by the cartels back in '06. It was awesome!!! I went around reciting Ezekiel 25:17 and shooting people. It was pure D-meth.
BUT now in 2012, I'm hearing about cartels going back to p2p!!??!??! oh hell no, get that dicklimp-meth out of my fase.
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don't they end up using p2p in breaking bad and its still incredibly good? and also how do you explain more PNS meth compared to CNS meth? more ephedrine used in the synth to make more PNS meth or something (higher body load)
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breaking bad is a television show. i HIGHLY doubt they're making real meth on it or that what it presents can be considered "doctrine". while i applaud the shows authenticity and production value - I don't necessarily believe that everything brought to you by Hollywood can be accept as "the truth".
That being said, I don't know the chemistry behind the differences between the reactions but my thought would be that if in the end you react all the ephedrine you're going to get mostly n-methampthetamine, which is the same molecule no matter how you arrive at it whether it be through p2p or ephed.
now, as far as precursors that make it into the "final" product that are not completely reacted, that's a totally different story.
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I ordered and never received product. Sent message though, so hopefully we can work something out.
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.5g that I ordered on Tues has finally changed to "in transit"... Thank fucking god! I expect the 1g that I ordered the same day to ship as well. my nose is twitching in anticipation...
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yeah, said my order was shipped days ago but still nothing received here. VMM is not ignoring me though. but a bummer.
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Despite his message saying "Place an order now it leaves now," mine is still "processing." Trying to cancel now that Heisenburg is apparently back. Fucking frustrating.
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breaking bad is a television show. i HIGHLY doubt they're making real meth on it or that what it presents can be considered "doctrine". while i applaud the shows authenticity and production value - I don't necessarily believe that everything brought to you by Hollywood can be accept as "the truth".
That being said, I don't know the chemistry behind the differences between the reactions but my thought would be that if in the end you react all the ephedrine you're going to get mostly n-methampthetamine, which is the same molecule no matter how you arrive at it whether it be through p2p or ephed.
now, as far as precursors that make it into the "final" product that are not completely reacted, that's a totally different story.
you have no idea wha tyou are talking about.. a quick google search will show you that p2p meth is racemic roughly 1/2 d and 1/2 L meth....
and as far as the pns blabber its probably unreduced ephedrine /iodephedrine
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breaking bad is a television show. i HIGHLY doubt they're making real meth on it or that what it presents can be considered "doctrine". while i applaud the shows authenticity and production value - I don't necessarily believe that everything brought to you by Hollywood can be accept as "the truth".
That being said, I don't know the chemistry behind the differences between the reactions but my thought would be that if in the end you react all the ephedrine you're going to get mostly n-methampthetamine, which is the same molecule no matter how you arrive at it whether it be through p2p or ephed.
now, as far as precursors that make it into the "final" product that are not completely reacted, that's a totally different story.
Authenticity? Really? Look at episode 1, and it's fiction from the get-go. I fucking GUARANTEE that if you're standing in the middle of the desert, in your underwear, and some firetrucks happen to be way out there in the middle of the desert....guess who follows firemen? Cops. Every time. So, if you're in the middle of the desert, standing next to a wrecked RV, in your underwear, with a pistol...say hello to Bubba.
Nothing authentic about Breaking Bad. Sorry.
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Sooo, it's almost been 2 weeks since my order was marked "in transit" and the contents of my mailbox continue to disappoint me. I'm fucked anyway, because my dumb ass finalized early for a vendor that I've never had any problems with, but I'd still love to know what the fuck is the deal? Pardon my french.
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are u domestic or international priscillamarie90? if you are domestic then i will sadly say that your package probably isn't coming. i have finalized early once with vortex, but with the recent incidents of people finalizing early, and not receiving their product. I will not take this risk anymore.
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Yeah, I'm domestic. All my past orders with VMM have arrived in 2, 3 days max. I'm not really waiting on my order to come now, I'm waiting on an explaination..
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have u been able to talk to him through personal pm? has he offered any explanation or is he just M.I.A?
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everyone needs to stop ordering from this ....guy until one of us receives some product.
his last god damn 5 pages of feedback are 'finalised early'
WTF is dopeboy when you want some QUALITY fucking service?
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I hope everything's ok. I've ordered from VMM several times and finalized early once and always got my order within a week. Maybe his supply dried up or he took more orders than he could fill after all the other sellers left. Come back VMM wherever you are and let us know what's up.
Heisenburg might be back and there are a couple new sellers that look shady, but are worth a shot as long as it's done in escrow.
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He was obviously lying when he told me that all backlogs were cleared and my order would ship immediately.
It's still processing, and I have a feeling he'll mark it shipped right before I'm able to cancel. But why? Just to tie my money up in escrow until it's resolved? Just to be a dick? Dunno, but I'm pretty pissed about it.
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Heh-after telling me that my order "is out-first class, " he then gets pissy and says he's canceling it instead (which is what I wanted anyway).
My question: how did he cancel it if it was already "out"? My answer: vortex is full of shit these days.
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Heh-after telling me that my order "is out-first class, " he then gets pissy and says he's canceling it instead (which is what I wanted anyway).
My question: how did he cancel it if it was already "out"? My answer: vortex is full of shit these days.
lol. maybe he just got angry and was 'f this guy' and you'll still be getting a package in a few days...
probably won't be able to order from him again though, lol. doesn't sound like you would anyhow.
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Yeah, I'm domestic. All my past orders with VMM have arrived in 2, 3 days max. I'm not really waiting on my order to come now, I'm waiting on an explaination..
hey PriscillaMarie90,
if it's any consolation i am in exactly the same position as you. Ordered more than 2 weeks ago, finalized early as i've not had a problem with vman before. it was marked in transit 1.5 weeks ago, got a message from him a few days ago saying i should have gotten the product ( i asked for a DCN but never got one but he was nice enough to let me know when to check the mailbox )... but i haven't received anything. i am domestic and a package has never taken more than 2-3 days to get here. I pm'd him yesterday and i hope we will be able to resolve this soon...
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oh ok so mine says it shipped on the 15th which means the post office couldn't actually do anything with it until the 17th so i guess i shouldn't be worried yet (domestic though..)
My question: how did he cancel it if it was already "out"? My answer: vortex is full of shit these days.
well, to give him the benefit of the doubt he could have meant that it was ready to ship but hadn't actually shipped it yet because of the time of day he packed it or whatever etc? i'm relatively new here but isn't it not uncommon to mark a transaction as in transit when it's ready to ship but not actually shipped? could it maybe have been an honest miscommunication?
but yeah since we don't seem to be getting any good clear communication i'm glad i didn't finalize my small order early to cut him some slack like i was thinking of doing last week (note: i haven't communicated with him personally quite yet, i'm just going off of this thread's posts)
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I have wonderful news! My order came today! It was sent on the 20th and he sent it Express mail. I'm relieved, and very pleased. Don't give up on the Milk Man just yet!
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oh nice!
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Can i ask a real dumb question hehe
1st ill state i hate smoking anything of any kind, that said can you snort (insufflate) meth or not? Maybe ingest it?
I wanna try some at some point just wont if the only way is smokin it hehe
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WOW, well its time to update the masses again:
First of all..Priscilla, i understand your order was delayed....thats my fault...had a restocking issue last week and could not ship for a couple DAYS....
I spent my own money to send you out overnite friday but i see it hasnt reached yet.....
I sent you msgs, please reply...my goal is to ensure everyone's satisfaction!
I have such a large influx of orders and messages, some are going to get delayed and delayed replies, so I do apologise my friends.
I have other priorities, and I do NOT see a contract here on SR that states my life is to serve you all 24/7 and any delays warrants complaints, threats, refunds, fake feedback and 1s on my review...
I DO NOT need to be here if this is the case..... this community is filling with WHINY BIT*HES, and SOME of you guys do NOT respect the vendors, when you feel like you're being "WRONGED".
Wow, glad to see how quick your customers start to turn on you.
WTF do you guys not understand about delays...i am not scamming anyone....
Harpua....I dont give a flying shit what you have to say now..your order is CANCELLED.....move on with life.
Starting to get extremely irritate with SR and everyone LEAVING 1s now because of my delays, s if i said im running away with all your money......?????
I am starting to feel my service is starting to be treated like I'm slave or it's YOUR RIGHT to demand shit....I never lied.....
Harpua I said your order is being SENT FIRST CLASS AND PACKAGED.....it never was confirmed in transit you fucking LIAR.......I CANCELLED IT 14 hours before it turned into 'late'.........
I get a 1, from some pissy fucking client who complained about my "wax" and another guy who received late lollipops and i get 1s.......awesome.......really awesome....
This is the reward I get for trying my HARDEST......i DO HAVE A LIFE also friends.....I am very very very DISAPPOINTED in you for doubting me......
Alot of the reasons for shipping delays was due to there being a maximum amt of mail daily we move.... i am shipping daily now...and i must manage the risk/methods etc.I do have a method....and am managing the crazy amount of orders as best I can.....do you guys really think I WANT YOU TO RECEIVE DELAYED ORDERS?
Marsvolta.....come on bro, you've been down with me for a while, I never asked you to finalize your recent order either, and you will receive..... latest wednesday.
....guys YOU WILL ALL RECEIVE....i feel your pain in some of you guys waiting and some mixups.but im here for you, never scamming, never running, asweting around 73 unread msgs......and shipping all pending orders today.....
I am doing too much.risking my life....for THIS horrible feedback lately?
You are all my clients & friends and I will never forsake this community.
V
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see, i figured it was an honest misunderstanding :)
after a good clear communication like that i'll go ahead and finalize early
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i'm going to have to agree with VMM on this one - as someone who does a lot of online trading (legitimate shit) it's not easy keeping track of orders, private messages, family, friends, job, etc.
I can only imagine how much it'd suck to have fiends all on my nuts for their drugs. I mean, yea, delays suck - but leaving a 1 for a delay is unfuckingcalledfor... drop the guy a 4 for not being on top of his shit - or a 5 and call him out on it in the comment.
1's are for straight up scams, fake drugs, cement bricks in the mail and a lack of refund for any of the above 3 problems.
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Harpua....I dont give a flying shit what you have to say now..your order is CANCELLED.....move on with life.
Harpua I said your order is being SENT FIRST CLASS AND PACKAGED.....it never was confirmed in transit you fucking LIAR.......I CANCELLED IT 14 hours before it turned into 'late'.........
Don't fucking call me a liar.
Here's the direct quote from your PM:
WTF, dude I am fucking flooded with orders, and yours is out, first class......what else can I do?
And this is after you told me in an earlier PM Place an order now it leaves now!
I'm happy to see that a few people are receiving their orders now, but if anyone is a liar it's clearly you, not me.
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Don't let a few squeaky wheels get you down, Vortex. Folks, this man works really hard. I've been around SR for a while, haven't always been on the best terms with VMM, but the way he has been dealing in the last few months has been nothing but impeccable.
I have noticed that his packages are arriving a few days later than they used to (no more 2-3 days), but they do arrive and the quality has not suffered. I would give him an extra week before checking in. So far he had always made things right in the end, even when there was a screwup from his shipping team.
Use the escrow, trust it, be patient, and let's not rush to judgment.
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OMG....yes harpua....im actually still staring at the fucking package with stamps on it.......WHY would you think it was sent when i have JUST done the shipments for today an hour ago?
I said that reply to you saying "its out" meaning its out today as I was going to ship you out...WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT WHEN I NEVER MARKED YOU IN TRANSIT...
IF I HAD MARKED YOU IN TRNSIT-THEN PROMISED YOU THAT...i understand.......but i cancelled your order before hitting even transit.....
miscommunication....i dont have time for this.
I dont have any problems with you, but i cancelled you cuz i dont want to hold ur BTC and keep you angered.
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Nor do I have a problem with you; you've generally been one of the best vendors on here. But I've said that about a couple people who then vanished with people's money, so I don't know who to trust. ("No one" is the obvious answer to that.)
What pissed me off the most was the fact that you told me an order would be shipped immediately and it wasn't. That, combined with poor communication and the fact that others had been waiting for weeks raised red flags, which is why I asked you to cancel the order. Thanks for doing so, and sorry for any miscommunication or overreaction on my part.
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Hug it out Bitches. :-)
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It's hugged out, imo.
So about that addressed, stamped package, vortex... ;)
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Thanks for the update VMM. I'm glad one of my orders shipped out and I did cancel the other one, but just needed to hedge my bets. we are babies sometimes, but I blame that on amazon... :P
Anyway, no hard feelings I hope and here's to more orders and money to be made. 0_o
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Can i ask a real dumb question hehe
1st ill state i hate smoking anything of any kind, that said can you snort (insufflate) meth or not? Maybe ingest it?
I wanna try some at some point just wont if the only way is smokin it hehe
Snorting is my preferred route. Smoking it seems to take a certain touch and talent that I don't possess anyway. Just note that you need to start VERY small and see how it works for you. Don't set out rails of it like its coke. This is something very different, start small you can always do some more later. Seriously though, start small.
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Just so everyone knows my current feelings on the situation and doesn't judge vortex too harshly, I just sent him this pm:
Sorry man
« Sent to: vortexmilkman on: Today at 11:39 PM »
I got worried, which caused me to interpret things in the most negative way, and just generally overreacted. Sorry.
And no, that wasn't just a transparent attempt to get back into his good graces.
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And ... what do you know, I got my package today! The milk man delivers again. Just be patient, folks, it's coming.
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This is something very different, start small you can always do some more later. Seriously though, start small.
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agreed... I used to do meth really heavy back 20+ years ago and just took it up again a few months ago... I laid out a long line (the size I used to do) of some nice stuff and took a big sniff and about blew a gasket. powerful shit... more than I needed by about 20x's.
it's better to do a smaller amount and see how it goes than a larger amount and end up in the ER. My problem is that I see an amount, think it;s too small and add "just a little bit" more and it ends up being too much. but fuck... the feeling is incredible. Now... if I could get my shit delivered...
good luck.
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Now where's that Heisenburg thread so I can go bitch at him for not shipping anything yet... ;)
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Glad to see you are back Vortex and please don't leave. There isn't much left to the meth scene on SR without you. You were the first one here when i started months ago and you have been the most consistent. I'm glad you came here and showed face since a lot of vendors don't do that. Either way i'm glad everything is in running order and i really hope you stay on. You are the shit and a great vendor and people have to understand you are juggling all the meth orders since everyone else isn't around. goodluck and be safe
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Marsvolta.....come on bro, you've been down with me for a while, I never asked you to finalize your recent order either, and you will receive..... latest wednesday.
i never said that u asked me to finalize with my current order V. i simply was saying that i have done it before(everything went splendid and as always was overweight), but that with the recent trend of things going awry on the forum i would refrain from doing so in the future. Either way i'm glad that it was nothing more then a supply and demand problem as i suspected. Please stay on dude we need you
P.S. whoever left vortex a 1 just because a product came late should really understand the simple concept of this website. You are receiving the purest form of illegal drugs in the mail, that you would usually never come in contact with otherwise. The biggest concerns should be purity, and how stealthy the packaging is. If there is a delay, but the other two categories are superb you should send the vendor a pm and talk it out instead of fuck over his rating. Purity and stealth are by far the most important and we have to cut vendors slack because they have lives too. some have families and jobs and they can't live on SR. so, yeah whoever gave him a 1. take the sand out of your vagina and raise the credit where credit is due.
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Now where's that Heisenburg thread so I can go bitch at him for not shipping anything yet... ;)
you need to chill harpua and not ruin the reputation of sr buyers. please get your story straight before you start blasting a seller on this public forum. as with bad sellers, you've become a bad buyer in my eyes and i no longer will give your posts any weight. sorry dude but you deserve it.
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How've I ruined anyone's reputation? In my 2+ months and 30+ orders here I have given exactly one rating of 1/5, and that was only after I was obviously scammed (SR Pharmacy).
All I ask is that vendors are forthright and honest. And anyone with an IQ higher than that of a particularly stupid rock saw the Heisenburg comment for what it was--a joke.
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In fact, if you look back through this thread I was defending Vortex until the lack of communication made it look like the doubters might be right.
So fuck off.
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In fact, if you look back through this thread I was defending Vortex until the lack of communication made it look like the doubters might be right.
So fuck off.
Hence the emoticon... ;) right? 0_o
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I placed an order on the 5th, getting pretty antsy about it not being here yet, however I do believe it will since Ive gotten orders from him before, only difference being they were here in record time. Waiting sucks but as a few guys have pointed out, this aint no drive thru, but it is a priveledge ;)
:DAnyone have any reviews on VM's current shipped batch ;p- The one I hope arrives manana?
@ Marsvolta is your avatar Cobain or Nickelback dude?
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The product I got is very good, it's not cut very much at all. I can't provide an entirely accurate opinion because I smoked some meth this morning that I had gotten locally, but after getting high I left home for about 5 - 6 hours before returning home with the package I received from VMM.
It arrived in big clear shards and smokes perfectly, as always. The high feels really clean to me, if you know what I mean. The meth I get locally sometimes leaves me feeling high, but kind of sick/unhealthy feeling? While the Milk Man's meth makes me feel alert and efficient. I don't know how to explain it really, but it's a good thing.. ;)
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In fact, if you look back through this thread I was defending Vortex until the lack of communication made it look like the doubters might be right.
So fuck off.
i would rather not get into this with you as you're hot tempered and a little delusional judging from this reply but i am taking into account other threads you've posted in and not just this particular instance. please do not reply to this, pm me if u want to rant more.
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I placed an order on the 5th, getting pretty antsy about it not being here yet, however I do believe it will since Ive gotten orders from him before, only difference being they were here in record time. Waiting sucks but as a few guys have pointed out, this aint no drive thru, but it is a priveledge ;)
:DAnyone have any reviews on VM's current shipped batch ;p- The one I hope arrives manana?
@ Marsvolta is your avatar Cobain or Nickelback dude?
LMAO it is kurt cobain.... i fucking hate nickelback, but i can see where you might mix that up with the photo. pretty comical mix-up i must say though.
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what? is the Milkman back in action?? this is a good sign! only a few more days until my account is unlocked...
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In fact, if you look back through this thread I was defending Vortex until the lack of communication made it look like the doubters might be right.
So fuck off.
i would rather not get into this with you as you're hot tempered and a little delusional judging from this reply but i am taking into account other threads you've posted in and not just this particular instance. please do not reply to this, pm me if u want to rant more.
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i just finalized in good faith.. i'm at 13 days tho but i see alot of people got delayed past that.
i really want to keep my perfect buyer stats.. hope i did the right thing crossing my fingers.
*destiny*
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Placed my order back in late December and was quite worried, then my package arrived today as well!!! Weight is honest and can't wait to try it. Despite the delay VMM was always prompt in his responses and never rude to me. I will definitely do business again in the future with him as the product actually arriving is what really counts in my book. P.S. I ordered 1g and plan on sniffing but have never tried meth before, how much should i start with?
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Mars, you've been granted overnite !
Thanks everyone , all orders are processed..tonite im filling another 30 new ones and a dozen 'local'/non sr/net scene flips, thatll net in a huge restock.... = more listings for you all!
This is only going to get better!
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Guess who feels stupid now?
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This is only going to get better!
looking forward to it! Thanks.
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thanks for messaging me vortex. i appreciate the communication and look forward to it!
*destiny*
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first time user, just received my package. plan on snorting, how much would you all reccomend i start with? (purchased 1g)
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first time user, just received my package. plan on snorting, how much would you all reccomend i start with? (purchased 1g)
Start small, very VERY small. Dosage varies according to gender, metabolism, height and weight, but when I first started using (I'm female, I weighed around 115lbs. and I was 5'7") I would snort a teeny tiny line about as long as my thumbnail and I was good for the entire day. Meth from the Milk Man is real shit too, so be very careful. When you use meth, it's always better to start out very small because you can always do more. You'll know once you have done enough, you'll be ready to clean your house and walk your dog, you won't even want to sit there and lay out another line.
Good luck and have fun sweetie. ;D
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Thanks Priscilla!!
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anyone as ever ordered from europe? how long to receive the package?
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first time user, just received my package. plan on snorting, how much would you all reccomend i start with? (purchased 1g)
That g should last you a good while - my first g lasted me weeks while still doing reasonably sized doses almost daily. TINY, thin lines to start. Seriously, I'm talking quarter inch to start with. It's going to look ridiculously small, but especially if you're going solo for the first time, baby steps will be well rewarded. Set aside 30 min and enjoy the process. Do them about 5 min apart or so. Don't be a greedy fiend! You've got a whole g and all the time you want for it. Know that however much you do you will probably be feeling it for 6-10 hours.
Have something to do ready. House project, computer task, car detailing, something, otherwise your meth brain is going to suggest something and who knows what that will be, like a hyper ambien walrus ("let's shave all our hair and call all of our ex's").
Also, when you order another g (and yes, you will be ordering again) start the quarter inch process over again to be safe.
Lastly, have something acidic on hand to drink (orange or cranberry juice). Meth is metabolized from your system faster because of the acid level. If you're too 'up' or it's lasting too long this might help some, but not like it's an antidote or something.
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@ PriscillaMarie90 thanks for the review. sounds about the same as last time. It was a really clean high..
although i wonder if the difference between his meth and local varieties can be amounted to being coupled with Jack daniels , weed etc... all the drugs ive done up till now from silkroad have always been done solo. Does anyone else play it this way?
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Benzos are a pretty good antidote if you need to get to sleep or take the edge off.
I did a line almost as big as my pinky my first line back. I was going for at least 12 hours.
I was up 24 hours after the last line of dopeboy's. I killed 500 mg in 2 days snorted. I felt fine after a night of sleep and hardly had any hangover.
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agreeing with priscilla and torn, start very low. a relatively cheap milligram scale is totally worth it and will definitely help you keep to your limits imho
my first time with meth was at a "common" pre-rushing dose according to erowid and i got some rushing to the point of mild difficulty enunciating, and never used that much at once again (this is from a long time adderall/dexedrine user)
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first time user, just received my package. plan on snorting, how much would you all reccomend i start with? (purchased 1g)
otherwise your meth brain is going to suggest something and who knows what that will be, like a hyper ambien walrus ("let's shave all our hair and call all of our ex's").
LMFAO ;D ;D ;D
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just got my stuff, two bumps and hot fucking damn... good to go. good shit.
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just got my stuff, two bumps and hot fucking damn... good to go. good shit.
Whereas I'm going on day 14 of Vortexmilkman's mail-order rehab program.
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sorry dude, but it'll be worth the wait. no doubt.
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it is always well worth the wait. we all have to remember vortex is by himself. Heisenburg came by for a day or two and sold out, so vortex has to meet all of SR's meth needs. im sure once somebody else becomes a trusted dealer things will go back to the smooth 2 days transactions from before.
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To all who provided guidance,
thank you all very much for taking the time to warn me about how small I should go. I cut a thin thin line and did maybe an 1/8th of an inch to start, so well see with that. It's pretty incredible to find a community of drug users that actually provide sound advice (as sound as any advice on using drugs can be) and take the time to educate a newbie. I spent plenty of time around addicts in the street and no one ever gave me the time of day unless I had the money for their next hit. thanks again everyone, ill prolly post another 200 times tonight based on what you all are telling me.
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Whereas I'm going on day 14 of Vortexmilkman's mail-order rehab program.
For me 17 days since order, 13 days since marked in transit. No biggie though, hope it arrives soon :P. Leaving for Holland on Saturday, so hoping to have some fun before then.
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oh yeah, by the way. When I had grown fairly sure my delivery with VMM wasn't going to make it I decided to order .25g 'sampler' from vroomvroom, has NEW SELLER listed in the title. Because of his new status he didn't require me to finalize early (only my second order ever) and the customer service has been awesome. Really fast polite responses to my never ending messages. I will let you all know how it pans out, if i get anything and how it compares to VMMs.
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another SR newbie as well, my first time here on the forums. I just placed an order with vroomvroom, had to finalize early though, will let you know
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I've been waiting since before Christmas for a Vortex order. Is he still sending orders out or should I write it off?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqTKOq8DmWU
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fucking classic db
aphextwin ftmfw
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It'll be 20 days tommorow since my order was placed. No producto!
I gave it 3 time extensions in all.... but the last 2 were not even confirmed, which has given me cause for worry. SR resolutions has given it another day so we'll see if the milkman can deliver my milk..... in the morning
very well timed vid db ... haha
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I just bought a G from him yesterday. I'll update on the quality/weight when I get it, which I'm sure I will. My first SR order came in only four days, that being from Tweetb. Very impressive. Seeing as the MilkMan is checking in with people, I have faith that he'll come through and I can post nice things about him. :)
As to the question of how much to do, ALWAYS melt some to see if it turns black, green, or brown. You need to watch a video or have a friend teach you how to melt it, but once you know then you can check for purity. It should look like melted quartz crystal in the pipe if you melt it right and it's good. If it's good and you don't do it all the time (been 2 years for me), then take it very slow so you don't freakout. If it's shit (turns green, black, etc) then it's either not worth doing or very weak, which of the two it is you'll only know from doing a small line and waiting until it kicks in. The high from snorting takes about 5-20 min to fully set in and lines are additive, meaning, if you do one per hour you'll keep getting more and more fucked up since the high lasts for several hours. Remember to eat and drink water too. You have to force yourself to do that. And don't go over 36 hours--it's pointless. You stop really getting high around 36-40 hours because your dopamine-pumps start running out/shutting down. Anyway, good luck and have fun!
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Plenty of good advice in the thread.
I just wish VM would've posted my 8ball 2 days ago when I ordered :/
Mail order rehab program has commenced
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Placed my first order on SR from Aust with Vortex.
Certainly has been roller-coaster, when I placed an order this forum said he was a very reliable.
Then suddenly he is a scammer.
And now he is everyones friend again.
Perhaps a bit more patience should be shown, particularly for highly rated vendors. They are offering a great service and because of the nature of the service supply chains cannot be guaranteed.
Looking forward to sampling his product
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Certainly has been roller-coaster, when I placed an order this forum said he was a very reliable.
Then suddenly he is a scammer.
And now he is everyones friend again.
lol. exactly. buyers need to chill the hell out on sr. bunch of fiends :)
btw great advice on meth use. only thing i will add is that benzos are your friend. order some and use them if you start amping too hard or start seeing/hearing shit but don't want to. once you take one and chill a bit go down and eat some complex carbs/protein, drink lots of fluids, and take some calcium. You will find it hard to eat but force yourself to. if u still can't sleep after this take an ambien and that always delivers the knockout punch.
educate yourself. here is a great web site with stories and information about meth from the gay communities in san fran.
http://www.tweaker.org/body/index.html
btw finally recieved my order from vman today. i am a happy camper. i plan on not using until i receive my heisenburg gram to compare and contrast. reviews to come ... for science.
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I have a hard time understanding why people are so quick to jump off the bandwagon if things don't seem to be going right..... or delayed. Do we all really know that patience is a virtue and that not having it just makes you look like dweebs. Have some. Time creates security and everyone on this site needs security. Whether you are a buyer or a seller, it is paramount that we all adhere to the safe practice that sellers use to get us our products. So just relax and let them do their job and likely you will not have any complaints or worse..... look like a knucklehead.
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Thanks everyone , all orders are processed..tonite im filling another 30 new ones and a dozen 'local'/non sr/net scene flips, thatll net in a huge restock.... = more listings for you all!
This is only going to get better!
vortexmilkman,
I just finalized early and left positive feedback but I'm wondering about the use of escrow for future orders. This is my first order from you but my buyer statistics are as follows:
Total transactions: 14
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 3 months
Reading the forums makes me think escrow is a good thing. What say you?
My username on the forums is different from SR. I thought I was being security-savvy. Of course, if I'm ever lucky enough to become a seller, I'll have to register a seller account for "rocketdog".
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After reading all of your reviews and ensuring trust in me to finalize early, I have. Being a new buyer, it seems it is the buyers risk. And with such a trusted vendor, I am fine with that. VMM, I am glad there are vendors like you on here to ensure our security and satisfaction. I really look forward to the highest of quality products. Thanks
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I have a hard time understanding why people are so quick to jump off the bandwagon if things don't seem to be going right..... or delayed. Do we all really know that patience is a virtue and that not having it just makes you look like dweebs. Have some. Time creates security and everyone on this site needs security. Whether you are a buyer or a seller, it is paramount that we all adhere to the safe practice that sellers use to get us our products. So just relax and let them do their job and likely you will not have any complaints or worse..... look like a knucklehead.
perfectly said myconman
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@ rocketdog
Basically, ya escrow is there for a good reason. I always use it. The only two scams I experienced were of transactions where i said fuck it, and finalized early. Gives you some leverage should something go wrong.
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my order came today! everything top notch, i'm glad i decided to finalize (a little) early, milkman's now on my go-to list.
well worth the relatively short delay (took under two weeks after placing it on a domestic order, and there was an MLK day and shit)
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I have a hard time understanding why people are so quick to jump off the bandwagon if things don't seem to be going right..... or delayed. Do we all really know that patience is a virtue and that not having it just makes you look like dweebs. Have some. Time creates security and everyone on this site needs security. Whether you are a buyer or a seller, it is paramount that we all adhere to the safe practice that sellers use to get us our products. So just relax and let them do their job and likely you will not have any complaints or worse..... look like a knucklehead.
I don't know if I am one of the people you are directing this statement to or not, but I would like to respond. I had been waiting for over 30 days for an order. I don't think I seem like a dweeb or a knucklehead for wondering if I had been scammed or not. I would think waiting 30 days for a domestic order before I even contacted VMM to ask what was going on is showing extreme patience. VMM has since started communicating with me and I do believe he is a stand-up guy. I was even willing to write it off as a loss and He says he wants to reship the item. I understand the holidays probably cause a cluster in the Post Office and things probably do get lost. Anyway I just wanted to give my 2 cents. Also, use the escrow system; it's there for a reason.
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I never received product and got no reply to my message. Whats up vortex? =\
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I don't know if I am one of the people you are directing this statement to or not, but I would like to respond.
I was just directing it to everyone posting negative shit about people on the forums without taking it up with them first. Look, we aren't buying cookies on SR and with that we assume risk with each and every purchase. If you don't like it, go to your local dealer and see how much you trust them. Until then, stop flaming vendors until all, and I mean all options are exhausted. It will make working with SR so much easier.
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Hallelujah! Jesus has landed!
Ok, not jesus and not a second coming but I did get my VMM package today. While I have a gazillion quibbles about how parts of the txn were handled, at the end of the day, everything worked out and really, that's what it all comes down to.
VMM, I'm a patient guy who really gets that unpredictable shit happens and that this isn't easy, risk-free work on your side of it. The *only* part of this that I ever had an issue with is the "in transit" status without follow-up when it obviously wasn't in transit after a reasonable amount of time. That said, I'm also willing to mark that aspect of it up to 'unpredictable shit happens'.
The product is more than satisfactory from what little I've had time to sample. I definitely got what I paid for and I'd do business with VMM again.
Overall, I should be so lucky that the worst thing that happens to me is a delay in the dope being delivered to my motherfucking door.
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I should be so lucky that the worst thing that happens to me is a delay in the dope being delivered to my motherfucking door.
I think I might have to steal this for use as my sig, mainly as a reminder to myself...
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My order arrived. Well packaged and nicely over. Rewarded for my patience. Sorry to anyone still waiting. Vortex is right on the mark even if behind on schedule. But hey I read these forums I knew..
Peace
Hilly
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order just got here! vortex was only off by a day in his estimation. don't worry people it's coming! and i was just a tiny lil order but he still took time to communicate.
it looks like nothing i've ever seen before. gorgeous and crystal clear. totally worth the wait and ended up being perfect timing for a fun weekend. :)
*destiny*
Add: hey it's been like 9 yrs since i've done any tina. i went ahead and seperated about 80 mg (have a milli scale) and bagged it for tomarrow. friday i plan on going out to see a friend and have a great time. if i start bumping little 5 mg bumps early in the day should i still be able to do larger amounts and get nice and tingly later that evening?
i don't want to burn out my buzz early but i'm super excited and want to have a great day. judging by the quality i think this stuff will produce no burnout at all.
does everyone just keep getting higher when they do vortex's stuff?
sorry been so long and have a small amt. want to make it count.
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i usually do 20 mg dose's and keep it going through the day(little to no tolerance as this is an indulgence). i find out that after a day or two you just don't feel it and worsen the come down. If you are doing only 5 mg bumps make sure you eat,sleep, and you will be fine.
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thanks! i used to drink yogurt smoothies n slimfast during long duration tweaks.
i used to poop out around the 24 hr mark too. called it the "24 hr rule". broke it once, stayed up 72 hrs, wasted 2 gs of fresh cooked slushy crystals, and saw shadow people outside lol.
woke up too early today cause i'm excited. hehe guess i'll have to wait.
*destiny*
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You don't feel it after a few days cause your body/brain builds a tolerance to amphetamines very quickly. Start taking about 500mg of magnesium taurate or citrate daily, preferably after your last dose of the day. You build the most tolerance between doses. If anyone has doubts look it up, its proven and has worked for me forever now. Just make sure the mag supplement is taurate or citrate, the mag oxide is complete shit, very low bioavailability and will give you the runs.
Sleeping at least 5hrs out of a 36hr time period will make a big difference.
V is not a scammer, just real busy and shit falls through the cracks sometimes. Besides with H back and these new sellers I'm sure the burden on V will lighten just a tad.
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Just as a touch back, just got my order from VMM today. I am very happy with my purchase, and wish VMM all the best. Got it to me before my week long trip to Holland, I am VERY happy! Thanks VMM!
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VORTEX IS THE FUCKING MAN. He has upgraded his packaging and his product is the same pristine crystals. i can not be more happy with this man and his product. Fuck the delay, because it was well worth it and taught me patience is worth it, as long as the product is pure. Vortex always delivers, so don't worry about the wait. It will come and you won't be sleeping for a while
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well coming off a wonderful 30 hr ride! and still have some left but i'm totally pooped. very clean high. largest line i did was about 40 mg and that carried me through nearly all of last night. hashed myself into a short 3 or 4 hour sleep, and then had to do a few bumps today to get back home from a friend's. still don't feel like i've been through a 36 hr binge. color shifting and paranoia are very minor.. just a lil jumpy as i always get after more then 24 hr on speed.
time for xanax, hash, and hopefully sleep!
gonna save the last lil bit for when i take dopeboy's mdma. might do a lil mdma then meth afterward thing.
this definately scratched a good 2 or 3 yr itch i've had. and i've only had better crystal once in my life (and that stuff was fresh out of the kettle, still slushy)
here's something interesting: this crystal is so good u can actually eat while on it! i was able to eat a yogurt and fruit cup, some chicken nuggets, and a fruit smoothie without any problem.
*destiny*
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Well, I am simply amazed. Utterly amazed. Never would have believed it if I didn't witness it. I just received mine today. Was hoping for the weekend, but I am quite happy anyway. Not that I was worried about VMM coming through. I had thorough faith in him. I just can't believe this process worked. I haven't has tina in 4 years and I remember loving it a great deal. Although, I never did much. Just used it once in a while for planned party night.
And to do it all in the comfort in your home. I hope we can keep this going for a long time to come. For us responsible ones, its a way we can definitely stay discrete and safe.
Now, for VMM's product. Very good stuff. It was over weight and quite clean. The shards were crushed for shipping, but that makes no difference to me. A very clean smoke. And has made me horny as fuck. I wish I had someone here with me to experience it. Its funny how ice fucks with your sexuality too. I could go hours on this stuff and have in the past.
To VMM. You are a very trusted seller and a quality to do business with. I look forward to doing business with you in the future for a long time. Through all of the impatience posts on this thread, you guys need to have some courtesy and cooth. We are not trading cookies on here (ok maybe sometimes, lol). Shit happens and we just have to recognize that and deal with it in mature way. Especially with well respected vendors.
I have to say for my first exchange. A+++++++ good work.
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Just thought I should followup my last ranty post on the thread, to avoid leaving something that might deter others from ordering since I did recieve it today. Around lunch time, I weighed out a .04g (40 milligrams) and sniffed around 30 on one side then 15 minutes later did the other 10 on the other side. Then decided to go for a cruise and get some beer, (funny how that works eh) :) I came up pretty fast and was pretty wired, but it seemed to lack the euphoria that Ive experienced the other few times Ive used it. Not sure why, Im definately not an experienced user, never smoked it at all. about 2.5 hours ago I did another 30 milligrams up the back door, which seemed to come on about the same speed as insuffalation, and now sitting here still drinking the beer and watching a movie...
Cheers V
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Has anyone been in contact with Vortex. He is not responding to messages and I'm at +45 days with no resolution.
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I came up pretty fast and was pretty wired, but it seemed to lack the euphoria that Ive experienced the other few times Ive used it.
Cheers V
i had the same kind of experience with vmm's shards. it was a good rush but lacked that certain high i was used to. i guess it is the L-meth that is being sent, when it has been D-meth that i have had the better high.
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did someone forget tolerance? its so easy to up your tolerance threshold on this stuff.. maybe VMM's supply is weaker than before.. but it could very easily and most probably be tolerance.. L meth wont do anything .. its useless.. and if IRC VMM's cook uses the typical HI method which its not possible to get the L stereo-isomer meth...
i dont know the last time u used and how much u used before.. but that should be taken into consideration..
smoking meth doesnt make u more of a tweeker than snorting the stuff ..
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I got my 1g yesterday, IDK how long I was waiting cause I stopped thinking about it knowing it would be a little bit. Showed up at a very nice opportune time. When opening the new packaging I was kinda disappointed to see the powdery crushed up product. I gotta say when I took a line I really thought it had been cut with salt, cause it burned so fucking bad, just like the last time my buddy accidentally got shit cut with it. But in the next few mins I got high as fuck! I thought this was one of his better batches, well mine was anyway.
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I just had to cancel my order with vtmm. I placed an order mid-week (Thursday, I think) and was never contacted and my order was never marked *in transit*. I contacted vtmm yesterday morning asking for a status and stating that I would cancel the order in 23 hours from that time (the end of SR's "holding period") if I had not heard from him. This morning I note that he has already been logged into SR ("last seen today"), but my order and message have gone untouched. Cancelled my order and will not be ordering from him again.
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I just wish people would stop bitching about not receiving stuff after 3-4 days, down in Aus we wait at 14 days. We all should know people in this line of business aren't always on their game. Just read this thread, Vortex has short periods where he seems to disappear, or is too busy in flaming wars with someone who is crying because they ordered on Wed and it hasn't arrived on the weekend. As "Chopper Reid" would say "Harden the fuck up". I have been waiting a while for an order but I am confident he'll come through (hopefully a little bonus).
Let me tell you about my real life supplier. On Saturday, he said come to the bar and I have some stuff for you. Wait 2 hours at the pub he finally drags himself in, looking the worse for wear. No stuff, no money, so I buy him a beer and pay for his taxi home. Tonite he tells me has stuff, go to his place, and he raves for 3 hours alternating between being god, and everyone should work for him to implement his incohensible grand plan, pulling out guns, throwing money around but no sign of the meth I really wanted. Finally suddenly he says lets some ice. So we go through a few big foils each. Then another two hours of raving, but it sounded much better after the meth (pretty good stuff). Then he decided he had enough took my money and just said help yourself. Then the saddest thing happened feeling guilty about the foils I short-weighted myself by .2 grm.
So a few days late is no big deal, vmm is not a 7/11 open 24 hours to serve us, it is obvious from these forums he sometimes slow but hey he hasnt got a monopoly on meth. If desperate try someone else.
So HARDEN THE FUCK UP.
He'll probably come through and who hasn't had a deal that hasnt, no good crying to the world.
Also I used to insist on big shards, but it all is the same shit, you can get shit shards, and great powder (really just broken shards)
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btw, I have yet to see a vendor " not last seen today", even ones with no feedback for weeks - perhaps this is a bug in the software. Hard to believe their is bugs in software
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Not sure if I am allowed to post links here but here is one to play before you make a complaint
► 1:47► 1:47
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmXri8ZCKjc
Lighten up there should be more fun in the forums and less petty complaints. You would think we are all English
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Just wanted to share my experience with VMM. I made my first purchase on SR with him a couple weeks ago, and received the package in an acceptable amount of time.
I opened it to find only about half of what I ordered, so I hopped on SR and sent him a PM. I got a quick response with an apology and that he would send the rest out the next time he shipped. I honestly thought that I had just been scammed...HOWEVER, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE, I was greeted with something in the mail a few days later. Sure enough, it was a fat sack with what he promised.
That to me shows he cares about all of his customers (long-time and new), and because of what he did, I will now be placing all of my orders through him. For what extra time I may have to wait, it doesn't matter because I know I'll get what I ordered.
As for the product, nothing different from what everyone else has said...SPECTACULAR. So thanks again Vortex!
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Don't get me wrong, I certainly don't think VTMM is a scammer, and I never said anything like that. I'm just telling you what happened. I don't harbor any ill will, I just chose to go another direction based on my experience. YMMV, clearly.
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I just wanted to share my most recent experience with VMM. I placed an order Dec. 15 and was told I needed to finalize early before it would be sent. Finalized and was told it was in the mail Dec. 16. On Jan 21 I sent a message asking if it was coming and I was told it had been sent but would resend. I was then told it had been resent and I would get it before this past weekend. Still received nothing and asked if I could get a refund. Now he's telling me Im the scammer and he's done with me. All of my messages were pretty cordial and I'm sure I will get trashed for dare speaking ill of a truststed seller but this is what happened to me. I used to order under a different name and have about 12 transactions in total. Never had a problem with any orders. Again this is only my experience.
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I thought I should share my latest and second positive experience from 2 orders.
The order had sat processing for a number of days before being shipped which was making me a little tense - I had a few friends to share it with over a party weekend.
A little over 3.5g turned up in the post Friday before lunch....PERFECT!
The packaging was very good, no smell, no shake, no feel through outer layer.
The shard itself had been crushed for shipment which had no effect on quality.
Burnt cleanly in a Sweet Puff with only a gentle clean with magic eraser after abour 0.5g.
Good product at good price.
Don't leave us VMM - JUST GIVE US WHAT YOU OWE - SALE AND LEAVE SCAM
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Long live SR!
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as always a flawless transaction. i asked him to do me the favor and make sure it got here by saturday for a project and he happily obliged. Great product, fast shipping, stealthy, and just an all around nice guy. Great customer service also and did i mention the pristine and perfect tweak in my hands?
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VMM is such a strange seller. Reviews on him are split. People either say that they got the package in like 3 days, or they say that he never marked it as in transit and haven't been contacted by him. I have no idea why the reviews are so inconsistent. Anyway, I placed an order with him yesterday, so I guess I'll find out which side is true.
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Just received shipment well worth wait.
Never thought I would say this about meth, but it was smooth. Even next day no horrible taste in mouth. Some of the best I have tasted.
One problem. To make sure that I had enough for weekend, I took a little out and put the rest in a safe place, now can't remember, I think its inside a book, so am now emptying bookcases.
Saw a post in one forum that we should all have a time-lock safe to cater for this - think I will get one tomorrow.
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its been 5ish weeks and I am still waiting on my package to Australia.
It must have got caught up at customs VM. Paid a premium on 2 x .5g orders as well :(
I always hate the first order with a new vendor not showing up. It gives me the new customer blues.
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I received from VMM to Aus last weeks after 35 days last week. Also been waiting for 20 days for other vendor from US. Seems mail from USA quite slow.
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I received from VMM to Aus last weeks after 35 days last week. Also been waiting for 20 days for other vendor from US. Seems mail from USA quite slow.
I know this isn't really related, but I shipped 2 packages to New Zealand a while back and they both arrived within like 9 or 10 days!
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My 1g order arrived to OZ within 2 weeks of the package being marked as shipped.
One thing I want to mention now that I've received another vendor's meth..
using the same method to vape (light bulb lol) VMM's meth has a slightly different taste but more importantly is easier to turn brown...
While I might be a meth noob (couple of months on and off), I think I've got the vaping method down pat:
- Ensure pipe (light bulb) is clean inside and out
- Use a BIC lighter an top of flame shouldn't come closer to the glass than 1cm
- Move the flame around a bit while rotating the bulb as well to spread the liquid in an attempt to keep the temp even
- Do not let the liquid
Also I usually don't vape any more than 40mg at a time
Haven't compared the actual effects properly but they seem on par with each other...
Any ideas guys?
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more importantly is easier to turn brown
it might not be your technique
if it was made from PSE, the PSE was extracted from meds that had many other things (gak)
the gak needs to be filtered out as part of the extraction
each brand of med has its own unique suite of crap that needs to come out
that means 2 things
1. good technique for one med won't work on another
2. some cooks are better at extracting & purifying than others
after the meth appears to be done, good cooks do a cleanup, another set of processes to purify the meth - there will be unreacted precursors, for example. pros call this the "workup" but it is touchy and can fuck up the meth
and some cooks are just in a hurry, so it's realistic to expect that the workup is skipped sometimes (or all the time by some cooks)
if you are not overheating it and you start with a crisp clean pipe then the brown may be gak that burns at a lower temp than the meth OR it is unreacted leftovers from the manufacturing process
exactly the same conditions with the other meth but no brown = might mean higher purity/better quality
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I received my product in a timely fashion. Packaging was good. I had never done meth before, so I did research on erowid and a few other sites, determining dosage and such. Reasoning that the first time I use meth I wanted dull (but noticeable) effects, that is, not "oh my god orgasm everywhere," I opted for an oral dose of 20mg after a light meal.
After parachuting it, I waited two hours before becoming concerned. Whenever I take ecstasy, the effects begin to appear between 30 minutes and 90 minutes after ingestion, so once the two hour mark hit, I concluded I was not going to feel anything, and that I must have taken a dose that was too small. I decided to try another dose. In hindsight I should have spanned experimentation over several days, but I reasoned that even a single 50 mg dose was not terribly dangerous. After another hour, nothing. I grew worried, assuming something was wrong on my end, since I read good reviews of the product here. I took another 30.
About 20 minutes after that, I felt some sweating and I could feel my eyes going a tiny bit blurry. Mentally buzzed, bit of tingling down my body, and a small urge to talk to people, I definitely felt some effects, so I opted to stop dosing at this point. The effects reminded me of a decent dose of Adderall that I used to use. The high lasted several hours, and a few hours after that I was able to sleep.
A couple days later, I decided to try again, opting for a starting dose of 50mg, but this time snorted. After half an hour, nothing, so I hit another 50. A couple of minutes later I felt myself waking up, albeit not nearly as buzzed as last time. The high this time lasted perhaps 4 hours, and I was able to sleep another 4 later.
Does anyone have any ideas as to why it took so much for me to feel much of anything? I have used ecstasy probably once a month over the last half year, and the most recent dose about a week before using meth. That may have something to do with it.
I have 60-70 mg left. Should I wait a couple weeks and see if it'll hit me then? Or just go ahead and smoke (some of) it?
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Thanks for the detailed response F140, lots of useful info there!
I always keep my bulbs (have a few) clean, but I'll be extra mindful next time to be sure.
I'm going to side with with your explanation of the differing manufacturing technique for the colour.
This method didn't seem to have affected the potency/feeling which I'm happy about.
Addy - when I first got VMM's meth, I railed about 50 - 60mgs over the space of an hour as at first I was having trouble feeling any affects (waited 30 mins after a 30mg bump) however after waiting 1 hour post my first bump I definately felt a lot more energy and euphoria... the energy, and some of the euphoria ended up lasting for around 14 - 16 hours. Didn't catch up a wink of sleep and work on the day after as certainly and interesting experience! :)
Some of the others here are bound to expand a lot more on this than I, but I recommend ensuring your foundation is solid before trying meth: healthy diet, reasonably good level of fitness, preloading with vitamins and antioxidants (especially if taking meth orally).
50 - 60mgs should definately be heaps snorting, but you'll feel the effect stronger vaping it, although should last for less than 12 hours.
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I'm going to side with with your explanation of the differing manufacturing technique for the colour.
It's not just color. It's everything except the PSE. Read the label on any box of PSE-based med. Everything listed needs to go away except the PSE. PEG, loratadine, carnuba wax...on and on. The mark of a standout cook is not reacting ephedrine or PSE and making meth, it's getting high-purity ephedrine or PSE to start with.
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Some of the others here are bound to expand a lot more on this than I, but I recommend ensuring your foundation is solid before trying meth: healthy diet, reasonably good level of fitness, preloading with vitamins and antioxidants (especially if taking meth orally).
Yes^^^ I utilize cm in smaller doses to increase productivity more often than I do to get fucked up, but I always dose in the morning, never re-dose after 1:00pm, and whenever possible I take a hot yoga class at the end of the day; sleep is not a problem. A light run and a 30 min sauna session also does the trick.
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Wiki: "Short-term tolerance can be caused by depleted levels of neurotransmitters within the synaptic vesicles available for release into the synaptic cleft following subsequent reuse (tachyphylaxis). Short-term tolerance typically lasts until neurotransmitter levels are fully replenished; because of the toxic effects on dopaminergic neurons, this can be greater than 2–3 days. Prolonged overstimulation of dopamine receptors caused by methamphetamine may eventually cause the receptors to downregulate in order to compensate for increased levels of dopamine within the synaptic cleft.[23] To compensate, larger quantities of the drug are needed in order to achieve the same level of effects."
I think I'll lay off uppers for a few weeks, and start with a small dose again. Hopefully it was just tolerance.
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hey mike heard about your scumbag move threatening your buyers..I can tell he wasnt lying.
Buyers beware if you give this guy anything less of an impeccable rating he will threaten you and talk about your address saying he has it...
go die
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Hello,
without wanting to read through all 29 pages of this thread. Does the seller (or "do you", in case the seller is reading this thread) ship meth reasonably reliably to an address within the European Union? Like did past transactions between buyers within the EU and this person work out?
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Hello,
without wanting to read through all 29 pages of this thread. Does the seller (or "do you", in case the seller is reading this thread) ship meth reasonably reliably to an address within the European Union? Like did past transactions between buyers within the EU and this person work out?
Read the general discussion board before putting in your order. Patience is key with VMM. And I don't know what to think about the threatening thread in the general discussion board. Wow.
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Has anyone heard from VMM, I notice his page is now empty, has he desert us. I hope not.
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Has anyone heard from VMM, I notice his page is now empty, has he desert us. I hope not.
His account has been suspended because he treatened a buyer to call the cops on him.
Well I hope he gets a second chance, it would be a shame to see such a solid vendor go.
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Has anyone heard from VMM, I notice his page is now empty, has he desert us. I hope not.
Edit the url : http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/5316
Looks active to me.
I wonder if the new "stealth mode" is going to make finding vendors hard. I wonder if VMM went stealth.
He has always come through for me. Sometimes nearly overnight, sometimes a bit longer. Always at least a tad heavy, sometimes more.
What threat?
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I'm still in contact with him and have a order ready to be finalised. Is it still safe buying off of him?
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Yes, its safe, im here =]
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hi all,
i have placed an order of 1g meth with VMM for Europe
ordered: February 10, 2012, 10:41 pm UTC
shipped: February 14, 2012, 9:18 pm UTC
At this day nothing is arrived !!! that is 16 days i'm waiting on the letter ...
Is anyone in the same situation of mine ? Is that normal ?
I'm worried .... the last order i have made with VMM the letter come more quickly ....
Thanks to all to give me information
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Hello all!
I decided to take an entire ounce out of my latest reup, break it down to half gs, and let em go for only 10 BTCs per .5g instead of the usual 17 BTC.
This is a LIMITED TIME SALE..and when this ounce goes its gone! so get em while they last!
That's right.....the same great crystal from the VORTEX.....going on SALE!!!
V
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Since you ordered right before the sale, I got you covered nuthin
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So took the leap of faith with VMM especially given his .5 special ;D.
Very professional communication, and even thought I had to FE (First time inti buyer from VMM) have decided to roll the dice. FE is against my better judgement, but his communication really did blow me away. He obviously treats SR as a business which gave me the reassurance I needed.
Thanks VMM will update when it arrives.
Hoffa
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Sucker for the .5g sale, just ordered -will get back to this thread when product arrives.
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ABC123 Seems pretty happy with VMM hahaha. Placed my first SR order with VMM. Can't wait til it comes through, but probably gonna have to wait 2 weeks coz i'm in AUS. Cheap as fuck on SR. VMM sale has 1/5g's going for $50 when half g is $400 here and cut to shit. Can't wait til this shit blows my mind.
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Shiznit +1 here.
Paid $100 for 1 point yesterday, and nowhere near VMMs standard burnt very easily, didn't go straight to the head like VMMs, tasted worse. Waiting eagerly now just finalized on the special deal.
Must be the big busts since Xmas that has caused extra cutting to come in. I have sworn off local product again.
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--(MARCH 5th Update)--
¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡!!!!!!!!!!!
The Sale was a great success and we sold out quick!
&
Due to a large number of requests, the SALE is BACK on.....!!!!!
V
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ABC123+ - I am trying to stay off the local shit (thats probably insulting shit), but you know weekend comes around and next thing you know, some is in your pocket, ready to disappoint.
Should use the delivery time to recover and get healthy for next binge.
Anyway have two orders coming from VMM, placed one just before the sale, and couldn't resist sale, so should have good supply for next month. Now with the new sale, am tempted again, have just enough bitcoin in account.
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I'm just gonna start buying quarters at a time, for the price of 1g here! It's bullshit. Plus the fact I've recently moved from the city to this shit country hick town where noone even knows wtf shards are they only know what 'gas' is. I'm bettin' this shit will be strong as since of the competiveness of SR. Even if it compares to the shittest gear i've ever had the price is still so fuckin' good... This first order coming in and waiting for it is killing me... Yeah I think I'm just gonna place an order every 2 weeks so I'm always stocked up.
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excuse my ignorance, but what is "reup"? Will it be the same as VMM's normal product (ie AWESOME)?
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excuse my ignorance, but what is "reup"? Will it be the same as VMM's normal product (ie AWESOME)?
A reup refers to the replenishing ('re') of a 'low' stock of product; the 'up' part referencing 'upping' the stock.
reup - v - to replenish one's stock of drugs
reup - n - the new stock of drugs that has replaced the old one
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Update:
the FIRE sale is still BURNING and more stock has been added!
Thanks everyone!
Shipped a bunch off, and handling more orders......
Waiting for a bunch of people who received to report here..........but its understandable not many report the good, people usually run to the forums to complain, lol
On another note: Very disappointed in a handful of customers leaving 1s and 2s...(here we go again) because again, they are angry at finalizing early..when i send personal msgs to those i require finalizing from.....still angry.....some even finalize out of their own will, yet leave bad reviews before they even recieve orders. (wtf)
Another client orders half O of crystal and is mad at me asking to finalize.......that scenario needs no explanation lol.....
Most people domestically who are verified by my standards get their order shipped out..usually intl larger orders need finalizations..why should i risk my product or wait for them to finalize? its my terms, and i am very helpful and i resend to those who truly did not recieve......i guarantee arrival, and i guarantee enjoyment.
to those few newbie buyers freaked out about finalizing....well im freaked out that u may autofinalize or lie...so its a 50/50 thing......
Let the flames from the sale burn on!
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excuse my ignorance, but what is "reup"? Will it be the same as VMM's normal product (ie AWESOME)?
A reup refers to the replenishing ('re') of a 'low' stock of product; the 'up' part referencing 'upping' the stock.
reup - v - to replenish one's stock of drugs
reup - n - the new stock of drugs that has replaced the old one
ah. Thanks, that is sorta what I thought it would be, but I didn't have a machine to google from right then, blah blah blah.... I was afraid it was a term for the meth equivalence of "scraping the bowl". Should have known better, from what I can see VMM just wouldn't do that. In fact, I ended up ordering 3 of the 0.5g items. I'm really looking forward to sampling his wares, I've had most of the others, and so far they all seem to have really good gear (that's a The Wire word, too, I think).
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To accomodate more buyers with different spending habits, etc, I am now extending the FIRE SALE of the 1/2gs to feature new .25g a tthe price of ONLY 5 BTC!
This is for people who need just a .25g but want to experience the sale price.
Thanks
V
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Hi, just wanted to put my recent feedback here, since it doesn't show up on SR. I'm username risky on SR, in case vortex reads this and goes 'who the fuck are you?' lol.
Got it in 8 days from order to pickup in mail. Which is Not bad considering how busy Vortex must be with orders. VMM: he's legit for sure! Keep those sales rolling.
Haven't tried yet, but looks exactly like first order I got from him. And that stuff was great. I'm planning to roll on molly tonight, so I'll hit V's stuff on the pipe a couple days after the xtc hangover. Later.
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^^ "WHO THE F ARE YOU" ;)
lol jk
GLAD TO HEAR YOU RECEIVED!
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Had an order go missing. I had finalized as soon as it was marked in transit as VMM has never let me down.
After it had been too long I sent a whining/venting message to VMM. (sorry)
He responded promptly and assured me he had sent it. I asked him what he wanted to do.
He said he had me covered and reshipped Priority.
He had me covered.
3 days later I had my order of VMM quality shards.
Thanks VMM.
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I feel ya ABC... My package is due this week.. Can't wait... Just bought some 'ice' which is more like speed so i guess its just a taste of whats coming...
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Ordered 4 days ago, FE. I know he's solid though. Hoping it come this afternoon!!! location= [ SE of US ]
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Just a follow up. Smoked V's sale stuff today. Man, I am tweaked enough to do some spring cleaning in my apartment with a toothbrush, lol. Glad I had the day off, I'd hate to tweak and work. Those bastards don't pay me enough to get extra work from me, lol.
I tried a different method by using a small, oval shaped 40 watt chandelier bulb as a pipe, because I read in forums somewhere its good for small amounts. I used after eyeballing about about a fifth of what V sent me ( I ordered a .5 gram, maybe he shipped it a little heavy, I don't have a scale). Jesus never had a small amount last so long, beautiful white clouds rolled around for about an hour and half, I shit you not! Now I'm no expert on tweaking, I am a casual that just started from stuff on SR about 4 months ago.
But I went thru the usual checklist of a good tweak: forehead sweat beads-check!, jaw going- check!, feeling like cleaning- get that spic and span going- check!
So VMM let me give you a little ego stroke, and say "excellent stuff, my man, excellent stuff". And those prices kick ass!
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Playing the waiting game is almost intolerable. Lol. 8th day of waiting for my first order... So close I can almost smell it... :D
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I posted a similar message in the meth dealer forum.
I received my order from VMM only a few days after I FE'd. MUCH sooner than I expected!
The weight was about 10% over-- and I appreciate that!!
Packaging is good enough. Don't open it up in front of your mother (unless she paid for part of it).
Product really is awesome. Smokes clean, super good IV rush.
Oh, someone mentioned a pipe, if you are in the US, jackrabbit31 sells awesome thick bowl pipes, and PriscillaMarie90 sells some quality thin bowl pipes. The stems on both pipes are nice and thick.
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14 days to AUS from order placed. Best shit I have ever been privileged enough to allow my lungs to breathe in. Thanks VMM!
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Thanks for the kind words everyone!
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ANNOUNCEMENT:
THE SALE BURNS ON.
WELCOME TO FRYDAY, MARCH 16th, 2012
The midst of March Madness is upon us here in the Vortex.
Grab your .25s or your .5 FIRE SPECIALS in my profile listings...but here....here is where you save lots of money....instead of the 8balls thats usually in the range of 80+ BTC.....
Grab it while supplies last @ the INCREDIBLE PRICE OF 58 BTC...
Finalizing early is required for this 3.5g special and you are guaranteed my support and assistance in the rare event something goes delayed, etc.
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V!
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Purchased the 5btc sale one the other day but wish I got the 10 btc one instead. Its still processing but probably too late to change it....although some is better than none.
I just need to develop some patience now :-)
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Want me to cancel and you order the 10 btc special?
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I just need to develop some patience now :-)
I'm with you on that one ;) Hoping for saturday!
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Want me to cancel and you order the 10 btc special?
If u can, that would be cool....should I message on SR?
Hope it doesn't set back delivery too much...I'm already bad with waiting lol
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Vortex,
How long has it taken to ship to AU? I just put an order through. Looking forward to trying it :)
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Hey Vortex,
I finalized early on the 7th, and am still waiting. Sent a pm to you yesterday am and received no response. I was under the assumption that you would ship as soon as I finalized (which could have been an incorrect assumption on my part). Either way, 10 days is a bit long for domestic, so any info you can provide would be appreciated. I know you are busy with sale orders (I paid full price for my half :) ), but...
Thanks.
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Well, I got the 1/2 gram sale VMM had going on and processing took FOREVER, But, after it was sent out, it got here today (2days). IT got here before some other domestic orders i placed a few days before VMM. I've never had crystal, Just shakenbake so this was a shocker when i blew out the smoke from my first hit . Very nice big crystal in the bag mixed with medium crystals and very fine crushed up crystals. Kicks like a fucking mule!
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I have the same thing going on, I finalized my order on the 11th for the 10 BTC half gram special and I am still waiting on it. Seems its taking a bit too long considering the fact that this is all domestic within the USA. In my opinion no order should take longer than a week within the USA, but that is just my opinion. This is my 1st time doing business with Vortex and my 1st time trying meth actually, I am really excited!!!!! :)
Peace
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I have the same thing going on, I finalized my order on the 11th for the 10 BTC half gram special and I am still waiting on it. Seems its taking a bit too long considering the fact that this is all domestic within the USA. In my opinion no order should take longer than a week within the USA, but that is just my opinion. This is my 1st time doing business with Vortex and my 1st time trying meth actually, I am really excited!!!!! :)
Peace
Yeah the processing period was a little too long but i'm sure he's doing tons of business so I got over it when my package DID arrive. Only took 2 days after he processed the order. Could be more than 1/2g but idk... not anymore :) lol. I bought a cheap glass marijuana pipe at the gas station that was very thin and frail and using tweezers, broke the glass where the bowl was to make the air hole bigger and dumped a few crystals in that and it worked just like a meth pipe. This was my first time with actual CRYSTAL meth so after my first toke i was like WHOA! Plus I had been doing H all night so I got plenty of crystal to binge on today and plenty of H left for later. VMM is an awesome seller with a fantastic product.
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Thelastremnant, msg me by monday if you still not received....you were sent out a while ago,
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I placed an order on the 12th which is still processing and while I may have been worried if this were a new vendor, it seems apparent that vortex is on top of his game and doesn't fail to come through for customers far and wide. I'm pumped to try out his product and just have to remember that patience is a virtue.
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I didn't change to the 10btc one cuz I lent someone on here a bitcoin & was short but I'm still happy getting anything. Now I see I've gone to in transit status and am even more anxious now. I really thought it would take longer....Thanks VMM
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All processing orders are being handled/have been sent over the weekend.
No worries my friends!
This is an insane sale, and I appreciate all the orders......its getting to be alot to juggle, but nothing i Can't handle =]
V
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Saturday mail was a bit of a bummer so hopefully I'll have a magical monday tomorrow ;) It's always important to have something to look forward to!
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ABC in same situation hanging out, I know I can get local shit only 800m from work, but am still hanging on (OK got 1 point for the weekend)
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I placed an order an order on the 14th got a mail the 18th which told me to FE ,
I replied by a yes, and now waiting for the status to change to "in transit".
Should I send my address again? Cause I m a bit worried with huge amount of order that he seem to have
I just want to be sure that he still have it.
I ll made a review as soon as it arrive, can t wait to try it !
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Sigh... Another day, another unfruitful visit from the mailman, despite being assured by VMM that I was shipped out last Wednesday via priority mail for delivery by Friday or Saturday. Disappointing.
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^ Same, ordered last sat, finalized last monday :( I'm hoping it's due to the USPS cutbacks and not that it was intercepted or something.
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I'd be shocked if it was seized. The two most likely explanations are (1) it's just taking a little longer than usual to wend its way through USPS, or (2) VMM didn't actually ship it out on Wednesday. I really, really hope it's #1, especially considering VMM's promise to ship it quickly and the orders I've placed since then based on that promise.
I'll post an update ASAP, hopefully saying i received it tomorrow. Otherwise my disappointment is going to give way to being pissed the fuck off.
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Mine got here in perfect condition. I just got it today, but I'm pretty sure it got here saturday. I just couldn't get it cause my post office was closed and locked because they were renovating.
I'm sure most of your troubles are the fault of the USPS, not the Milk Man. He's always been good to us. <3
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I bet (and hope) you're right Priscilla. Just gets a little frustrating when you think it might be here Friday, but it's not,so then you're sure it'll be here Saturday, but it's not, then you KNOW it'll be here Monday, but it's still not.
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VMM's shipping was a little slow, but it did get here today, and WHOA- worth the wait.
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Just gets a little frustrating when you think it might be here Friday, but it's not,so then you're sure it'll be here Saturday, but it's not, then you KNOW it'll be here Monday, but it's still not.
Heh this, exactly. Here's to hoping for tomorrow, goin on 8 days domestic, new record for me.
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I was stressing, too- but it got here for me on day nine!
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avg time to us west?
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Jesus Fucking Christ. If vortex doesn't come up with a solution in about five minutes I'm going to be forced to share a tale of absolutely abysmal customer service...
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Shut the Fuck the harpua....crybaby ass mofo.
I sent you 5 BTC.that i didnt have to....and i told you i ran into delays.
yes you finalized on one out of three orders.
And i said i will overnite you....
you are a crybaby.....in fact.....im going to cancel all your orders and refund you everything,.
have fun being a dick
and oh, you can keep the fucking 5 btc i sent your cheap ass.
lol. now run to some other vendor....im sure you'll find the service you like somewhere else.
You actually asked me to SHIP FEDEX?
man,....lol
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By way of a preview, he's a blatant fucking liar.
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You piece of shit.
Why the fuck did you tell me it had shipped days ago when that was complete bullshit? And you ask me to finalize early? How many other people did you lie to?
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Are you going to refund everyone else you told had been shipped but hasn't?
I encourage everyone who is expecting an order to ask for a DCN...
Are you going to threaten to turn my shipping info into leo, you piece of shit?
And refunding my orders doesn't do it, because I finalized early at your request, fucking liar.
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LEO? lol, no, you're just on my blacklist of people i never will deal with.
I actually am the idiot for sending you $25 USD.....you fucking piece of shit.
I sent you free btc and this is how you repay me?
you cant wait 24 hours to receive your orders?
I never said I shipped...i said if you FE the second order i would ship.
Instead i came up with a plan and said fine, finalize one and leave the others in escrow and i would ship.
I SAID I DID NOT SHIP YET AND THUS WILL SEND OVERNITE AND SENT YOU 5 BTC as a token of apology,
NOw youve shown yor true colors.
Who said anything about LEO?
Only you.....
lol
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Yes, harpua, priscilla and everyone else received, because they are normal people.....not impatient crack heads like you.
Harpua......use the $25 i sent you just now towards some CHILL PILLS®
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Jesus. YOu're incapable of telling the truth, eh?
Here's a message he sent me proving that he just lied again in that post:
You got it!
I got you covered!
Thanks for updating me and thanks for choosing me as your vendor of choice again!
I will not disappoint!
SPEEDY!
I shipped you out priority, to be received by fri/sat!
V 5 days read
delete
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LoL
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My order arrived today safe and sound.
I asked him when it should arrive and he told me a day. The day passed and I shot him another pm. He appologized and sent me 5btc and I wasn't even angry in the pm. I received it only 3 days after I was supposed to and ended up getting a 50% refund for the very slight problem in addition to his already awesome sale prices. I can't comment on quality because I have never done it before.
I am a happy camper, and will certainly buy from VMM again.
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Screenshot:
https://anony.ws/?v=2Xat5.jpg
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Nice alias, vortex.
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If you are referring to me I assure you I am not VMM. Guess I came to post my review at a bad time.
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DUDE, .....SCREENSHOTS?
HAVE YOU NOT READ THE PART ABOUT ME SAYING ITS RETRACTED AND EVERYTHING WILL SHIP TOMORROW ,, and i SENT YOIU FIVE BTC
and buyer43550550 is not me you paranoid weirdo.
DUDE HARPUA
DO YOU WANT ALL YOUR ORDERS sent overnite with extra overweight bags tomorrow?
I am not absconding you, i just said if you keep this up, all orders will be cancelled except for the one you finalized......
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM???????
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Don't fucking play dumb, man. I won't start the thread that I've already got prepared (yes, with screenshots) if you get me everything that you owe me by tomorrow.
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Start a fucking thread for all i care man,
like i said
you're showing your true colors.
I will not do anything until you post a screenshot of me sending you 5 btc.
WHy dont u post that?
oh, right youre making this a one sided issue.
You're not receiving anything buy tomorrow Einstein.
I said i was going to overnite this and you went nuts saying you want FED EX and that its delayed by a few days is unacceptable.
I cancelled the priority send to include everything together instead of sending separate since you ordered all in one day and we AGREED that since you finalize one i will send all then.
Since then due to miscommunication and your paranoid mindset, this order ahs went to hell.
IF you want to start threads, and continue to spread negative energy.......you're the only loser then.
I will not continue to speak about this trivial matter about half a gram.
You;ll get that.....maybe first class mail.
no more overnite, no more priority.
since you're an ungrateful fuck, who posts half sided stories.....and Dont admit that i sent 5 btc as a token of apology for the weekend delay.
This is what you sound like:
"(OOHHH MY GOD THE WORLDS ENDING!!!!!!")
ADMIT I SENT YOU 5 BTC you thankless fuck or else you get NADA........
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You've got an hour to decide if you'd rather get me what you owe me by tomorrow, or have everyone on the forum see what a piece of shit you are. Your choice.
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Jesus christ you're fucking delusional. I'm posting screenshots of everything, which makes it clear who is in the wrong here. If you want to claim that I left something out you better be prepared to back it up with screenshots of your own.
And lulz at the 5 fucking BTC. You're acting like BTCs are still worth $20 each.
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HARPUA, IF YOU DONT ADMIT YOURE AN ASSHOLE AND I SENT 5 BTC TO YOU EXPLAINING THE MIXUP...YOU'RE GOING TO GET NOTHING SHIPPED ON TIME
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Where did I deny you sent me 5BTC? The problem is that it comes nowhere close to rectifying the situation caused by your inability to tell the truth. And I clearly get nothing shipped on time regardless, regardless of what you tell me.
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HARPUA.
You're delusional.
YOURE NOT GETTING ANYTHING SHIPPED, if you do not retract your bullshit
and oh.....thanks for being a prick....so i send you 5 btc and you laugh at me and sitll expect product?
LMAO
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Harpua I know it's taking longer than were used to, but it seems like people ARE receiving and from what I've read I'm just gonna assume things are business as usual. No need for a full on flame war in his review thread. I have confidence I'll receive my order soon, so try and relax man, this isn't serving any constructive purpose.
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Harpua I know it's taking longer than were used to, but it seems like people ARE receiving and from what I've read I'm just gonna assume things are business as usual. No need for a full on flame war in his review thread. I have confidence I'll receive my order soon, so try and relax man, this isn't serving any constructive purpose.
Um. No.
Wait for the thread that's imminent, where everything will become clear.
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Everything is all good :) Received my order today! Man this shit looks killer! I have never seen real life meth before, only in pictures and this stuff looks sooooo nice, they look like super cool, clear, shimmering, transparent ice shards from the future lol. Man I don't even know if I want to smoke this shit, I kinda just want to sit here and admire these shards forever :)
Peace
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Ha. How many aliases do you have, vortex?
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LMAO, ohhhh boy i can use more publicity.
PLEASE start a new thread where you're the only asshole who didnt receive.
The only thing in this world guaranteed is death.
Stop acting like this is your right as an american to CRY..because you didnt receive an illegal product fast enuff.
you are guaranteed to have it in the next 36 hours.....however you choose to cry more and go insane.
a smart person wouldve taken the 5 btc i sent you, maybe bitched at me a little for the understandable frustration of the weekend delay.
but can you not see i am WILLING TO SEND IT ALL OVERNITE??????????
WHY dont you want your orders?
YES, i said it was packaged, ready to go with my shipping team, but the minute after that you agreed to finalize one out of 3 orders...so i was like cool....then the order got delayed over the weekend.
I apologized, sent you 5 btc....and said ill send it all overnite and overweight to make up for the delay.
DELAYS happen, einstein.
no1 lied you little cunt
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Wow, so you're saying thelastremnant and everyone in this thread is me?
wow you really need to lay off crystal.
i think i did you a favor by delaying your order.
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So you're still maintaining you didn't lie to me? Keep digging your own grave. Let me guess: when I post the screenshots you're going to say they're photoshopped.
And your claim that you're willing to send it "overnight" is just more bullshit, as I showed you with that tracking info.
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Dude.
Stop.
Do you want your fucking orders or not?
Do you want it or not?
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Jesus dude.
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Fucking send it, and then we'll see if it makes up for your fucking unbelievable shadiness.
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Jesus is right.
You just are fucking dumb.
Guess you're going to receive the other orders you didnt finalize on and claim you didnt receive them?
Whatever, As long as I know I was the stand up dude.....said it was delayed....offerred overnite and sent you 5 btc.....i dont know what the problem is.
No one is saying anything has been shipped.
one of your orders was packaged and basically ready to ship the next morning.. so when i msged you that you happily finalized one of the three.and i decided to add the rest to the same pkg....unfortunately it got delayed and it was my fault
so again, i explain..that is why i sent you 5 btc........your pkg is sitting here with all orders in an express pkg...ready to go in the AM.....
now you make me nervous sending product...that i know you will NOT finalize on.
hell i sent you 5 btc and you spit on me and shit on me in my own thread.
You are not a trustworthy, nor cordial buyer.
You made this a whole issue instead of saying fuck it, send it all now, and you will be snorting/smoking the stuff within 24 hours.
but instead, you did this.
Blame yourself
Shit happens, its up to the man how to deal with the shit life throws at you.
in your case.....a slight delay with free money and extra weight to make up for the delays isnt a bad deal.
Hope your future transactions go smoother.
END OF FLAME WAR.
I am done.
Harpua... if you are a mature man, you will agree to let things slide and just accept the gracious offer of me sending your orders via OVERNITE for FREE.
AM I A MONSTER FOR THIS?
IM SENDING A TRACKED fucking pkg......
am i hitler because of a weekend delay?
did i say i shipped it all and youre crazy?
NO! I SAID ITS HERE READY TO BE OVERNITED DUE TO MY FUCKING DELAY.
I AM AT FAULT FOR THE DELAY!
HELLOOOOOOOOO!
ARE you not understanding why i sent 5 btc?
because yes i am the scum of the earth due to a 24 hour delay and sunday.....excuse me master!
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You're still not going to admit you blatantly fucking lied about significant issues at least twice?
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Wow, do you still see how you come at me?
Lol, im done harpua.
Your orders have now been put to the bottom of my priority list.
Instead of shipping you out first thing tomorrow overnite, I think I will handle it sometime later in the day, and MAYBE, just..maybe you get priority....
instead of replying maturely and accepting my GRACIOUS offer.....which inho is way too much attention for your petty orders.
Hell i have people ordering ounces, finalizing early, from countries youve never heard of....and they trust and receive just fine.
You have publicly made a fool of yourself.
And you continue to say i lied?
what are you?
who are you?
I didnt lie....but even if I did...I dont gotta answer to you, and even if i did...so what?
obviously i didnt, because i sent your dumb ass 5 btc and was willing to overnite it.
YOU BLEW THAT DEAL.
NOW you will deal with getting your order via first class...since overnite wasnt good enuff...
You make 0 dent in my business or my life.
Goodnite....and please ask your mother as to why she didnt abort you
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obviously vmm and harupa are the same person. anyone know the avg time to us west? thanks.
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Harp, I'm obviously not a veteran around here, but VMM is one of the top sellers around. I mean, I would estimate the guy has at LEAST 50 orders a day- that's a lot to bag up and get sent out safely. He had my package ready to go last Saturday, but didn't want to drop 300 packages in the mail at once. I mean, I want my stuff quickly, but I can understand his trepidation! This meant it was not here in time for a party over the past weekend, but I will get over it. The guy is doing his best to please everyone on here with easily the best prices, so shipping can take a little longer! I'm not telling you what to do, and I don't pretend to know the nuances of your situation, but don't you think it would have been more prudent to handle this privately until you are certain something is wrong? Taking it public really hurts both parties, I think, and is only going to make it more difficult going forward. Just something to think about, man.
It's one thing if it's a new seller, but when the seller already has 30 pages of reviews...he's probably legit. I hope this works out for both of you and is resolved amicably.
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I don't appreciate being lied to, no matter how long he's been selling on SR. All he had to do was tell me that there was a delay, and it would've been perfectly fine. Instead, he makes up a bullshit story and doesn't admit it until it's impossible to deny any longer. If you wanna be lied to then by all means continue to deal with him. And I tried to deal with it privately until he freaked the fuck out and told me he wasn't shipping my multiple orders, some of which I'd already finalized, at all.
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I'm not telling you what to do, at all. I was in a similar situation, it's just that I took "went out" to mean "in the mail." It merely meant in the shipping pile- who wants to put 1/2o of crystal in the mail at once in 100 different packages?! Not me, that's for sure.
If this were me, and I am just saying: I would probably wipe my posts clean in this thread and try to deal with him privately. I mean, if you need to, you can always come back here or contact admins, but I really don't think that would transpire! Calm down, burn a jay, and work something out ;-) AGAIN, I am not telling you what to do, but my personal feeling is that might help. (I am not VMM and can provide proof if you don't believe me!)
Take care and be safe.
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And to continue to deny you lied is fucking insane, considering you know that I have screenshots that prove otherwise.
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Actually, you know what, im going to stick with my original MR NICE GUY plan and just get you out as fast as possible even though every message you send to me has been plain rude.....just totally unacceptable....does every msg to me have to have the words "fuck, fucking, fuckkkkkk?")
i hope you accept my apology of the delay like i did already send 5 btc to represent that...obviously its not good enuff.
I hope you still like the pkg that will make it there.......you seem to think that just cuz i delayed you you can talk to me however you want and there will be no repercussions.
Think about the way you have been behaving as a customer and ask yourself if you would still deal with someone like yourself.
The world doesnt revolve around you....though your mother may have made you believe that.
You know what they say about the Milkman and your mother...
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Don't worry--I would never think about placing another order with you after seeing how dishonest you are.
I have to admit the line about my mother was pretty good, though...
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And stop exaggerating.
you finalized a half gram order out of a total of two grams.
You fuck boys keep exposing yourself.
go ahead and edit your posts....
i dont need to take or answer to frivolous screenshots.
I got money to count and orders to pack.
keep talking and i will cancel all your shit and cancel your presence on this forum with one email.
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lol this reminds me of this one spongebob squarepants episode where spongebob and patrick pretend to be squidword cause its opposite day, and squidword is trying to sell his house. The real estate lady is like, "you're squidword and you're squidword and youre squidword, we're all squidword! Ahh.. good times
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Vendors have a very hard job. Give VMM a break , he gave you 5 btc when he was under no obligation to. VMM has over 300 transactions and has great feedback for one obvious reason , he is good at his job. Stop whinging and look at it from VMM point of view.
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Hi Vortex
I send you a message here as I am a new buyer and you seem to have dozen of order.
I understand that You dont have time to fully read some of your message, but I made my order on the 14th
and its still "processing" .You send me to PM to ask me if I FE was ok , answer u twice and ask you a question.
But you send me again the same message and then "waiting on you".Am I doing something wrong?or its just the massive amount of order .
Anyway thank you for being a seller, meth is a myth in europe, impossible to get.
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lol this reminds me of this one spongebob squarepants episode where spongebob and patrick pretend to be squidword cause its opposite day, and squidword is trying to sell his house. The real estate lady is like, "you're squidword and you're squidword and youre squidword, we're all squidword! Ahh.. good times
I love you.
This made me laugh out loud and put a smile on my face after i read through these new pages with a heavy heart. Please stop fighting, it's getting you nowhere.
I am merely a spectator, I have absolutely no idea what has actually transpired, but I do know that the Milk Man is a great human being. Honestly, and please don't take offense to this Harupa, but honestly if someone were in my review thread causing trouble, I most likely would not send them anything, ever. The fact that VMM actually refunded your money is good fortune on your end, because he could have just said he sent it and kept some extra cash.
I'm not saying harupa is wrong, nor am I saying VMM is wrong, I'm not taking sides here. I just think if VMM were a liar, he would lie about the 1 thing that were important, the shipment of your item, and he would have kept the money. But again, I have nooo idea.
I think this really should be dropped, if the money has been refunded, and left at that. If VMM is nothing but a liar, why would you want to do further business with him anyway? Someone has to be the bigger person and stop it.
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I love you more Priscilla.
If all I have to do is wait an extra week or so to get my order instead of getting stabbed then I will patiently wait.
I don't even have insurance, imagine the money I'll save on medical bills.
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Hey toup, sent you a message....was still "processing" as i hadnt got to it and didnt want to falsely mark in transit until u agreed to FE.
I just did earlier tonite, and marked in transit.
your order is en route!
V
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For the record I haven't received anything but 5BTC, which does me absolutely no good at all. I don't give a shit about the money and will send it back if vortex wants it.
Vortex--are you going to ship anything, refund me, or just keep my BTC tied up as long as possible?
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For the record I haven't received anything but 5BTC, which does me absolutely no good at all. I don't give a shit about the money and will send it back if vortex wants it.
Vortex--are you going to ship anything, refund me, or just keep my BTC tied up as long as possible?
"Actually, you know what, im going to stick with my original MR NICE GUY plan and just get you out as fast as possible even though every message you send to me has been plain rude." -VMM
Man, you really need to chill out and lay off him. Seriously. You're just going to burn yourself otherwise.
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For the record I haven't received anything but 5BTC, which does me absolutely no good at all. I don't give a shit about the money and will send it back if vortex wants it.
Vortex--are you going to ship anything, refund me, or just keep my BTC tied up as long as possible?
"Actually, you know what, im going to stick with my original MR NICE GUY plan and just get you out as fast as possible even though every message you send to me has been plain rude." -VMM
Man, you really need to chill out and lay off him. Seriously. You're just going to burn yourself otherwise.
There were subsequent pms that you probably havent't read there champ.
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Obviously I haven't read your PMs, but if that's how you were communicating, why post that here? Just confused.
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Obviously I haven't read your PMs, but if that's how you were communicating, why post that here? Just confused.
If you must know, I havent't received a response to my most recent pm and he has been on here more recently than on SR. I need to know if the orders i placed because he assured me they would be here last Friday are going to ship, or if he has decided again to not ship and instead hold onto my BTC.
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Take some deep breathes.
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I mean, I'm not him, but if I was a betting man (and I am), I would put all of my money on your final order going out today. I know you've been on SR longer than me, but I don't think a week is a terribly long time to wait with the volume he deals with, not to mention the 5BTC back and upgraded shipping. Shit, mine took 8 days and I was antsy, but completely fine with it since it got here yesterday- even though he told me it would probably arrive Fri/Sat, too. I'd rather he not put 100 envelopes in the mail at once so EVERYONE gets their stuff and he stays safe. Throw in an extra $25 and I would be an even happier camper than I already am!
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So it wouldn't bother anyone else if a vendor who knew you were in a hurry to receive an order sent you a PM urging you to give him another shot because his shipping times were much improved since the last time you ordered from him, told you the day after you ordered that he already shipped your order "priority, to be delivered by friday/saturday," had you finalize early, obfuscated and directly lied when asked if there was a DCN available, and completely freaked the fuck out on you when you said that USPS wasn't technically "overnight" shipping, and then vacillated between telling you that he was or was not going to finally ship it, several days after it should have already arrived?
I didn't realize my fellow meth aficionados were such mild-mannered saints.
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I understand your argument man. he said he shipped it out when he clearly did not yet. But come on, the prices are unbeatable. He has lowest prices available that's a fact.
This is a great service he is providing us. An extra few days is not worth getting angry about. Don't wanna shit where you sleep ya know?
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I am neither mild-mannered, a saint, nor a meth aficionado :). I just think it is much better to be patient to a certain point (though everyone who knows me would describe me as the most impatient person they know) to keep things moving smoothly- especially if you have other orders with him. I know VMM will take care of you despite what I would imagine was a pretty unpleasant interaction for him. Have a good week!
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Oh, it had degenerated to the point that we clearly could not do business again well before it was brought to the forum, and frankly he refused to be at all reasonable about it until it was. I assure you that if I post the screenshots of our discussions it would become crystal clear that I'm well justified in being very pissed off at him. At this point, though, all I want is for him to ship out all my orders via the fastest method he's comfortable with in exchange for my agreement to never say another word about him.
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I can see that; however, I'd recommend watching your tone next time (I'm not telling you what to do, again!)- the catching more flies with honey than vinegar thing, etc. However, I am still not sure why you would want a bunch of fucking flies.
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I met vinegar with vinegar. I get your point though.
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:) Glad everything seems to be working itself out. Have a good week, guys!
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I got .5g from vmm. I wanted to know if his was a usual experience as I have never cone it.
I ended up railing the whole .5g in one night and didn't feel much if any euphora or speediness. I fell asleep the next day, as in greater than 24 hours. I am still out of it today and can barely focus. Is this normal? Has anyone eperienced this before?
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Are you tolerant to stimulants, take any meds for ADD such as adderall, vyvanse etc? It would have probably been more euphoric had you smoked it or IV'ed it, although different chems effect everybody a little differently. I'm assuming some sort of tolerance if you blew through half a gram in one night though. I'll let you know my experience of it once it arrives, hopefully this week.
P.S - From personal experience people I know who have ADD or ADHD get opposite effects from amphetamines and cocaine, it calms them down rather than speeding them up. Just my own experiences with various "friends" over the years.
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Today marks the 9th day since I placed my order domestically. I've got my fingers crossed for tomorrow.
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Not responding to my messages, so thought I'd check the forum.
It's been a month now dude, and I still don't have my order. All I'm asking is for you to let me know what's going on.
Not very happy.
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Wow, did it get nasty in here.
Well, everyone has their off times but VMM has always made it right for me.
Just sayin........
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As a first time buyer, I finalized early for the milkman. It took 3 days "processing" --> "in transit", but he appears to have a heavy workload and I can respect that. I have faith it'll arrive within the next week or so. Thanks in advance, VMM!
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recieved my product that i ordered 19 days ago :) just wondering if anyone else who ordered around that time thinks of the stuff they recieved? i'm yet to try but just last time i ordered from VMM it didn't have any smell at all and was great but this time theres a bit of acetone smell i think? I havn't tried it yet and i'm sure its still good but just wanted to check if its the same awesome stuff even though there is a smell this time?
thanks :)
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NEW CRYSTAL BATCH IN!
SAME AMAZING QUALITY.
NEW PIC OF THE BATCH AVAILABLE!
CHECK ANY OF MY LISTINGS!
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i must be honest, to rail half a gram in one night is a huge amount!
i see in your posts you got some meth from elsewhere and took 250mg each, how long ago was that??
your tolerance may be up, which would explain things.
I never got meth before this, you must be thinking of someone else. Can anyone explain why it didn't work for me? Are some people intolerant to meth? I railed the whole bag that I could get out, and mixed the rest with some coffee and felt only a little buzz. Then I went to sleep 3 hours later and didn't wake up for 24 hours. I was ready to go to school and didn't realize that day had already passed.
I mean VMM seems to get great reviews so I am assuming there is something wrong with me?
Edit: The only other drugs I take are marijuana
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Yo milkman, wondering if my orders gone out yet. I appreciate the service. Thank you
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i must be honest, to rail half a gram in one night is a huge amount!
i see in your posts you got some meth from elsewhere and took 250mg each, how long ago was that??
your tolerance may be up, which would explain things.
I never got meth before this, you must be thinking of someone else. Can anyone explain why it didn't work for me? Are some people intolerant to meth? I railed the whole bag that I could get out, and mixed the rest with some coffee and felt only a little buzz. Then I went to sleep 3 hours later and didn't wake up for 24 hours. I was ready to go to school and didn't realize that day had already passed.
I mean VMM seems to get great reviews so I am assuming there is something wrong with me?
Edit: The only other drugs I take are marijuana
Slept for 24 hours? Sounds like you had one hell of a night, you sure you didn't blackout during the experience? I thought his meth was fantastic.
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Sorry everyone, VMM said my package would arrive monday and I got a package monday. It turned out to be .25g of xanax that I snorted all in the course of an hour. My bad. Didn't mean to shit on VMM's thread.
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^hahaha
I suppose that explains your restful night ;)
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What exactly is VMM's finalizing early requirements? Is it just new buyers to SR or new buyers to VMM. I placed an order and it's marked "in transit" and I have not gotten a PM from VMM asking me to finalize early, so I'm assuming I don't have to. My purchasing stats are 40+ orders with 0% refund and auto-finalize rate. I PM'd him earlier today with no response so I just thought I'd ask on here. Thanks.
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he has had TONS of order finalized early, he sent me a message asking me to, said because my buyer history was low he needed me to finalize(35 transactions and 1.96% refund rate)
i figured he just sent it to everyone, hes made a couple g's easily off of the sale and all these people finalizing early. it worries me because that is telltale sign of a scammer but im hoping for the best.
against my better judgement, and because i like to think im trusting person, i finalized early but in all honestly if i got fucked over i would like to think he was doing me a favor lol meth is a terrible, evil drug
edit: just checked out those pictures of the new product!! MY GOD!!! looks freaking bomb
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I entered the Vortex and came out alive!
VVM you are the man! Yes I was nervous about the FE thing, now I wouldn't hesitate at all! You V are my man man! 10 days to my little down under country ;) great packing, great communicator, with a great sence of humour.
Give respect and I would guarantee he will repay it 10 fold!
Thanks Bro! ;)
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has anyone received that finalized early around the 7th? I emailed him and he said I am so sorry here is 5 btc for your troubles. I am starting to think it was just to keep me coming here and bad mouthing him. If he would have sent out the day he gave me my refund i would have already received. I mean I guess I only stand to lose 5btc, but this is the second time this week i have been scammed.
Ii will edit this post if i receive, but it has been weeks now so I am not hopeful at all.
Are there any others out there in my situation. It sucks he has been at it for 9 months and now that I orderr i get nothing.
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When he first told me on this order I would have to FE, I just told him to cancel and I'd just order from someone else. I told I wasn't worried about being scammed. My fear is that something comes up and I get lost in the shuffle. We go back and forth b/c it was larger order. Then I'm told he'll overnight it and throw in some extra. My only options are to take a chance he'll send it, or what 20 days to wait for the escrow to time out. So I FE.
An apology, another promise of overnight delivery, and a week later; nothing.
The fucked up part is your not told FE'ing is a requirement until after you place your order. So when the rules change and I am now required to FE. There is no way to cancel the order.
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I would like to give him the benefit of doubt and just say he could be overwhelmed or overworked. Reading the reviews it seems to be hit and miss.
I understand sometimes shit just happens, and as long as everyone upfront it can be worked out. But to be given promises and assurances that are not met coupled with the fact that I'm the one who took all the risk. Just makes the whole situation worse.
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Well I was wrong to doubt, my order came today, day 11. No time to weigh it right now but it looks nice ;) Be back later with update.
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I didn't mean to call him a scammer. remember i am coming off of a outrageous dose of xanax. I am just saying there are lots of people who haven't received and it has been a long long time. like enough to get 5 orders in.
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My order from VMM took about ten days, from coast to coast (US). I think the reason it took longer than expected was the shipping delay VMM had over the weekend of the 10th... I was under the impression it would ship as soon as I finalized on the 7th or 8th, but it was no big deal. I'm always delighted when orders arrive in just a few days, but I'm not bitter when they take longer. I finalized early, per request, and didn't get screwed.
Weight was on point, and the crystal was pretty good IV'd, but DAMN the pH was high. Burned more than most crystal I've shot, but was still a good rush.
Sorry everyone, VMM said my package would arrive monday and I got a package monday. It turned out to be .25g of xanax that I snorted all in the course of an hour. My bad. Didn't mean to shit on VMM's thread.
Are you serious? I really hope I'm just not picking up on the sarcasm...
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You people really need to calm the fuck down! When you have snr forum members vouching for VMM you need to listen. Yes you are all eager to get your product, yes you have to FE, but this is your choice. I think everyone forgets sometime, that vendors also have a life outside SR and sometimes shit just happens.
Messaging a vendor continually just adds to the work load. VMM has survived on here for so long because he is solid! The "scam" word gets thrown around far too easily.
Stop, enough is enough. I have seen great vendors leave because they can't be fucked dealing with all the bullshit! Let's all ensure VMM is around for the long term!
Hoffa
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You people really need to calm the fuck down! When you have snr forum members vouching for VMM you need to listen. Yes you are all eager to get your product, yes you have to FE, but this is your choice. I think everyone forgets sometime, that vendors also have a life outside SR and sometimes shit just happens.
Messaging a vendor continually just adds to the work load. VMM has survived on here for so long because he is solid! The "scam" word gets thrown around far too easily.
Stop, enough is enough. I have seen great vendors leave because they can't be fucked dealing with all the bullshit! Let's all ensure VMM is around for the long term!
Hoffa
I agree hoffa, and if my memory is correct, he was one of the first meth vendors on silk road too, so lets hope he continues to stick around and doesn't let bullshit drive him out. +1 karma to you hoffa, and +1 for VMM too for all his sales posts, heh.
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Well I just had the pleasure of smokin some of this fine product, and I must say it burns nicely and for quite a while. I'm feelin good, no complaints besides the long arrival time, otherwise this is some pretty clean product! VMM please disregard that nasty PM I sent you, I had given up hope and lost all faith but now I know better, sorry man. Have no fear people, it'll arrive...sometime.
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I'll jump in..
I got 2.5 g's and it arrived in 3 days. Awesome service and great stuff. My first POSITIVE transaction on Silk Road. He did right by me...
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First order was quick fast, but this order is on day 7 now and I just hope it did not get stopped or the vendor just forgot to ship it by being to busy with the sale.
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Burned more than most crystal I've shot, but was still a good rush.
I noticed a little burning as well, nothin too bad like a missed shot or anything though. My mistake was not IV'ing first with a great rush, THEN switching over to the pipe. I attribute my minimal IV rush to the many many bowls that were smoked first, only had .04 left to spike. Next time... >:D
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v.m is my go to meth vendor , patience is necessary if your in the UK though , 2 - 3 weeks I.M.E , but it's worth the wait .
It just means I have to order euro speed , while waiting and trying to forget about it until it shows up to make my day !
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Update:
the FIRE sale is still BURNING and more stock has been added!
Thanks everyone!
Shipped a bunch off, and handling more orders......
Waiting for a bunch of people who received to report here..........but its understandable not many report the good, people usually run to the forums to complain, lol
On another note: Very disappointed in a handful of customers leaving 1s and 2s...(here we go again) because again, they are angry at finalizing early..when i send personal msgs to those i require finalizing from.....still angry.....some even finalize out of their own will, yet leave bad reviews before they even recieve orders. (wtf)
Another client orders half O of crystal and is mad at me asking to finalize.......that scenario needs no explanation lol.....
Most people domestically who are verified by my standards get their order shipped out..usually intl larger orders need finalizations..why should i risk my product or wait for them to finalize? its my terms, and i am very helpful and i resend to those who truly did not recieve......i guarantee arrival, and i guarantee enjoyment.
to those few newbie buyers freaked out about finalizing....well im freaked out that u may autofinalize or lie...so its a 50/50 thing......
Let the flames from the sale burn on!
I on the other hand, comment on both the 'good' and the 'bad' and the just plain ole 'ugly'. Lol. I do so fairly, unemotionally, intelligently and without bias to your seller's, buyer's and/or just human stats.
vortexmilkman canceled 2 of my orders because I'm new and I would not go against direct recommendation from Silk Road Support - NOT TO FINAL EARLY.
I'm not mad at you vortex. I even like you. We communicated several times months ago about Silk Road and the high prices of crystal meth here. You helped me understand many things I had not thought of, thank you! So when I finally scraped and saved the coins, I ordered both the .25 fire sale and the .5 fire sale. I have never started a 'crystal ship voyage' with less than a teener (1.75 grams) before if I want even a chance for a good time, but it had taken me months to get those coins. And I really wanted to try yours!
Then you cancel my order. You seemed like a nice guy when we chatted months ago. But canceling me like that was just rude! No, 'sorry, maybe later' only a 'kiss my ass' sent from SR Support. When you just discount people because they are unhappy with this rude request, you ask for bad reviews. I wouldn't do it no matter how you treat me. That would be rude as well as inappropriate.
This is NOT a bad review. I just don't like the ambiguity between the buyer/seller rules. What is the use of even having the escrow/bitcoin/finalize features if they can just be side stepped for the vendors benefits. I'd rather see a 'favorite' vendor put their items on stealth or vacation until they recoup their ducketts to open again than to have the entire reason Silk Road set that up because you want your money now.
Shrug?
I never return to vendors that treat me with such utter disrespect my friend. It's the only control the public has over a business. Don't give them your coins! I'll bet you if every buyer you ever sold to, refused to finalize early that you, hell - all vendors - would stop asking for this un-Silk Road vendor habit. I wouldn't care if you were the last crystal vendor on Earth of my most favorite item in my life. Treat me bad one time - shame on you. Treat me bad twi ..... hell - never mind, that's it! Lol!
I don't ever give my money to businesses that treat me that way. You may take that to the bank!
To anyone else reading this; Don't be a little bitch! Never allow vendors to treat you like a junkie by asking you to do any thing in direct contradiction to Silk Road Buyer Guidelines! They will never appreciate you for acting that way.
Would you?
Peace and much love to you all! You too Senior Vtexmlkman! I mean that!
Oz
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I approve of Moronontherun's post. :)
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I approve of Moronontherun's post. :)
As do I Scampony! As DO I!
Still beating that poor ole dead horse ==== poor thing! ???
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When he first told me on this order I would have to FE, I just told him to cancel and I'd just order from someone else. I told I wasn't worried about being scammed. My fear is that something comes up and I get lost in the shuffle. We go back and forth b/c it was larger order. Then I'm told he'll overnight it and throw in some extra. My only options are to take a chance he'll send it, or what 20 days to wait for the escrow to time out. So I FE.
An apology, another promise of overnight delivery, and a week later; nothing.
The fucked up part is your not told FE'ing is a requirement until after you place your order. So when the rules change and I am now required to FE. There is no way to cancel the order.
Oh no SpaceCadet!!! That's not a good story! I'm so sorry for you. You must me in turmoil! He wouldn't have sold to you if you didn't. That seems to be standard practice for the established vendors here. (shaking my head) I never finalize early. I'd rather have nothing again than to be asked that. Like Moron said, never bitch out because you feel you have no choice. There are 2 other crystal vendors that don't ask that. Go to them or if you have tried them all and for you - the milkman's stuff is all you want, quit doing meth! Lol!
You have your respect and dignity. Silk Road respects that and tells you to not finalize early and that you loose any way of recourse. I'm pretty sure all the meth dealers here to the tracking thing even if they don't all give it to you, (not really necessary) so they can see it was or was NOT delivered. So what am I missing here that vendors feel the need to go against the buyers guidelines and as for finalizing before you get it? (shaking my head again boss) (still shaken it boss!)
Please PM me if you get your package. I really care if you got it or not. I love Silk Road and it should operated just like Amazoom.com or any other on-line mail order business. Silk Road built those finalization features for everyone's fair treatment. My hat's off to you Silk Road designers!
Good luck in getting that! Keep me informed if you will SpaceCadet.
Thanks!
Still beating that poor ole dead horse ==== poor thing! ???
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vendors ARE allowed to ask buyers to finalize early. you got your facts wrong.
vendors that have more then 30 transactions and have been a member for more than a month can request buyers to finalize early. That is understandable and if you dont like it when a seller asks you this, just dont buy from or ask them to cancel. its not a hard decision to make. If you cant afford to lose your coins dont finalize.
most people forget, what is NOT allowed is out of escrow transactions, that is strictly prohibited.
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You people really need to calm the fuck down! When you have snr forum members vouching for VMM you need to listen. Yes you are all eager to get your product, yes you have to FE, but this is your choice. I think everyone forgets sometime, that vendors also have a life outside SR and sometimes shit just happens.
Messaging a vendor continually just adds to the work load. VMM has survived on here for so long because he is solid! The "scam" word gets thrown around far too easily.
Stop, enough is enough. I have seen great vendors leave because they can't be fucked dealing with all the bullshit! Let's all ensure VMM is around for the long term!
Hoffa
Hmmmmmm?
Aren't these places to say what we want, what is real or happening to us at that time? I'm just curious, because a person who has not gotten their stuff, even if it is 1 in a million, is not going to be a very happy person.
We've all had that happen and knows how it feels. Maybe we cry too much, but lets just enjoy that they have some where to come to to vent.
If I'm wrong and that's not what forums are about? To discuss ..... ........ ....... things? By all means, let me know
Thanks
Still beating that poor ole dead horse ==== poor thing! ???
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LMAOROTF! Lol!
I'm sorry, but I have only been here about 30 minutes and commented my personal opinion (oh wait a minute! That just happens to be Silk Road Support's opinion too! [slapping my forehead here boss!]) to never finalize early and I gained (or is that lost? I mean if I gained a - then isn't that a double negative? lol - I don't really know - nor do I care!; I grew a '-1 karma' point (what ever the heck that is! Lol! ??? )
My karma is just fine with God so don't you just worry about me - however that appeared - is no concern of mine!
(but it IS so funny! lol)
Wait a minute! Can I get MORE negative karmas? (so is that a double negative too then?) I mean it really means a lot to me that some idiot likes or does not like what I say here .... or any where for that matter. I totally appreciate EVERY THING ANY ONE ELSE SAYS HERE! Lol! { hint hint - That's what acting like a mature animal is like.}
So bring it on bad boy (or girl if the case may be:) I love ya any way!
Still beating that poor ole dead horse ==== poor thing! ??? Still beatin it boss! ???
(still laughing..... that is so funny! -1 karma! Lol!)
sorry
snicker - tee hee
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LMAOROTF! Lol!
I'm sorry, but I have only been here about 30 minutes and commented my personal opinion (oh wait a minute! That just happens to be Silk Road Support's opinion too! [slapping my forehead here boss!]) to never finalize early and I gained (or is that lost? I mean if I gained a - then isn't that a double negative? lol - I don't really know - nor do I care!; I grew a '-1 karma' point (what ever the heck that is! Lol! ??? )
My karma is just fine with God so don't you just worry about me - however that appeared - is no concern of mine!
(but it IS so funny! lol)
Wait a minute! Can I get MORE negative karmas? (so is that a double negative too then?) I mean it really means a lot to me that some idiot likes or does not like what I say here .... or any where for that matter. I totally appreciate EVERY THING ANY ONE ELSE SAYS HERE! Lol! { hint hint - That's what acting like a mature animal is like.}
So bring it on bad boy (or girl if the case may be:) I love ya any way!
Still beating that poor ole dead horse ==== poor thing! ??? Still beatin it boss! ???
(still laughing..... that is so funny! -1 karma! Lol!)
sorry
snicker - tee hee
LMAOA! ROTHFF! AGAIN! LOL!
I really need to learn how to read faster! I noticed Moronontherun also gained that double negative! LMAO! LOL!
He'll be so pleased, LMAOOOOO!!!!
ahhh, I think I just wet my self! HA HA HA HA! This is PRICELESS!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!
Thank you so much for this time. I have to go change my diaper! LOL~
Still beating that dead horse!
lol
lol
lol
lol
there cumin to take me away ha-ha, they're cuming to take me away ho-ho!
Ho-ho, Ha-ha ----- to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time.....!
THERE COMING TO TAKE ME AWAY! HA HA!
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Well that was an awesome derailment, can we stop kickin the dead goddam horse, bury or perhaps cremate it based on your own religious beliefs if applicable and get back to product and shipping reviews?
That's all I have to say, except I vote for burning the goddam horse..
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As far as "needing to calm the fuck down" and being too eager.
Eagerness has nothing to do with it. I just didn't like the fact I was given certain expectations and they weren't met. I'm not flaming, calling people names, throwing out accusations. or getting personal. Nor am I being irate about the situation. I've only stated what was happening.
I fully understand that vendors here have lives apart from SR. Plus, I understand they have other issues that are inherit to being a vendor. But just be upfront about it. Just let me know what to expect and if it changes, let me know. I'm not asking for details just a quick update on the vendor page or a PM stating there is a delay. This isn't an absurd request or expectation from a customer.
I've worked with other vendors who told me that it would take a month before I saw my order. I'm okay with that. Another stated they were having issue that would delay the order a few days, but would update me when the order went out and gave me an ETA, again I' m okay with that. Hell, I've got another order that I decided to leave pending (even though I could cancel) until the vendor can work out personal stuff. Since they were upfront, I wrote them saying I would leave the coin in escrow unless I was told it couldn't be fulfilled or if needed to recover the coin. If I do need recover the coin, I wrote that I would give them notice and a chance to fulfill.
Can someone please point out how I'm being irate, or making unreasonable demands?
PS
VMM – just a suggestion, if you have requirements about who does and who doesn't have to FE it would be nice if it were made clear on the vendor page. This way it's not a surprise after an order is placed. This way it only needs to be stated once. I’m sure this would be a great time saver for you.
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1 of 5 fuck this motherfucking bullshit. this is a fucking domestic order there is NO REASON why it should not arrive and the fucking site auto finalized for me of course. I hate my fucking life. 21 minutes
I sure hope my order comes through. It'll be my first time trying meth.
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If it makes you feel any better I was literally 2 seconds away from doing that myself the other day, I was so convinced I was fucked I didn't even wait for the mail to come and sent him a nasty PM...then I received it a few minutes later. Figures right? Definitely sucks for a domestic order but he came through in the end. Product was REAL nice and a lil overweight also. Heard from VMM earlier today and have been waiting to hear back from him regarding something else tonight, but seems like he ain't around.
Oh and for his sale it seems like he requires almost everybody to finalize early, maybe since you didn't or he forgot to ask you to, it never shipped...just a thought. Hope shit works out brother.
Didn't notice it auto-finalized
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woah what's going on jeez
last time (also the first time) i ordered from VMM it took a while but he was backlogged a bit, lots of people were getting antsy and giving him a bad rap but in the end everybody was satisfied.
i haven't been on the forums in a while but he's shown that he's a good guy and if there's still any of the sale left tomorrow (when i get my coins in, fingers crossed) i'm definitely going to be ordering some :)
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He marked mine as shipped a few hours ago and didn't ask me to finalize. Hopefully he really sent it because I never finalize early.
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He asked me to FE because I'm a new buyer, which I did out of trust. Only after that did I see the flak he's been getting on here over the past couple of days. Hopefully that doesn't come back to bite me in the ass and I'll get something sometime this week. I guess for now I just need to exercise some patience.
"The waiting is the hardest part." - Tom Petty
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"The waiting is the hardest part." - Tom Petty
Ain't that the truth :)
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To Vortexmilkman :
Please don't leave us. I see your fire sale listing, your fantastic track record, all the little fish going crazy for your meth fish food, and all of us finalizing early to get this awesome price. I guess if you pulled out now you would probably walk away with close to a million dollars. Probably retire in luxury with 10 sex slaves and a marble castle. Please stay with us for another year before you do this so you can have 1000 sex slaves and a solid gold castle :)
Thankyou and keep up the great work!
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Vortex:
My SR username is neonindian and I was just curious when you actually shipped my order. It was put in transit in the early hours of March 22nd UTC and I paid for Priority and nothing yet as of today. I sent you a message asking the same question but it seems like this may be an easier way to contact you. I'm not angry, just want clarification. Thanks!
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Just received my very first SR product. processing -> in-transit took 2 days. Finalized early and received my order 4 days later. Good size shard. Great quality. Not the most discrete shipping, but it got here! I'll vouch for VMM any day.
EDIT: This was shipped domestically, probably < 1000 miles
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Ordered March 16th, finalized next day. Still waiting for the package.
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Ordered the first batch of "fire sale" around march 2nd. VMM asked to FE which I gladly did.....he didnt mail me to let me know that the package was on his way.
About 12 days later I mail him to know if everything was all right and he responded that it is and it was shipped early that week ( which is still about 1 week after I FE ). No problem I trust him.
Mailed him again 3-4 days ago because I feel it should definitely be here by now, no answer.
I placed another order to another address because I need it for a particular event and I still trust that VMM gonna deliver. The order is "processing" since then.
Right now I only want to know what is going on. Everyone has a life and everything could happen. It's not only about the money that I'm losing but the fear to use the address because the package couldve been seize by LE but right now I just think it never went in the mail in the first place.
Hopefully VMM will be back and resolve the issues. I still have faith in you VMM, you can do it !!!
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Well i ordered last night and got a response PM that i was packaged up for departure in the am...yet the it's still processing, but i've come to realize that her doesnt get back to silk road until the evenings to make them in transit. I'll update with everyone asap. :)
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Just received my very first SR product. processing -> in-transit took 2 days. Finalized early and received my order 4 days later. Good size shard. Great quality. Not the most discrete shipping, but it got here! I'll vouch for VMM any day.
EDIT: This was shipped domestically, probably < 1000 miles
Well shit, aint you lucky! Did you order bulk or just half gram?
I'm going on Day 15, possibly Day 17 because I ordered on the 9th or 10th and was asked to finalize a few hours later or so. Then I couldn't get the PGP thing down, so I re-sent my address with privnote on the 11th, and I'm counting from then (Sunday).
I gotta admit if I knew it'd take this long I may have ordered from another vendor, but I was and still am technically a n00b with 6 transactions, all of which has arrived promptly except one. I would rather pay an extra $20-$40 if I knew it meant same or equivalent quality AND fast shipment (3-5 days), or just the vendor sticking to their word. I mean shit, I get good stuff locally, ah about maybe 8 times out of 10, but I like the excitement of receiving mail and, well, shit it's cheaper on the road.
Also, I was told it would be shipped last week and that I would receive it soon. 6-7 days later still nothing. It's killing me and I feel disappointed I was told a white lie after I felt like 'this dudes pretty cool' in how he replies (types/texts?). But i'll also say that if he is getting high off his own supply, then hell, he's pretty responsible I must say to be in business this long and only now some problems are occuring. Much more responsible and longer lasting in this business then I'd be, or majority of us smokers probably. Just sayin.
Not to take anything away from vortex, you don't accumulate that sort of reputation and quality business as a scammer or anything. He is not that, just overwhelmed with orders perhaps. Or putting overseas/bulk orders/familiar customers - as top priority. I would however like to be treated fair considering I put trust in him by FE.
Anyway I do not doubt it will show up. I know it will. Just being given the run-around is frustrating. But i do not doubt the man and I feel it'll be here this week, although a week ago would've been dope [no pun, or on second thought, why yes, pun intended]. Man if it shows up tomorrow because he shipped on Saturday (our last communication together) I would not mind the wait at all, because it's my birthday! And I will chalk it all up to being fate that my order was delayed and arrived on the 27th baby!!! But, unlikely. But sometime this week, sure, it's likely.
If it arrives this week, I would do business with VMM again because I give everyone/everything I do two chances.
Apologies for the novel..
Anyway I'll be back to update. Later guys
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I ordered on the 15th was asked to finalize on the 16th even being a return customer. Kinda made me wonder but hey I would not like so much BTc tied up in escrow so no problems. Heard theits packaged and ready just waiting for you ot FE..Saw him on forums and on main site adding new sale next day and had to ask a few times to get it intransit so I could FE and sit around all day waiting to FE. I was hoping to get i by last weekend. Clearly VMM is getting high on his own stuff I have a notion of where he is and where I am and by seeing his times on and off the forums not rocket science. Lots of updates on product and pricing and in fact the big FRYDAy sale 8ball actually made me worry more. Now after 3 days of my message not even being opened and lots of posts here by others, I am thinking the ponzi scheme has almost run its course or he is so high he flat out quit caring. Appears as though people get stuff delivered weeks later and everyday more FE so great rep score but little real flow of product.
Hope I am wrong but I am moving on.
Hilly
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Been a week since my PRIORITY pack was supposedly shipped.
Been OVER a week since my friend's was shipped.
We've received nothing.
Cmon vortex. Don't make me keep posting in all your threads.
Just want what I paid for...or you know, an answer to my PM's since you've totally been online multiple times since I pm'd you.
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just thought I'd come in here and say that I ordered a half gram this past friday; he asked me to finalize early because we'd done business before, and said that he would be mailing it to me within the next few hours. I finalized early, he mailed it that day, and I had it on Monday. No complaints with him, FWIW.
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Its already started but everyone who finalized early and didn't received yet should switch their feedback to 1/5. We could always switch it back to 5/5 if things get solved.
That way it should trigger a warning to the people who are still buying and finalizing early.
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Been a week since my PRIORITY pack was supposedly shipped.
Been OVER a week since my friend's was shipped.
We've received nothing.
Cmon vortex. Don't make me keep posting in all your threads.
Just want what I paid for...or you know, an answer to my PM's since you've totally been online multiple times since I pm'd you.
Did he ask you to finalize early?
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Well this sucks, hopefully he is just backed up.
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the situation right now is identical to what it was the last time i ordered from him (although to a much bigger scale this time)
at that time there was a lack of communication from him and orders were taking longer than reasonably expected, but afaik everybody did end up getting their order
more communication / structure from him would be nice, but for anybody worrying i recommend just sitting tight and being patient :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqTKOq8DmWU
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Hopefully this is true. I think people order domestic for the speed so when there left waiting 10 days, it seems right to jump to the worst conclusion.
I will say this my buddy made 2 orders on the same day, 1 from the UK and 1 from VMM. Can you guess which one got here first? Although today is only day 6-7.
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Been a week since my PRIORITY pack was supposedly shipped.
Been OVER a week since my friend's was shipped.
We've received nothing.
Cmon vortex. Don't make me keep posting in all your threads.
Just want what I paid for...or you know, an answer to my PM's since you've totally been online multiple times since I pm'd you.
Did he ask you to finalize early?
I ordered 0.25 g for a friend to his home address and VMM asked me to FE due to my buyer history(wtf? I probably have higher spent avg than most ppl on here), it was only 5 BTC so what the hell. It's been over a week and this priority shipment probably still hasn't shipped. What a fucking drag, I'll never use him again.
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So did anyone receive anything today?
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VMM CHECKING IN!
UPDATE!!:::::::::::::
Hello all,
All those with slightly delayed packages, especially international will be glad to know that this week most, if not all pending orders will be received.
I had extremely important matters to handle and could not devote 100% of my time as I usually do, over the weeked...
From the weekend till today I have been checking in intermittently with SR, but shipping has been on pause for basically the last two days, except for a couple emergency orders etc that I instructed some of the shipping team to handle.
Now that Im back 100%, everything is handled, and the late int'l orders from last week has been sent off already.
Those who received in the last few days/today, thanks for the continued support!
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and then a dozen nervous tweakers calmed down ;)
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Good news !!
What I wanted first is some news....now I have some, thanks !
Hopefully the stuff will come !
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Why mark it as In Transit then? That's misleading and doesn't make your customers like you any more. The delivery address I use is miles away and I have to drive there every day after the 3 day mark after you marked as shipped. Thanks..
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lol I felt this way on the first go around, same type of deal, not really sweating it this time. You folks need some benzos or opiates to calm your bones ;)
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Why mark it as In Transit then? That's misleading and doesn't make your customers like you any more. The delivery address I use is miles away and I have to drive there every day after the 3 day mark after you marked as shipped. Thanks..
yeah the fuck? He sent me a message saying I have to finalize if I agree he'll mark it in transit or else he won't ship my order. He marks it in transit first forcing you to either finalize or wait with your coins held.
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VMM CHECKING IN!
UPDATE!!:::::::::::::
Hello all,
All those with slightly delayed packages, especially international will be glad to know that this week most, if not all pending orders will be received.
I had extremely important matters to handle and could not devote 100% of my time as I usually do, over the weeked...
From the weekend till today I have been checking in intermittently with SR, but shipping has been on pause for basically the last two days, except for a couple emergency orders etc that I instructed some of the shipping team to handle.
Now that Im back 100%, everything is handled, and the late int'l orders from last week has been sent off already.
Those who received in the last few days/today, thanks for the continued support!
Like how long ago are we talking you were having troubles, because mine supposedly shipped 19 days ago. Then you said it was delayed and I should have received it 10 days ago. So this weekends misshaps shouldn't have affected me at all? Are you using the pony express? ::)
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VMM CHECKING IN!
UPDATE!!:::::::::::::
Hello all,
All those with slightly delayed packages, especially international will be glad to know that this week most, if not all pending orders will be received.
I had extremely important matters to handle and could not devote 100% of my time as I usually do, over the weeked...
From the weekend till today I have been checking in intermittently with SR, but shipping has been on pause for basically the last two days, except for a couple emergency orders etc that I instructed some of the shipping team to handle.
Now that Im back 100%, everything is handled, and the late int'l orders from last week has been sent off already.
Those who received in the last few days/today, thanks for the continued support!
Hell yeah man, this update is good enough for me V! Thanks for calming the nerves because I dun shit my pants. Feelin better about this now. Can't wait to try it :D
Will try and review product here and update my 'FE feedback' with real feedback after first few exhales, guarantee. Right on man, take care.
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Well that is a nice update I suppose. He even replied to one of my PM's which I respect. But the waiting game continues....
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This thread has been going on for over 6 months, and some of the very first posts complain about how long VMM's product takes to arrive, and about finalizing, and about marking "in transit" when it clearly isn't, and yet you all are *surprised* when you have to FE, or that it takes 2 weeks for your order to arrive? Really? and why would you think that you would get any special treatment compared to dozens of others here on SR that have left their story of long waits and bad communication?
Look, I don't care how long you think it should take for VMM to deliver -- that's not how long it takes. VMM is VMM, and he's always been this way. And, no matter how nervous I get about my current order with VMM, he always comes through in the end. Be prepared to wait a long time for delivery, or order elsewhere. Be prepared to FE, or order elsewhere. There are some other REALLY GREAT meth dealers here -- you have a choice.
Personally, I like VMM's product, and I *love* his prices. I will wait the extra week for the amount of BTC I am saving. And until I hit the 2 week mark (after FE, not after order date), I won't bother him with PMs. just sayin.
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^
This, can't beat the price. However after trying his product I must admit that I definitely WAS a bother looking back, I sent 2 PM's just yap yap yappin away about a future order, I was still high. Apologies. That's just meth for ya ;)
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Jimvisa, please message me on SR, so i can handle you if I already havent
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Jimvisa, please message me on SR, so i can handle you if I already havent
Answer my PM too please.
You told me they had been shipped already...but it seems it wasn't.
Just want my order, thanks.
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Jimvisa, please message me on SR, so i can handle you if I already havent
done
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I was aware of some delays and stuff before I ordered, I wasnt expecting a 3 days delivery. The problem is telling that the package is in the mail when it isn't....for almost a month.
That being said I had a PM this morning telling me that my package shipped express yesterday. I also have a pending order which he didn't processed. That sounds like a good thing to me because he's probably clearing some backlog before taking new orders. A scammer wouldve just process it right away...so I'm pretty confident VMM is honest, flooded with orders and need a little logistic maybe :)
I'll update my feedback and the forums when I receive it.
Peace !
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VMM,
Something it up with the road today, at least for now. Try decrypting this, Please... I was on there earlier and read you response but could not connect again to reply...
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I've been in contact with VMM about marking shipments in transit when they arent really in transit.
Everything should be calm/tweaked by the weekend.
:)
nomad bloodbath
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Good, Nomad. As heisenburg and now vortex know all too well, that is a huge pet peeve of mine.
Why is it that many vendors don't seem to understand that their customers would be much less likely to get pissed at them if they'd just be honest and forthcoming about any possible shipping delays?
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Why mark it as In Transit then? That's misleading and doesn't make your customers like you any more. The delivery address I use is miles away and I have to drive there every day after the 3 day mark after you marked as shipped. Thanks..
yeah the fuck? He sent me a message saying I have to finalize if I agree he'll mark it in transit or else he won't ship my order. He marks it in transit first forcing you to either finalize or wait with your coins held.
Excellent post! Both you Holly and anon!
I totally agree! Bad customer service!
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Its already started but everyone who finalized early and didn't received yet should switch their feedback to 1/5. We could always switch it back to 5/5 if things get solved.
That way it should trigger a warning to the people who are still buying and finalizing early.
There it is there! The power of the consumer! If we all played by SR buyers guild rules, there would be few negative posts here!
Doan chu tinx Babba Louie?
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To Vortexmilkman :
Please don't leave us. I see your fire sale listing, your fantastic track record, all the little fish going crazy for your meth fish food, and all of us finalizing early to get this awesome price. I guess if you pulled out now you would probably walk away with close to a million dollars. Probably retire in luxury with 10 sex slaves and a marble castle. Please stay with us for another year before you do this so you can have 1000 sex slaves and a solid gold castle :)
Thankyou and keep up the great work!
Now THAT was pathetic OldSchool! Please just shoot me if I EVER sound that desperate! My God man, it's just a chemical! I love it too, but NEVER put up with BS to have it!
Shrug?
How ever freedom of speech is our most wonderful of rights and I support you posting feelings here! Good Job OS!
Go stand in the corner now, lol
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Well that was an awesome derailment, can we stop kickin the dead goddam horse, bury or perhaps cremate it based on your own religious beliefs if applicable and get back to product and shipping reviews?
That's all I have to say, except I vote for burning the goddam horse..
Now THAT was funny X! i lIkE U! Lol!
K, no more horse, Lol!
Oh yeh, while we'er off subject (well I am anyway!) and the horse is being laid to rest; HOW COME I ONLY HAVE -4/karma?!!! ?
I specifically asked for more! I am trying for the Guinness Book of World Records for the person in SRFs with the most '-/karma's there are!
I'm sorry, I got to go again! That makes me laugh everytime I think about it! "-4/karma" HA HA HA HA HA!!!
aNd nOw tHe hOrSe?
Thank you X!
And thank you who ever you are, the spineless little chicken shit cyber bullier that dose bullshit like that! Thank you!
ROFLMAO!
ciao!
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If I'm up in here raising a fuss then you know some shit's gonna need changing and rearranging.
:)
nomad bloodbath
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If I'm up in here raising a fuss then you know some shit's gonna need changing and rearranging.
:)
nomad bloodbath
AMEN
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lol this reminds me of this one spongebob squarepants episode where spongebob and patrick pretend to be squidword cause its opposite day, and squidword is trying to sell his house. The real estate lady is like, "you're squidword and you're squidword and youre squidword, we're all squidword! Ahh.. good times
LMAOROTF! funny killer!
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lol this reminds me of this one spongebob squarepants episode where spongebob and patrick pretend to be squidword cause its opposite day, and squidword is trying to sell his house. The real estate lady is like, "you're squidword and you're squidword and youre squidword, we're all squidword! Ahh.. good times
LMAOROTF! funny killer!
I guess that was a few pages back because that's the first time I've read that, but I seriously just laughed out loud sitting here at my desk.
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I would like to nominate "the SpongeBob memory" to the SRF Post of 2012 list.
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Can anyone confirm they have received an order in the last couple days? VMM just asked me to FE. I do not like the recent behavior and the marking shipped when it isnt. I will ask to cancel my order/leave negative feedback if I dont get a better feeling about this.
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I've been waiting 3 weeks for my package, with no reply to PM's. I would be warey of VMM at this point. Won't be FEing any more orders...
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Can anyone confirm they have received an order in the last couple days? VMM just asked me to FE. I do not like the recent behavior and the marking shipped when it isnt. I will ask to cancel my order/leave negative feedback if I dont get a better feeling about this.
He has time to ask people to finalize but doesn't have time to answer PMs?
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don't finalize early with VTM...or anyone. his stuff is not that much better. he is slow and unresponsive. like someone mentioned....he is a meth dealer....you are a meth head. two very unstable situations.
SCADDABIT!
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I PM'd him asking him if I was supposed to finalize early and he became hostile and yelled at me saying he had already sent it out and for me not to finalize. I'll tell you when something comes.
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my package was marked "in transit" on March 18 and he just messaged me saying I should receive it by this weekend.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and will review when\if I received it.
I did not FE
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Wow this thread needs some klonopins.
BUNCH A TWeAKERS TWEaKING OUT,
Relax and smoke some bud guys.
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i need my crack mang or ima start shivin kunts
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I have no reason to believe that this is not the week everything gets worked out
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I'm no tweaker, I've never tried meth yet ( beside the times there was in coke and speed ). I smoke a lot of buds though !!
I guess a lot of you should receive their stuff today. He said I should receive mine before weekend and I'm in a country next to the US. I still have doubts but we'll see :)
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ordered yesterday, marked 'in transit' yesterday... didn't have to FE or sacrifice any virgins (bummer)... i think I've only ordered from VMM and the quality was worth the wait, even though I hate waiting...
0_o
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Better be some Tina in in the aftenoon because I'm 6 drinks deep at 10am.
o/O
nomad
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Better be some Tina in in the aftenoon because I'm 6 drinks deep at 10am.
o/O
nomad
I'm at work 3 bars in... Snore. It would have been faster to drive to their house. Ughhh.
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Slap your dick on a female and see if you can score some bathroom romps.
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Slap your dick on a female and see if you can score some bathroom romps.
Well that didn't work.... The "lady" ended up slapping me back with "her" dick. FAIL. lmfao
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No delivery from the milkman today, and I believe I'm on the same coast as him.
Looks like another disappointing day. :(
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Ordered for a 2nd time around and finalized on sunday, received today. Weight right on. Pretty good, pretty neat! ;) Judging by the effects its the same product too, mine was just a lil more crushed up this time, no complaints at all, feels good man. Fuckin A Okay!
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Ordered for a 2nd time around and finalized on sunday, received today. Weight right on. Pretty good, pretty neat! ;)
Must be a good day for you. :)
I finalized on March 20th and haven't received a thing.
There's still 2 more delivery days in the week though, so I hope I have an enjoyable weekend!
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^ Took 11 days with my first order, my guess is you'll get it by saturday. I better log off now or else I'll never shut the fuck up, be easy folks.
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My first order a while ago arrived in Kangaroo land around 2 weeks after being marked "in transit", exactly the same timing as another popular USA vendor..
It's coming up to 2 weeks now for the 2nd order and I've no doubt VMM took care of me the same way he did last time. I'm hoping auspost comes through with the goods on Friday (later today)'
I'm curious what sort of shipping time my fellow aussies have experienced with VMM and other USA vendors in general..
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First of all let me appologize to VMM. A few posts back I told people to watch out and not to order. I wouldn't say this anymore. It did take over 20 days for my order to arrive, but it arrived eventually. I wouldn't order from him if you are jonesing and need some fast, but I will order from him again in the future.
The fact of the matter is; He has had multiple thousands of btc of prefinalized btc that he could have easily walked away with a few times now. He has thus far always come back and made good on his promises, albeit not in a very timely fashion. The fact that he keeps coming back instead of turning scammer and running shows that he is an honest person, just not about when your package actually shipped.
He even more than made it up to me about the shipping issues and was fairly responsive in pms.
Stand up vendor.
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Delivery Final.
Dropped two very large shards in 3 hours ago and rocknrollin. :)
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Delivery Final.
Dropped two very large shards in 3 hours ago and rocknrollin. :)
when did you order? just curious :)
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The fact of the matter is; He has had multiple thousands of btc of prefinalized btc that he could have easily walked away with a few times now. He has thus far always come back and made good on his promises, albeit not in a very timely fashion. The fact that he keeps coming back instead of turning scammer and running shows that he is an honest person, just not about when your package actually shipped.
Man that's a really, really good point. I just may give the milkman another try
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Mine was on time today.
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I just got another successful VMM order.
We had a little bump (ha) last time and he reshipped to cover me at his expense.
He seems to have made up for the trouble (when he didn't have to and it was only lost time to me) this time around. Nice OW sack with some real nice shards that the postal service couldn't quite crush. I think I must owe him money now ;D
That said..... it didn't come by courier racing pigeon. It took a while.
But you know what? I got it, I never had to go anywhere I'd rather not, never deal with people I'd rather not and no one anywhere near here knows I have it.
And it was a great deal for SR even if if wasn't overweight.
I'm a happy customer.
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Outta curiosity how long was your wait and closer left or right.
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happy to hear all of this.. nothing but complements from me for the service i got. It was before the bump in the road.. RIGHT before. hes aces!
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I'd just like to remind everyone that has posted about not receiving/waiting on an order to be sure and update if you get your order! Or, for that matter, if you don't (but this probably will not be the case with VMM)- it's just common courtesy to both the milkman and other buyers!
Stay safe, stay high, friends!
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I received 1 of 2 orders I was expecting today . It always gets here eventually and the quality is consistent.
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Outta curiosity how long was your wait and closer left or right.
2 days to marked in transit and then 7 for delivery.
I'm about 500 mi away.
Would it like it faster? Yes. Would I like it consistently that way by everyone I do business with? Yes.
Do I perform like that in my business and personal affairs? Not always....not always.
I can overlook the delay if I expect it and don't send PM's twice a day badgering him into telling me something I want to hear. I'll just wait and know that it will come and if it doesn't he will make it right.
If I need it fast I'll make an offer for expedited shipping or try elsewhere. That elsewhere part doesn't always work either I have found.
If I want known quality and proven, if somewhat variable, delivery for excellent prices I'll order early from the Milkman.
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Glad to see my other fellow road travelers receiving today! It's been a long day but I didn't go overkill this time, still got more than enough for a proper session tomorrow ;) Still sorta high despite a fistful of benzos and various other downers, just tryin to get a FEW winks in before I get rollin again. I can't speak to those still waiting for more than 10-11 days, all I know is this time around, I'm easily happy with everything and i'll be back for more relatively soon :) I'm trying to shut up, I really am, best of luck to you folks, milky white goodness here and there all day. Not gonna IV again due to high acidity and some minor bruising that still remains at the injection site, but as I did not miss the shot, I attribute it to being a rig I've used once before. (yes, yes I know shame on me) Anyway, there's really not much crystal on the east coast here, and vmm's blows it away, so...keep the folks faith! When you least expect it and have given up all hope..you'll be happily surprised on a rainy day. Sorry, shutting up now, take care people!
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I know it sounds like cant make them happy no matter what but the new batch isn't last weeks batch.
I was told it was but it obviously isn't. Anyway I'll be done a day early good I got stuff to do this weekend anyway and opiates on the way. :)
Last weeks batch was the cream of the crop though.
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Anyone else receive their package today?
Still waiting for the mail/drug man today.
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Was told I'd see something before the weekend. Another day, another empty mailbox. :(
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For those that received their shipments yesterday, did you choose priority mail or standard first-class?
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Mine was Priority sir.
I know it sounds like cant make them happy no matter what but the new batch isn't last weeks batch.
I was told it was but it obviously isn't. Anyway I'll be done a day early good I got stuff to do this weekend anyway and opiates on the way. :)
Last weeks batch was the cream of the crop though.
In terms of effects I couldn't tell much difference, however sometimes the tail end of a hit left a very putrid taste in my mouth. It feels like the liquid rolled down into my mouth, but that wasn't the case, perhaps a different cut? Potency feels more or less the same to me give or take, also the product was more crystalline powder with way smaller shards than last time, however I think a lot was crushed in transit, they weren't packaged exactly the same. No complaints though, compared to anything around locally its just no contest.
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Another day, another disappointment...:(
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22nd day since finalization and now its the weekend again. All I can say is bummer.
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got mine today to the east coast. :)
i paid for first class around 10 days ago.
just for reference to others, did vortex send his shit in a baggie with some pot leaves on it?
i ordered a bunch of powders and just want to make sure this shit is the meth.
:-[
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Why is it only people on the east coast are receiving their shipments? Did VMM forget about the Westside?
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I've been waiting only about a week but was messaged by VMM early Wednesday that my order had shipped and will be here before the weekend. Nothing today, but tomorrow maybe. I'm not even excited about it anymore lol. Imma take this shit all the way to the resolution center!
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I got it today. It took 1 day to process and 3 days to get here. It smells like cat piss lol.
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Im east coast another day, no mail I know it will get here but its just so disappointing. its just like Christmas and you run to the Christmas trees and there's nothing under the tree except for bills.
Ordered on the 21st
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been waiting over 2 weeks, west coast, pretty disappointing so far, but im still expecting it to show up but the wait is a pain in my ass. I expected him to take a while but its still frustrating to see all these people get their orders before me and they ordered after me.
i will update when i receive the goods. hopefully it will be next week
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Nothing today. Been 28 days since the early finalize.
If he shipped around Tuesday like he said I'm expecting it at the beginning of next week....fingers crossed.
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Ordered the 12th, finalized the 17th. Truly believed Tina would be waiting for me today after this brutal week. I set myself up like this way too often. I usually enjoy the anticipation of receiving from the road, but this is just annoying. Not high, friends are out of town, time to call the local shitty H man.. A very poor Friday indeed. High hopes for Saturday though (pffff)!
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I'd just like to remind everyone that has posted about not receiving/waiting on an order to be sure and update if you get your order! Or, for that matter, if you don't (but this probably will not be the case with VMM)- it's just common courtesy to both the milkman and other buyers!
Stay safe, stay high, friends!
I guess I better chime in.... To be fair to vmm he was nothing but exemplary up until this time. between my gf and i (i am a chick) we had about 8 orders from him and they would hit on the third day after ordering like clock work and the shit was the bomb. We snort in and dance and party all night. This time it did not show and still has not and he even sent me a reply to my questions saying finally everything is cool and we will get it Friday at the latest. Dayuuum nothin in the box but luckily she bought of a local dude last night and it is ok shit. If his package shows up tomorrow or next week or in 2013 we are jumpin right back in his back pocket and give him another go. I dunno waz up with that lil dude but i know he is a good dude and something must really be fuckin him down ya know?
Hey, just out of curiousity, u gize think one of these accounts ever gets jacked by a mother fucker who jumps in and operates it for awhile and milks it? just food for thought and speculation but my galpal here thought of that and i thought oh fuck, fuck bitch that is nasty but fuck ya there is always a fuckwad out there somewhere tryin to buttfuck everyone aye?
lol just read my last paragrapho. this local meth is taking its toll, i dont talk like that but its fun to right now for some reason. in all seriousness though my thoughts and prayers are with the vortex milkerooney and i hope he comes back bigger and better then ever before and gets rich on here! :)
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Ordered the 12th, finalized the 17th. Truly believed Tina would be waiting for me today after this brutal week. I set myself up like this way too often. I usually enjoy the anticipation of receiving from the road, but this is just annoying. Not high, friends are out of town, time to call the local shitty H man.. A very poor Friday indeed. High hopes for Saturday though (pffff)!
I feel ya. I cam to the conclusion it may not be here for the weekend so I made another order as a fail safe from a different vendor around tuesday and talked to him to make sure he would get it out in time for the weekend. The 2nd vendor posted this today...
For those people who placed orders the last 4 days I'm sorry but your ETA will be a few days more than usual.
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It's been almost a week since I last posted. Sorry for the delay on the update. I do want to let everyone know that I did receive order the next day, and a little extra for the trouble. I will do repeat business with VMM, I'll just expect to FE.
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DubG knows what's up better than VMM. (:
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I got it today. It took 1 day to process and 3 days to get here. It smells like cat piss lol.
Yeah, it does kind of smell like cat piss...lol. This is my first experience with that type of smell, but it doesn't really smell like it when smoked. Just don't smell the stem. ;)
Just checking in...
I finally received my order from VMM after almost 2 weeks. He informed me Monday that I would receive it by the end of this week, but when Friday came around and nothing showed up, I started to wonder if it had been sent. It's totally understandable that my order might have got lost amongst the massive amount of other orders during his sale.
I sent him a message early Friday morning, and he informed me that he upgraded my shipping to priority and I would receive it today, and I did. He even made up for the delay by throwing in some extra weight. I guess I'm lucky our geographic location is close, or else this would have been a disappointing weekend for me.
Overall, I would still order from VMM. I would just place my orders a little sooner then when I actually need it.
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Received from VMM today! :) Three days before resolution. Just remember, if you need your shit quick, you might be better off with a diff vendor. Still VMM has always come through, but it's always marked shipped before it actually is and he won't often respond to pm's. Thanks VMM, and happy Saturday everyone!
Ps: nice fatty shards just like his pic, burning clean, and a mellow high 15 minutes in. Gonna be a good night...
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Alright, cheesepuffs and the dude above received today! Good to hear. Hopefully in less than 6 hours I can say the same baby! Feelin pretty good bout it.
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Glad everyone is getting theirs from VMM. I feel for me its just one lie after another as my mailbox was empty yet again. I only ordered the first time because he of course said it could get here before the weekend. Now I am past two weekends and still nothing. I even compensated for it being late and made another order through a different vendor only to find out on the day it was supposed to arrive that he hasn't sent anything in the past 4 days because he had to many orders.
Why do vendors make promises they no the cant fulfill. If you have to many orders and you know your backed up why would you say sure ill send it today? Why would you tell people that their package is sent when in reality it is not? The vendor then complains he has to many orders when in reality hes just telling everyone lies so they order.
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Still nothing, so bummed.
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Glad everyone is getting theirs from VMM. I feel for me its just one lie after another as my mailbox was empty yet again. I only ordered the first time because he of course said it could get here before the weekend. Now I am past two weekends and still nothing. I even compensated for it being late and made another order through a different vendor only to find out on the day it was supposed to arrive that he hasn't sent anything in the past 4 days because he had to many orders.
Why do vendors make promises they no the cant fulfill. If you have to many orders and you know your backed up why would you say sure ill send it today? Why would you tell people that their package is sent when in reality it is not? The vendor then complains he has to many orders when in reality hes just telling everyone lies so they order.
You might want to send him a message as a gentle reminder because I think some of the orders from 2 weeks ago got lost in the mix. VMM told me on Monday that I would receive it this week, but I knew when I didn't receive it on Friday, it probably wasn't sent. Since I knew I was in close proximity to him, I asked if he shipped it out? Within 5 hours, I got a message saying it was shipped priority and I'll get it today. So, for me, he kept good on his promise, but I don't think a gentle reminder asking when or if it was shipped would offend anyone.
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still nothing here. ordered on the 16th, "in transit" on the 20th.
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calm down peeps. VMM is trustworthy. He ain't gonna rip you off i dont think. I got my shit after 4 days...
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Yeah i am still waiting after four weeks as well. I had a previous order go well, so I am hoping to receive.
Sounds like a few people haven't received lately?
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Received my order today. 10 days after marked in transit. Wasn't even excited about the order anymore lol but glad it showed up and didn't have to go through the resolution center. Probably not a vendor I would finalize early (didn't have to this time) for if I ever order from him again unless I have to get a refund sometime (atm I have a 0% rating). Hope everything works out for everybody! Fingers crossed!
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I think the answer to all this hub bub about the week old orders is obvious. vortex sold out and was fE so he could reup and send out everyones orders.
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Just wondering if everyone's order from VMM's sale had a weird cat piss-like smell to it?
Not questioning potency, just smell. I've never come across this scent before with meth, but let me be the first to say that I'm not extremely educated in crystal methamphetamine. First time I tried it was over a decade ago, and haven't found a dealer since. I've been experiencing different batches of meth over the course of the last 2 months since I joined SR. It's definitely one of the reasons why I love this site so much. Variety is the spice of life! :D
Does anyone think this is the reason why it's on sale? Not instigating, just wondering. This is my first purchase with VMM, so I can't base anything off his earlier batches. If anyone can chime in on the smell and potency of his earlier batches, I would greatly appreciate it. I haven't come across a bag yet that had any sort of strong scent to it, besides this one. Is the smell normal?
The new pics he has up on his listings looks like a nice re-up, but has anyone tried it? and does it smell the same?
My mind is open to being educated if someone can explain the reason why it smells that way? :)
Please don't tell me it's just a chemical smell.
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I posted on the regular Meth review thread but figured I'd say something here real quick.
I have four days left until I either need to resolve the order or finalize it. The other day I was messaged by SR management telling me to finalize our resolve and then I got a message from VMM saying he thought he asked me earlier to finalize early (he did not) and told me I should receive my order by this weekend.
this was strange since the order was marked in transit since March 18 so I was surprised to hear it wasn't sent yet just a few days ago.
I was skeptical but decided to wait for the weekend and see. Friday, no package and now Saturday still no package. The weekend is pretty much done as far as mail delivery is concerned. As I said in the beginning, I have four days to finalize or resolve, so I'm going to try and wait to the last minute before I resolve or give up on getting my package. I honestly thought it would come today since a lot of others on the east coast received their orders but no such luck.
I really hope I don't have to resolve.
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exactly 2 weeks from my order I received. he shipped the 29th of march for west coast. im not gonna order again. quality is par
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Just wondering if everyone's order from VMM's sale had a weird cat piss-like smell to it?
Not questioning potency, just smell. I've never come across this scent before with meth, but let me be the first to say that I'm not extremely educated in crystal methamphetamine. First time I tried it was over a decade ago, and haven't found a dealer since. I've been experiencing different batches of meth over the course of the last 2 months since I joined SR. It's definitely one of the reasons why I love this site so much. Variety is the spice of life! :D
Does anyone think this is the reason why it's on sale? Not instigating, just wondering. This is my first purchase with VMM, so I can't base anything off his earlier batches. If anyone can chime in on the smell and potency of his earlier batches, I would greatly appreciate it. I haven't come across a bag yet that had any sort of strong scent to it, besides this one. Is the smell normal?
The new pics he has up on his listings looks like a nice re-up, but has anyone tried it? and does it smell the same?
My mind is open to being educated if someone can explain the reason why it smells that way? :)
Please don't tell me it's just a chemical smell.
im not a guru when it comes to the meth scene, but i have been around long enough to know it should not smell like cat piss...... is it shardy or powder?
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marsvolta12,
I ordered 1 gram and they were basically all shards.
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I am just going to chime in here. I have had my order from Vortex for about a week or two and mine smells sweet, almost like candy which I never expected. These have been my 1st few times smoking this shit and honestly I am not too impressed. For instance, I will take 10 hits off of foil and I will feel nice and awake, but no rush, no euphoria, no empathy, just increased alertness. After all the shit ive read about meth I thought it would have been much stronger.
PeacE
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I am just going to chime in here. I have had my order from Vortex for about a week or two and mine smells sweet, almost like candy which I never expected. These have been my 1st few times smoking this shit and honestly I am not too impressed. For instance, I will take 10 hits off of foil and I will feel nice and awake, but no rush, no euphoria, no empathy, just increased alertness. After all the shit ive read about meth I thought it would have been much stronger.
PeacE
I second that. Aside from yours smelling sweet and mine smelling something like animal urine, we seem to be experiencing the same effects. There was no rush or euphoria for me either, but I have been up and alert for the last 24 hours. :-\
Even with the cat-piss smell, I'll probably still be smokin' it all day. Fortunately, it doesn't smoke like cat-piss. But, I prefer the batches that have a very light chemical "meth" odor. I crave that smell!
Thelastremnant: Don't be discouraged, you will come across the perfect batch one day from a vendor that will knock your block off! That's the beauty of SR, you're not just limited to one vendor who has the same batch for months. I like to try a little from every reputable meth vendor (although they're starting to lack) and then make an informed decision on who has the best bang for the buck. It's unfortunate that some batches are hit or miss, but I guess that's the nature of the meth game.
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I was going to try his meth a few weeks back, put in a small order, it didn't get processed quickly, so I wrote and cancelled for a refund. He was the rudest vendor I've dealt with, thinking he's the big man on campus....hahaha The world wouldn't miss him...., or me for that matter!
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I am just going to chime in here. I have had my order from Vortex for about a week or two and mine smells sweet, almost like candy which I never expected. These have been my 1st few times smoking this shit and honestly I am not too impressed. For instance, I will take 10 hits off of foil and I will feel nice and awake, but no rush, no euphoria, no empathy, just increased alertness. After all the shit ive read about meth I thought it would have been much stronger.
PeacE
Bro, I can pretty much assure you you're not seeing the true potential of it's fx because of the foil/straw ur using. You will never get a full hit by this method because you'll also be inhaling too much excess air, which will dilute your hit. If you're not blowing out clouds of thick fog, this could be why. Are you blowing out fog or just thin, stretched out cotton candy kinda hits if you know what I mean?? You need a proper device, and I suggest if you're US to order one from vicious86. learn to use it properly which can be a bit tricky if u havent seen it done in person or taught, to be honest. just tryna help guide you along. drink lots of water on this stuff man.
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I am just going to chime in here. I have had my order from Vortex for about a week or two and mine smells sweet, almost like candy which I never expected. These have been my 1st few times smoking this shit and honestly I am not too impressed. For instance, I will take 10 hits off of foil and I will feel nice and awake, but no rush, no euphoria, no empathy, just increased alertness. After all the shit ive read about meth I thought it would have been much stronger.
PeacE
Bro, I can pretty much assure you you're not seeing the true potential of it's fx because of the foil/straw ur using. You will never get a full hit by this method because you'll also be inhaling too much excess air, which will dilute your hit. If you're not blowing out clouds of thick fog, this could be why. Are you blowing out fog or just thin, stretched out cotton candy kinda hits if you know what I mean?? You need a proper device, and I suggest if you're US to order one from vicious86. learn to use it properly which can be a bit tricky if u havent seen it done in person or taught, to be honest. just tryna help guide you along. drink lots of water on this stuff man.
good advice about water and proper smoking device. priscilla marie has a video in the drug safety forum about how to properly smoke it. it really is tricky, but once you get the hang of it, you will save so much by not burning your shit.
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Dreamer, you got what you wanted, a cancelled order....what is your problem?
I suggest you find some sort of hobby or job so you dont waste your time trolling vendors' threads in weak attempts to sully their name.
Funny how I can send over 100 pkgs off to be received by sat, and only about 3% of those bother to report the happennings online.
Of course, people will only come here to complain, very few to say anything positive.
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VMM i said it before and i will say it again. U opened the 1/2 g sale for me got 3 and had it in 3. Top notch...no complaints only praise from me and the friends i shared it with :)
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VMM you are a great vendor, but the only problem i have ever had is the long waiting period, and sometimes the packaging. other then that you are a great vendor in my books. in the end he has 95.9 positive rating out of ALOT more then 300 packages. i bet he did 300 alone that month that he was the one ruling the meth scene after everyone left. keep up the great work, but try to work on the shipping situation.
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In VMM I Trust..."
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As much as people get antsy with VMM and complain that they think they are not getting their package-- they always do! Patience, friends, patience!
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Dreamer, you got what you wanted, a cancelled order....what is your problem?
I suggest you find some sort of hobby or job so you dont waste your time trolling vendors' threads in weak attempts to sully their name.
Funny how I can send over 100 pkgs off to be received by sat, and only about 3% of those bother to report the happennings online.
Of course, people will only come here to complain, very few to say anything positive.
Guys read this post. It says soooooo much. vmm is in business. He does a good job. As with other industries the product or service provider hears negative feedback, rarely positive. vmm is a human being and I know for a fact that he is down deep a sweet lil bear. I dont know how I know this but I have picked it up osmosis from some of the msgs he has sent me and my cohorts. :) My last order never showed but that does not erase the fact that every other order I placed with him, my friends placed with him, which amounts to quite a few orders went picture perfect. Best service and best meth we ever had. I dont know wtf happened but I really truly do not hold vmm accountable and I am guessing that if vmm did not send to me he had his reasons and maybe he had me mixed up with someone or maybe he did indeed send and some way some how the order was snagged in the postal system. Those fuckers will and do snag shit. A few years ago back when oxy was easy as pie to order I had a Fed Ex oxy delivery come to me from a city known to be packed with sellers. The delivery showed up and I opened up the cardboard mailer and it was fucking empty. My bf ( i am a chick) took the envelope and put it under his shop/work light and we investigated it and that fucking fed ex bastard had slit the envelope open right at that seem and tapped it back together with super glue.
Maybe you are thinking so what, stop writing dumb shit lady. My point is dont hammer the vmm dude cuz he may not be, and probably is not, the cause of the late deliveries. Could be supplier, could be living/residence or place of operation complications, could be health related or could be mailman mailman burglers stealing our meth. vmm, if you out there reading this u stand tall.
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Funny how I can send over 100 pkgs off to be received by sat, and only about 3% of those bother to report the happennings online.
Of course, people will only come here to complain, very few to say anything positive.
VMM, I will be happy to sing your praises on here and in product feedback once I actually receive my order. You told me it went out over a week ago and would be here before the weekend and still I have received nothing. And now you won't respond to PMs. What happened?
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Received my VMM order today. 17 days since I placed order, 13 days since being marked in transit. VMM switched me to priority for free, and the bag was a bit over weight. Some nice size shards in there. Smokes nice, although I did not have a chance to smoke more than 2 hits as I have some things to do today. I detected none of the cat piss odor others have reported.
Every time it's in transit, I always get all impatient, but now that it's here I can guarantee I will use VMM again. The price is right, quality is always above average, and although shipping is not always as fast as it could be, it always comes through in the end.
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I love you VMM! got my order today and hot damn! instant hit, nice and euphoric and slight smell but really clean tasting drip... will try a smoke later. two thumbs WAY up! now I'm of to enjoy myself...
0_o
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Still waiting.
33 days.
I've used a lot of vendors, and none have kept me waiting like this. I appreciate the support he's getting from the odd happy customer on here, but delivery time is half the service and to be honest, I'm not even sure I'm going to see this package I finalized early on over a month ago.
Maybe that's the problem, here - why bother providing the service if the customer has finalized early?
Lesson learned.
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I was in a similar situation as the guy above... 28 days or something similar. Anyhow, I sent him a message on Saturday, and VMM got it to me today, Monday. It looks like way more than I ordered.
Yes, it sucks to be one of the few that get "lost in translation," but keep it in perspective, my kids extort more from me in allowance than what I paid VMM. I actually feel bad because he likely thought I was pissed. I sincerely hope the profit margins are huge, VMM, because I haven't a clue how you make any money doing what you did for me. Packaging.... I wish I could say, but my daughter says thanks, too!
I've made probably 40 transactions and never had one go bad. Word of advice, relax and breath deeply, all this unjustified shit talking will only drive him away. This is it for me, my only source.... I cannot buy on the streets - no one would sell to me, ha. Give him a break and remember, he's VMM not amazon.com with prime membership status.
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Ohhh I placed my first order and started to get worried. But if its normal no problem. The only question I have is I just have not been able to get any message from him nor has he given me the option to even finalize the order. If he just simply takes a while then i wont worry.
thanks!
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IF HE HAD TO WAIT FOR HIS COINS TO CLEAR WHEN ORDERS ARRIVE HE WOULD HAVE FAR MORE MOTORIZATION TO SEND ORDERS QUICKLY
Lol I think you mean motivation.
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lol yeah your right i changed it, stupid spell checker changed it :)
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Still nothing. Why did I finalize early? :(
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I finalized 17 days ago, i guess their was a mixup and they lost my order info after i had already FE'd per what vedor requested, nothing in the mail today, i hoping for tomorrow, i just wish i didn't have to go through this rehab thingLOL, I just wish tracking#'s were provided so when they say intransit you had some way of know this was true. my 2 cents, especially if they ask for FE
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Well the man VMM reappeared last week around this time. i hope the same happens today. I am curioous as to what is going on as he has gone silent again. My order is approaching 3 weeks now and I am still hoping to see it and make it right.
Counting on you VMM as all your long supports claim you will be good to your word. Hope it is not just nut hugging...I will be happy to once again com e to the forums and proclaim your great comeback as I did last time so not just complainers on here. Just when you finalize early you dont expect to wait wayyy past where you would have if it was in escrow. The onr package I received this week was only a half g not the 1.5 I hoping to get from you. and it had all trappings of Heisenburg.
Hilly
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An update !
After 1 month I finally had a strange letter in the mail. It seems that it had some troubles with the sorting machines as it was almost open on 2 sides and someone couldve easily look inside. Not VMM's fault though.
It's 0.05 overweight and its mostly little shards. I dont know much about meth and I won't smoke it...its just to replace the random speed pills that contains various crap and some meth anyway, I'll make my own in gelcaps :)
So VMM, thanks for sending the stuff. I've updated my 1/5 to 5/5 and if i get addicted I'll order more ;)
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smoking it is way better mate, if u aint got a pipe use foil and a straw and keep flame far away from foil and slowly bring it closer until meth melts in to a puddle and then let it run down the foil and chase the white smoke! eatting it only gives like 50% smoking 95% and iv 100%
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snort it up! The burn..... a blast ~ the drip...... yummy!
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In fact eating it is close to 100% absorption, right next to IV. It just takes a while to kick in.
I have no doubt its less fun than smoking but I just want to replace the speed pills i used to have, good way to get shit done once in a while. I know they contains meth anyway.
I have an addictive personality, a few addictions and a pretty serious life....starting to smoke meth isn't a good idea for me.
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dont even bother ordering this shit even if its on sale. its cut or got some acetone in it still that if you smoke it more than 6 hours straight makes you feel like you got gastro. im not tryin vmm again..
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Everyone, glad to hear a bunch of you backlogged orders that was settled are finally in!
To the rest of you downtalking me, you need to really watch your mouth and understand this isnt some legal ebay shit..this is a serious game I'm in and I fulfilled all pending orders except for one last wave of people...maximum 20 diff people who have yet to receive due to a huge security threat that occurred over teh weekend literally hours after the last shipout occurred.
I will explain soon, but I have shut down shipping from Friday, and the sale is still going (which is the same high grade stuff btw) until tomorrow-ish.
I have NOT finalied anyone since then and I have NOT marked ANYone in transit, so im not stealing shit.
I have over 140 unread msgs and i have not been online till just yesterday.
I had some relocating to do and major upgrades in security to prevent very very bad things that nearly put all pending orders at risk and the whole operation.
Everything is PERFECT now, and am glad as my operation is scaled up and more secure than ever.
I will post a detailed msg soon, and request info from a certain amount of finalized members so I can fulfill everyone who hasnt received yet.
I am never going to scam or leave you guys!
Just4Drugs....pm me without your sarcastic demeaning tone, and I can see if i can sort out something that doesnt make you feel like death.
Strange, but everyone is diff, and you are the 1st one to report such effects.
All is well in the land of the Vortex, SAFETY FIRSt.
V
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Thank you for the update. Safety is always paramount and first. Please forgive my impatience I have to re evaluate my recent fondness for your great product.
Hilly
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Vortex Glad u are back up and runnin' U always did right by me!
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safe for the update vortex...i can say i have had an order in processing since friday so i can say he has not asked me to finalize so true to his word in his msg... and as im new to SR i was worried if the order had gone a miss or something but this update explains and hopefully V's operation can now flourish and i can get my hands on that shiiiit!! :)
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Good to hear from you VMM. Thanks for keeping us informed, I look forward to my order :)
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smoking it is way better mate, if u aint got a pipe use foil and a straw and keep flame far away from foil and slowly bring it closer until meth melts in to a puddle and then let it run down the foil and chase the white smoke! eating it only gives like 50% smoking 95% and iv 100%
You forgot Hot Rails, Mate. They are the way of the future.
1.)Crush it up real fine snorting.
2.)Get your trusty chicken bone and smash the bowl off of it.
3.)Now heat the tube somewhere close to the END AWAY FROM YOUR NOSE, until it is red hot.
4.)Snort the powder from the line.
5.)When successful you will exhale a cloud of smoke just like smoking it.
6.)If you fuck up you will have a blister in your nasal cavity, normally up and over the inner bridge of your nose.
Better than smoking old school style. Definitely a technique for the BRAVE @ Heart.
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I second the hotrails. You can actually order small pyrex tubes off of amazon for cheap that are perfect. Or... So I've heard.
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I have about 40 of those stupid little glass tubes you guys could have, lmao.. I have no use for them and I wasn't able to sell them..
I'm glad to hear you're still around, VMM.
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Everyone, glad to hear a bunch of you backlogged orders that was settled are finally in!
To the rest of you downtalking me, you need to really watch your mouth and understand this isnt some legal ebay shit..this is a serious game I'm in and I fulfilled all pending orders except for one last wave of people...maximum 20 diff people who have yet to receive due to a huge security threat that occurred over teh weekend literally hours after the last shipout occurred.
I will explain soon, but I have shut down shipping from Friday, and the sale is still going (which is the same high grade stuff btw) until tomorrow-ish.
I have NOT finalied anyone since then and I have NOT marked ANYone in transit, so im not stealing shit.
I have over 140 unread msgs and i have not been online till just yesterday.
I had some relocating to do and major upgrades in security to prevent very very bad things that nearly put all pending orders at risk and the whole operation.
Everything is PERFECT now, and am glad as my operation is scaled up and more secure than ever.
I will post a detailed msg soon, and request info from a certain amount of finalized members so I can fulfill everyone who hasnt received yet.
I am never going to scam or leave you guys!
Just4Drugs....pm me without your sarcastic demeaning tone, and I can see if i can sort out something that doesnt make you feel like death.
Strange, but everyone is diff, and you are the 1st one to report such effects.
All is well in the land of the Vortex, SAFETY FIRSt.
V
dude these kinds of updates are awesome, massive thumbs up
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Thanks for the update! I guess I must be one of the 20 that didn't ship.. Ordered 3/12, finalized 3/17. Received a message a week ago saying my order was in the air, but nothing yet. Assuming it even gets here before the weekend, its absurd to receive 3 weeks after finalization. Despite the cool sale price, this sack will have to be pretty heavy to justify going through this relentless waiting again. I'll be impatiently awaiting further communication, but am glad the kinks are ironed out!
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Everyone, glad to hear a bunch of you backlogged orders that was settled are finally in!
To the rest of you downtalking me, you need to really watch your mouth and understand this isnt some legal ebay shit..this is a serious game I'm in and I fulfilled all pending orders except for one last wave of people...maximum 20 diff people who have yet to receive due to a huge security threat that occurred over teh weekend literally hours after the last shipout occurred.
I will explain soon, but I have shut down shipping from Friday, and the sale is still going (which is the same high grade stuff btw) until tomorrow-ish.
I have NOT finalied anyone since then and I have NOT marked ANYone in transit, so im not stealing shit.
I have over 140 unread msgs and i have not been online till just yesterday.
I had some relocating to do and major upgrades in security to prevent very very bad things that nearly put all pending orders at risk and the whole operation.
Everything is PERFECT now, and am glad as my operation is scaled up and more secure than ever.
I will post a detailed msg soon, and request info from a certain amount of finalized members so I can fulfill everyone who hasnt received yet.
I am never going to scam or leave you guys!
Just4Drugs....pm me without your sarcastic demeaning tone, and I can see if i can sort out something that doesnt make you feel like death.
Strange, but everyone is diff, and you are the 1st one to report such effects.
All is well in the land of the Vortex, SAFETY FIRSt.
V
Glad I did some research before sending a message after getting impatient after waiting all day with no reply or status change. ;) I didn't realize how many orders you process! Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
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Thanks for the update! I guess I must be one of the 20 that didn't ship.. Ordered 3/12, finalized 3/17. Received a message a week ago saying my order was in the air, but nothing yet. Assuming it even gets here before the weekend, its absurd to receive 3 weeks after finalization. Despite the cool sale price, this sack will have to be pretty heavy to justify going through this relentless waiting again. I'll be impatiently awaiting further communication, but am glad the kinks are ironed out!
I'm in the same boat here. I hope I see something soon.
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FE 25 days ago... Just got a message saying he sent it last week. Usually takes like 2 weeks to get to this corner of the world from the US. Sigh.....
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after thinkin about what i said, i realise it may have been a bit unfair. i understand how much stress vmm would be after making 200+ orders in like 2 weeks. going through a couple of ounces of meth there's bound to be some inconsistences in the quality as said by other users as well but for the price you cant ask for anything better... well maybe cept the fact that it made me feel terribly ill but minus that it woulda been a top shit hot experience lol
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did u have had a dirty hit. have u had one before? or do u just smoke it.
ive had about 13 ppl use all shooters and they all say good shit.
the time it took was a wait. i stressed out abit not on here (forums)
pm ,d VMM and i could tell he was flat out by the short answers.
anyway all is good he is a man of his word and everyone who used the shit loved it.
the man done the righty put extra for being late. i was late late like stress late.
thankx VMM and SR keep up the good work hope u stay safe. (cops)..
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Another day down, I feel like were in a Ponzi Scheme for some reason. This is why I and probably others remain suspicious. Ive wrote him numerous times and every time this weekend or I had issues this is the real weekend its gonna come or security issues so I cant get it out, that is if he writes you back as I have a 5 day old message he still hasnt looked at. Ive blatantly asked since he still hasn't shipped although hes said he has for numerous different times as we have seen was a lie, I asked could I please just have a refund.
Why not a refund Vortex? I don't want extra BTC or extra product I just want what I am out even though you still say you are shipping. Wouldn't it be better if you just refunded me and it would be a lot less for you to worry about? I don't even care about the product anymore.
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I received a PM from VMM saying to resend my addy and order info, I've used the old PGP key just in case... I hope all is above board...
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thank you for the update vortex, none of us are bad mouthing you we are all just getting fed up of waiting! its good to hear you have fixed your problems you have been having.
and just to let everyone else know i also got a pm of vmm last night asking for addy ect so he is sorting things out and trying to get your orders out! just give him a little time :)
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It is good to hear that some buyers are hearing from VMM. Personally I wish I would something anything..3 weeks and running and now 3 messages to him short and kindly written even confined to simple plea in the title to save him from actually opening it to read it are going unopened and unanswered. Totally understand the shear volume and hard work to keep this going.
Hilly
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I got the same message. I resent the info, pgp encrypted. I can post update when I have one.
I don't know why it would be a scam. Since he's been requiring FE with this sale all he would need to do is just take the shit and run. No further contact needed.
As far as LEO impersonating? IMO, I don't see a federal agency targeting the end user.
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I also have the PM asking for the adress again....with a new PGP.
I'm confused. I had one order which i FE and was 1 month late...that one I received.
I had another order which is "in transit" since about a week. Meanwhile VMM came here and said he stopped switching orders to "in transit" before it is actually shipped. So either VMM is confused and sent me that PM by mistake or he lied and my "in transit" order isn't really shipped.
I'll wait a couple of days to see if it come or not.
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Do you guys even know the lengthts I went through to protect all your addys, and sensitive info?
This is why there are up to 25 (estimating) pending orders that wouldve been there by now, had it not been for a a couple unexpected occurrences to my associates that nearly threatened all of your orders and my supply and more.
I am asking all those who were and were not asked to finalize and order is marked in transit to PM me if they havent got a personal message on SR from me directly explaining the hold up and that I request the order info and shpiping addy since I sacrificed my old machine as a safety precaution.
Rather that, thatn have all your order info in the hands of some rat bastards, right?
I cant say too much, but rest assured, most would give up and flee with the money that is left...instead i decide to lose money on fulfilling my word and the pending list of orders.
I have a new PGP as the old one is a security risk now.
This new PGP should be the only one in use.
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Do you guys even know the lengthts I went through to protect all your addys, and sensitive info?
This is why there are up to 25 (estimating) pending orders that wouldve been there by now, had it not been for a a couple unexpected occurrences to my associates that nearly threatened all of your orders and my supply and more.
I am asking all those who were and were not asked to finalize and order is marked in transit to PM me if they havent got a personal message on SR from me directly explaining the hold up and that I request the order info and shpiping addy since I sacrificed my old machine as a safety precaution.
Rather that, thatn have all your order info in the hands of some rat bastards, right?
I cant say too much, but rest assured, most would give up and flee with the money that is left...instead i decide to lose money on fulfilling my word and the pending list of orders.
I have a new PGP as the old one is a security risk now.
This new PGP should be the only one in use.
Ive sent a message about receiving refund and not wanting to send my info again. Could I please just have a refund? I'm not trying to be a dick it just been a lot of its shipped, it hasn't, it has, it hasn't. I would really just like a refund and feel that is not a crazy request judging by the last 3 weeks.
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I didn't know we were supposed to encrypt our address in the order form, it just says enter your name like you would on a letter. I assumed that it would be secure, now I'm like fuck.
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OK buster, you got it, sorry i didnt attend to your request earlier!
V
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Vortexmilkman is a liar.
He claimed in a message to me three weeks ago:
expect it next week, i already handled this order myself over the week right before we paused shipping to catch up. I actually sent extra as agreed to make up for the delay.
Then after a week of ignoring me, he finally responds:
my associates and I were at risk and things had to be done that resulted in a shipping lapse and loss of recent shipping info...I am prepared to still fulfill your order, however I need your shipping info again and tx# or order info.
Prior to this its been a host of other excuses.
I don't care that this vendor satisfies a handful of his friends, those outside his inner circle do not recieve their product or recieve poor quality goods.
This vendor is a scammer, I have reported him to SR Fraud Prevention.
AVOID HIM AT ALL COSTS.
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Fuck, ugh..
Edit:
Look y'all, this is going nowhere fast. If everybody keeps ganging up on him, the chance that he'll just say fuck it and walk, are getting greater and greater. I'm not sticking up for him, I'm just saying that I see the situation deteriorating because what's happening in this thread, regardless of what has and has not been delivered. I have money tied up with him too, so I'm with ya.
VMM, it sounds like you've had a hell of a time as of late, and found yourself busier than fuck trying to quench a market that has historically been unquenchable for even the biggest players (not talking about SR, just in general). These day's meth is more in demand than cocaine, so it stands to reason that if have good product priced reasonably you're gonna be so busy that around the clock is your only option. These fucking coins aint cheap or easy to get and people hate to lose their money or even have it tied up. Plus the stuff in this thread is whipping everyone into a frenzy, even me. Just stick it out and get it all sorted out, please. I won't lie, though. I'm a bit worried that you've had a brush with leo and I didnt encrypt my address, wont happen again.
For the rest of us, I am going to assume that he got in over his head. Didn't expect it was going to be as hard as it has become. With the volumes that have been claimed so far I think it would be easy to confuse one person with another and say that shipment was done, when it had not been. Also, if he's doin his own candy to keep going through long work hours AND getting over a brush with you know who, it also stands to reason that he could be fucking up from being mentally overwhelmed.
I'm gonna give the guy the benefit of the doubt and hope I'm right. We should all try to be as patient and understanding as we can to improve the chances of resolving this quickly.
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I happen to agree with Hatedpatriot. althout I too have been impatient and especially a whiner when my supply went dry like any crazy tweaker. I have had time to calm down and reflect. This SR business is not easy and the shear volume that vMM has has to be insane. Any andI mean any bump in the road puts the poor guy so far behind it is daunting to climb the damn mountain and mean while some one is adding to the top of the hill everyday. VMM has always had great product with some variation but has always been generous in weights. If I am honest and remember my youth as a dealer it was easy to simply shut it down when things got too crazy.
At this point I retract anything shitty I may have posted or even critical since by now it is painfully obvious he has taking the harder way to make it right. I applaud and want to support this vendor. Thanks for keeping safe and keeping going on. His long standing and serving this meth segment should at least buy VMM some real slack here. I too have paid up front and once past the crazy craving for the meth realize the gravity and difficulty in keeping everyone happy. Never going to happen and I personally am a crabby ass old Hillbilly. My hat is off to you sir for all you are doing.
Peace
Hilly
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Well I'll let you crawl up his ass to get your order, I'll be reporting him to SR Fraud Prevention and demanding a full refund.
Being overwhelmed by orders is one thing. Downright lying is another.
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Monroe, you're a fucking fool...and for what I went thru, your rude, disrespectful claims, make me not want to even speak with your kind...
I dont have to lie, you asshole, i can just leave.....noones holding a gun to my head...i dont gotta make good on anything if i was planning to leave.
you are a complete fool.....yes i messaged that i had normal delays earlier....but now its beyond delays and shit and im talking about my entire operation being at risk..and youre calling me a liar?
well fuck you
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And for those who havent received, leaving 1s, isnt helping the situation either......everyone (besides monroe) should expect quick, courteous responses, and once you supply me with the missing info I can go ahead and get all pending orders handled.
Everyone is being sorted....there arent too many left who havent received.
And if i was a liar, why are most of the orders pending for those who i never asked to finalize?
......monroe....you might wanna learn what the word empathy means, and also learn to think outside of your selfish little world and understand there are bigger things in my world that affect my LIFE.......my LIFe is more important than your demands and from the looks of it, im glad i didnt waste any time or risk my life for your ungrateful ass.
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Vortex is working with me to get a refund. Is he a scammer? I doubt it. He is working to make it right and that is what matters to me. As long as a refund comes I am happy. Monroe he is right he could have bailed I think he will still make it right with everyone.
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Yeah at this point I think I'd take a refund, too. I don't really want to bother him though.
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Hey Pricilla you do the pet meds right? I might have to use some meth money to get some stuff for my dog its flea and worm and starts with a c I believe.
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I am of the opinion that if he was a scammer, he'd have taken the chance he just had and disappeared. I feel for the guy, I think he really wants to do right, but is overwhelmed. You tweakers are fucking harsh lol. I have never done meth, that's the only drug I have never tried. I figured fuck it, the price was right for a small bag and he seemed to have some okay reviews here. He didn't ask for FE, so I figured I have nothing to lose. I would never claim non delivery and withhold if I did get it. I know how that feels. I know people got my packages, they just didn't want to pay.
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VORTEX MILK MAN IS NOT A SCAMMER! Lmao.
Hey Pricilla you do the pet meds right? I might have to use some meth money to get some stuff for my dog its flea and worm and starts with a c I believe.
Yep, that would be me. Just let me know what I can do for you. :)
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VORTEX MILK MAN IS NOT A SCAMMER! Lmao.
Hey Pricilla you do the pet meds right? I might have to use some meth money to get some stuff for my dog its flea and worm and starts with a c I believe.
Yep, that would be me. Just let me know what I can do for you. :)
For you... He's clearly fucking a lot of people.
Personally, all those worried about him leaving the "scene," I hope he does. The word "professionally is tossed around here far too much. I don't care if you're momma is dying... A real professional takes care of BUSINESS first! This is why he's a drug dealer... he's not a businessman. Do your job jack ass, and as far as I am concerned, get the fuck out of here. You fuck with Monroe like he's wrong..... YOU'RE wrong! Business does not worry about mommies..... Professionals do not worry about cancer. Professionals are fucking professionals. There are far too many dip shits around here. Did Steve Jobs whine about having Cancer? Nope, he fucking worked! Do your job.
All these douche bag tweaks might be used to getting fucked in the ass, but some of us are not. Do your job. How hard is it to put some crystal in a fucking bag, add a stamp, then put it in the mail box? Rocket Science? I think not.... Send the shit. If you cannot handle the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen.... I'm sick of your bullshit. Quit smoking your product.....
Professional... my ass.
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I'm so pissed at you... I suggest this. I'll make, and I suggest other, order your pathetic .25 amounts. And then tank your rating until you leave. You're a liar. I'll spend a grand just to fuck you over.... Yea, this is an open maket, and you need to leave the market. You fail.
I'd love to bitch slap you... 37 days..... fuck that. Too many retarded drug addicts. One day you're going to find someone that is far more smarter than you. Guess what, you found him. Clear your debts.
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You are making yourself look foolish.
I agree he has turned into a crappy vendor, and before this happened even I didn't care for him, because I messaged him twice and got zero response, and am glad I did, because I couldn't deal with his lazy long over due shipping.
Hopefully he gets back on track though.
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uhm, so when a vendor says security issue and can't elaborate immediately it might be a good idea to let them work through the issue.
vmm is pretty old school from my point of view, so i'd give him the leeway to go as long as he needed to get security straightened out and resume ops. individual circumstances not taken into consideration in the posting of this comment and i do not endorse bitching, whining, or unreasonable complaining. this message brought to you by methamphetamine's.
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nicely put.. after all...safety is first....orders second....
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Both bitching posts made by brand new posters... you guys (probably one person) carry a lot of weight here don't ya!
It IS a free market, so why would you waste your cash on a vendor you do not want to deal with, go to another one!
Or if you know what it takes to be a "professional" put up a vendor account or STFU!
After talking so much shit on these forums, do you really think the other established Meth vendors are going to want to service you?
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Lol, what a bunch of ungrateful people.
And to think Im risking my life for you all?
Haha, if theres ever a time I ever thought about leaving this community its now.
Keep pushing me
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I don't think there is any question that Fuk_This is a puppet account for this person to complain anonymously. Plus, the shit smacks of a drug addicted rage. If having your drugs are that critical, Fuk_This, you should secure a face connect somewhere in your hood. I seriously hope this dude comes back strong as so fuck people have to eat their words. I get people's frustration, but as VMM said, some of you lack empathy and thats a terrible thing. I would certainly rather him be careful as to not endanger himself or any of us with leo than rush into something to get a little quarter bag to a whinny tweaker.
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Lol, what a bunch of ungrateful people.
And to think Im risking my life for you all?
Haha, if theres ever a time I ever thought about leaving this community its now.
Keep pushing me
Hnag in there, dude. The ones acting so selfishly in this thread are probably young and don't know any better. Handle your business, mang. Ignore all the static.
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Ive sent a message about receiving refund and not wanting to send my info again. Could I please just have a refund? I'm not trying to be a dick it just been a lot of its shipped, it hasn't, it has, it hasn't. I would really just like a refund and feel that is not a crazy request judging by the last 3 weeks.
Please VortexMilkMan, i want a refund now too.
i dont want to give one more time my information now.
i prefer wait 1 or 2 mounth for the situation stabilised.
i m waiting the refund.
thank you
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You are making yourself look foolish.
Really, in front of whom? Give me a break, do you really think I give a shit what you or anyone else thinks? Further, you agree with me. So shut the fuck up.
uhm, so when a vendor says security issue and can't elaborate immediately it might be a good idea to let them work through the issue.
If he has security issue, then why does he continue to create listings and take orders? His security issues are farcical. He’s listing shit he does not have, and needs the coins to purchase it. Seriously, security issues? “Jesus….. yea, the cops are watching but I’ll still have an 8-ball special this Friday.” Discredited.
Heisenburg, you’re a model of consistency. VMM is a model of a tweaker using his product.
nicely put.. after all...safety is first....orders second...
Your name is apropos. Again, if it’s a safety issue, I’m cool with that. But it’s not. He has told me its been shipped. Where is the security issue? The only security issue I came come up with are the auditory hallucinations in his head.
Both bitching posts made by brand new posters... you guys (probably one person) carry a lot of weight here don't ya!
Great work – you deserve an award: Master of the obvious. Your 60+ post make as reputable as me….
It IS a free market, so why would you waste your cash on a vendor you do not want to deal with, go to another one!
Look Einstein, argue your lack of knowledge about capitalism to someone that lacks an education. Laissez-faire is not the issue here. The fucker is taking orders, during alleged security issues, and coming up with lame excuse after excuse. Solution – REFUND the money.
After talking so much shit on these forums, do you really think the other established Meth vendors are going to want to service you?
I don't think there is any question that Fuk_This is a puppet account for this person to complain anonymously.
Oh my gawd…. are you this stupid? Your Sherlock-like abilities figured out that this is an anonymous account, yet then continue with “other established Meth vendors are going to want to service you?” Brilliant…..
The ones acting so selfishly in this thread are probably young and don't know any better.
Give me a break – it’s the opposite, the ones accepting every lame excuse this dipshit comes up with are “young and don’t know any better.”
Empathy? WTF are you talking about? Don’t use words you do not understand. I suggest a dictionary.
Lol, what a bunch of ungrateful people.
And to think Im risking my life for you all?
Haha, if theres ever a time I ever thought about leaving this community its now.
Keep pushing me.!
FUCK YOU! You’re a thief and a liar. Frame the question correctly: you’re risking your “life” for the money – not for “us.”
Consider this a push. How much more of a push do you need? No worries, we will not be doing “business” together again.
Are you going to threaten us with the police? You’ve had your chances…. SR needs to step up with the Quality Control.
Here is the question to all you VMM dick suckers: if he has security issues, why is he still taking orders? He has new listing as of Friday. Solution is very easy. Refund ALL the money you have taken. I’ll never order from you again, so if you disappear, great.
Risking your life…. ha-ha…. you have got to be kidding me. You are so full of shit. Like I said, it’s not rocket science: place crystals in bag, add an address and stamp, and mail.
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i do not endorse bitching, whining, or unreasonable complaining. this message brought to you by methamphetamine's.
It's methamphetamine - not "methamphetamines," and it's especially not "methamphetamine's." Failing simple grammar undermines your credibility. Do what you do best, sell drugs. You're not qualified to diagnosis why someone is angry.
I just want my money back...
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It's methamphetamine - not "methamphetamines," and it's especially not "methamphetamine's." Failing simple grammar undermines your credibility.
:facepalm
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For you... He's clearly fucking a lot of people.
Personally, all those worried about him leaving the "scene," I hope he does. The word "professionally is tossed around here far too much. I don't care if you're momma is dying... A real professional takes care of BUSINESS first! This is why he's a drug dealer... he's not a businessman. Do your job jack ass, and as far as I am concerned, get the fuck out of here. You fuck with Monroe like he's wrong..... YOU'RE wrong! Business does not worry about mommies..... Professionals do not worry about cancer. Professionals are fucking professionals. There are far too many dip shits around here. Did Steve Jobs whine about having Cancer? Nope, he fucking worked! Do your job.
All these douche bag tweaks might be used to getting fucked in the ass, but some of us are not. Do your job. How hard is it to put some crystal in a fucking bag, add a stamp, then put it in the mail box? Rocket Science? I think not.... Send the shit. If you cannot handle the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen.... I'm sick of your bullshit. Quit smoking your product.....
Professional... my ass.
^ This. You dumb asses say silk road isn't walmart or amazon, well no shit, but we aren't getting freebies here either. Scummy drug dealers like VMM reinforce the stereotype that silk road users are fiends, junkies, criminals and lowlifes. You can't stay sober long enough to take care of business, then wonder why people don't trust you, call you manipulator, keep putting your deadbeat ass in detention, court, or prison, and make the rest of us hope to God our kids don't get a taste of whatever it is you think is to blame for your history of poor decisions in life. If you acted like an alcoholic loser like this paranoid tweaker vendor you're defending, serving your bullshit and borrowing money from well-intentioned but unlucky people around you, I'd personally get on the 12 step bandwagon and demand an intervention to shut your dirty drug addict ass down. How much different would the world be if responsible, driven people sold controlled substances, instead of lazy, good for nothings like a certain meth dealer who seems incapable of taking down his listings when he gets behind on orders, even as he's feeding a line of bullshit to all his customers with outstanding questions and unfulfilled promises. Mark my words, VMM is an Italian Pilot, George Jung, or Cantfeelmyface in the offing. Maybe he really is a good guy, but sometimes good people do bad things, and I see all the signs that VMM is headed to Scammertown, if he isn't already there, parked right outside the police station in fact, where they're wiring him up for sound, cause he's about to turn snitch on your sorry eejuts. You unfortunate sons and daughters of prostitutes who are resending him your addresses, be prepared, cause this time you really may get that dreaded knock on the door, and the cuffs slapped on you in front of your neighbors, roommates and pets. Do you think your dog or cat would want to lick your face after that? Your dog's butthole would be higher up on his to do list, I would imagine.
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Both bitching posts made by brand new posters... you guys (probably one person) carry a lot of weight here don't ya!
It IS a free market, so why would you waste your cash on a vendor you do not want to deal with, go to another one!
Or if you know what it takes to be a "professional" put up a vendor account or STFU!
After talking so much shit on these forums, do you really think the other established Meth vendors are going to want to service you?
keep kissing ass, worker bee. Brown-nosers like you are why Bernie Madoff kept getting away with his bullshit for decades, because everyone's too afraid to speak their mind, ask direct questions, refuse to take bullshit answers, and you servile, unquestioning sheeple are simply too chicken to rock the boat by saying the obvious: VMM has no clothes, because the guy is an unreliable scamming fuck. VortexMilkMan doesn't sell meth, he sells excuses, and you dumbfucks keep buying it.
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Awesome! I have a clone!
To those that claim he is having security issues, where does it say:
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This is for people who need just a .25g but want to experience the sale price.
V!
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT!
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It's methamphetamine - not "methamphetamines," and it's especially not "methamphetamine's." Failing simple grammar undermines your credibility.
:facepalm
This
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It's methamphetamine - not "methamphetamines," and it's especially not "methamphetamine's." Failing simple grammar undermines your credibility.
:facepalm
This undermines credibility more than anything.... "facepalm"? What are you 12? I bet you think I'm wrong....
Point is, I am developing a theme... the theme is we are getting fucked, but most of you are too stupid to realize it. And SR does not give a shit. I swear, I'm going to order $1000 worth of his .25 bags of shit, FE, and tank his rating to 80%. But, the tweakers would still find a reason to buy from him.
This fucker needs to go.
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I'll withhold comment on vmm, but you appear to be the expert on undermining credibility. I hope English isn't your native language.
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I seriously hope this dude comes back strong as so fuck people have to eat their words.
You "hope" he comes through? Wow, this is a strong endorsement for VMM. I "hope" global warming is solved. I do not "hope" that I get something I paid for.
I get people's frustration, but as VMM said, some of you lack empathy and thats a terrible thing.
Empathy for what? Are you suggesting that people be empathetic to his blatant thievery?
I would certainly rather him be careful as to not endanger himself or any of us with leo than rush into something to get a little quarter bag to a whinny tweaker.
Show me one reference to LEO or security issues? You're a blind idiot. The truth of the matter is, I don't want my drugs..... thus, I'm not a tweaker. I want my money. You're the stupid tweaker that blindly follows a thief that concocts the most ridiculous lies, I've heard, and still thinks he's good.
At least he could be creative, I love a good laugh, but this is stupid.
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I'll withhold comment on vmm, but you appear to be the expert on undermining credibility. I hope English isn't your native language.
Hope does seems to be the common theme in this thread. My prolixity coupled with disgust and lack of proof reading may have produced a few typographical errors, but I'll gladly "learn ya'll sum English."
Wait, my creditability is at issue because of a few grammatical errors? Therefore, VMM is 100% legit. Mind making the connection? You are the king of syllogistic logic.
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It's methamphetamine - not "methamphetamines," and it's especially not "methamphetamine's." Failing simple grammar undermines your credibility.
:facepalm
This undermines credibility more than anything.... "facepalm"? What are you 12? I bet you think I'm wrong....
Point is, I am developing a theme... the theme is we are getting fucked, but most of you are too stupid to realize it. And SR does not give a shit. I swear, I'm going to order $1000 worth of his .25 bags of shit, FE, and tank his rating to 80%. But, the tweakers would still find a reason to buy from him.
This fucker needs to go.
I'm not the brightest guy but if someone ripped me off say 50 for .5 or 100 for 1.0, I definitely wouldn't spend another $1000 to tank his ratings that would be retarded.
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I'm not the brightest guy
I appreciate your honesty.
but if someone ripped me off say 50 for .5 or 100 for 1.0, I definitely wouldn't spend another $1000 to tank his ratings that would be retarded.
Couple of points: you're making an erroneous assumption. This is not a couple of bucks.... A $1000 to you might be a lot of money compared to whatever your weekly allowance may be, or whatever your welfare check amounts to, but to us grown-ups, it's not a lot of money. Like VMM I'm just trying to "help" everyone.
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Vortex for me has gotten reasonably priced, great quality gear to the other side of the world with escrow for me. His service is nothing short of amazing compared to the IRL fuck arounds i used to deal with. Yes he can be slow to ship but it's a small price to pay i say.
Chill out people.
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Vortex for me has gotten reasonably priced, great quality gear to the other side of the world with escrow for me. His service is nothing short of amazing compared to the IRL fuck arounds i used to deal with. Yes he can be slow to ship but it's a small price to pay i say.
Chill out people.
Yes and let's not forget this: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=13160.0
Which he admitted to!
Because I gave this seller (vortexmilkman(98)) a low rating (which was explained in the subject line) I have received these series of threatening messages:
1) "So you're not going to change it or reply? OK, we'll see what other goodies you receive in your mail"
2) "Was nice knowing you."
3) "You're in a small little town in the middle of nowhere, Im sure the Post office and or local Police will have fun knowing your address at xxx Robinson St is a center of Drug activity.
Keep fucking playing with me."
This is unacceptable; what's the point of a rating system if I can't be honest, and then this coward threatens me with the police?
I will not deal with a jack-ass like this again, and his text responses show that my rating was spot-on!
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Re: Threatened with the police by seller vortexmilkman(98)
Reply #36 on: February 26, 2012, 09:54 AM »
Alright guys here is the deal. Upon investigation, VortexMilkman did indeed threaten the user in question with action by the police. Because one of the main tenants of this site is not threaten buyers, his account had to be suspended. This is an unfortunate case because outside of this incident VMM has been a stand up Vendor here on the Road, but as peoples safety is our number one concern action had to be taken.
~DigitalAlch
So..... In sum, you can order from VMM, and get your product 30 to 40 days later. And possibily be reported to the police by this fucker.
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Yes, this is an anonymous account because VMM has threatened to report buyers to the police. But I'm have the same frustration as others. 27 days without my product. He will not answer emails, he just steals.
How many chances does he get? He had his account suspended once, now he's flat out stealing and lying. I'm not going crazy like the others, but I do agree - he needs to go!
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How long can everyone bitch about this guy vmm. On one hand Im glad people are bitching because I just got on here a week ago and I am placing my first order tommorrow and these posts have steered me away from VMM who I was originally going to go with because of the sale. So thank you for the info but goddamm I get it he rips people off and threatens to call the cops on people. SHIT get rid of him them whoever makes those decisions I dunno
By the way is there anyone else I should steer clear of anyone know about Noreigas shipments to the US east COAST
Thx everyone
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I'm posting this positive note about VMM at the risk of being killed with the level of hostility going on. But I feel it's my duty:
I ordered from VMM a couple of weeks ago and had product in a weeks time. It was really good quality and while I've been spoiled by vroomvroom getting me stuff overnight, I'll order from VMM again as his stuff is always good and consistent.
I'm only speaking for myself and I totally understand when mis- or no communication occurs. I just hope y'all get it worked out. 0_o
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I'm not the brightest guy
I appreciate your honesty.
but if someone ripped me off say 50 for .5 or 100 for 1.0, I definitely wouldn't spend another $1000 to tank his ratings that would be retarded.
Couple of points: you're making an erroneous assumption. This is not a couple of bucks.... A $1000 to you might be a lot of money compared to whatever your weekly allowance may be, or whatever your welfare check amounts to, but to us grown-ups, it's not a lot of money. Like VMM I'm just trying to "help" everyone.
Ok tell me I'm make a erroneous assumption then you do the same saying that I'm on welfare or 14 with an allowance. Let me break it down for you dipshit
You did/feel like you got scammed for X amount of dollars
So you Finalize Early for another $1000 to ruin his ratings.
That means your a moron and stop trying to use big words like your somebody. Your just another dipshit waiting for VMM to do something, get in line with the rest of us.
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You did/feel like you got scammed for X amount of dollars
Nope, I got all my money back. He's refunding faster than a crackhead sucking dick for another hit.
So you Finalize Early for another $1000 to ruin his ratings.
Yes. I will. But, he's done here... so it's not needed.
That means your a moron
your somebody
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Your just another dipshit
Pro tip - it's you're not your.... I guess that makes you the moronic dipshit!
Big words?!?!?! Such as - erroneous & assumption? Well, I guess a person that does not know the difference between your and you're, those are "big" words.
You know... you make this far too easy. Please write more.... pointing out your stupidity is enjoyable.
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Fuk_This:
You have a bad attitude. VMM is definitely not a thief and you know that. I ordered from him a few weeks ago and ordered his .5 for 10 BTC sale and received a .5 shard along with another.2 of smaller crystals. I ordered from him a week ago and have been waiting for a few days since finalizing so I know how aggravating this all is. I've dealt with vendors that truly did bullshit you for a couple weeks before disappearing and never sending your product. And I know VMM is not one of those guys.
I'm not directly attacking you but your making this thread extremely hostile and nobody wants that. We all know that something is going on with VMM which is why nobody's been receiving product as of lately but he said he had some problems, he's gonna clear everything up, and either refund or ship out what he owes, and I honestly believe that he will keep to his word.
This kinda thing happens to good vendors a lot. NUCLEO for example.... I know this sucks but just chill man. How much did you have tied up in this whole mess anyways?
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I got my money back, so I'm fine. But if you look to the facts, he's not someone a person should deal with. 1. He had his account suspended for threatening to call the cops.
2. He lies.
3. His shipping is unacceptable - 30 to 40 days DOMESTIC
4. He cons people into FE, not me, but he does tie up peoples money.
Tweak away... if you need it that bad, then take the risk. I really don't care about anyone but myself. Personally, I think he should be gone. I don't like him. Period. I'm done fucking with him and this thread unless my boy Buster has some more nuggets of info.
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Fantastic. So anyways....
VMM when will you dispatch all the remaining orders you have not shipped yet?
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Please VortexMilkMan, i want a refund now .
i dont want to give one more time my information now.
i prefer wait 1 or 2 mounth for the situation stabilised.
i m waiting the refund.
thank you
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"Fuk_this", kill yourself. Thats all I gotta say to you.
I dont owe you shit in this world and there is a special place reserved for super-cunts like yourself where currency is the last thing youll worry about.
Hey all others , hang in there, those who havent received, and who have indeed resent the info I lost..you can expect domesitc arrival within days and my international friends will receive in 7-14 days max.
Took the entire weekend to restructure.
I lost over 15,000 USD and a shitload of crystal.....so when Im spending what money I have left and recovered to fulfill orders that mainly is delayed to info lost and deleted and machines tossed that had all the encrypted and pending orders and finalized orders that was supposed to go out last week didnt.....yes i would need the info again and a new pgp and a new locale to handle orders....this causes a lapse in shpiping time....Combine that to an already existing delay which was caused by my own shipping schedule unable to fit all the orders out in a timely fashion, and you can see why we have a few hotheads in the thread.
Yes, there was a serious breach in my security recently by basically the errors and greed of a certain individual of who jeopardized alot...and whom now is walking down memory lane trying to find his soul...
All is well in the land of the Vortex......please dont lose faith, once everyone gets their orders......everything is like clock work again as of now....supply is vast, last batch of orders and backlogs are being cleared...and the bulk clients are getting their delayed loads....
i have a lot on my plate so bear with me folks...so we can have a great year with ZERO hiccups.........Fuk_this, take your negative energy and stick it up your ass, then shit it out and eat it =]
V
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Fuck_this, so many things I'd like to say to you, but just don't have the energy or hatred that you seem to be full of, along with something else.
You keep screaming and yelling about how he (VMM) should be removed for the good of the community. What I see is you causing more harm than good right now. Where there may have been a chance for those who may have lost money to calm down and think good thoughts, you have caused an all out clusterfuck and pretty much made sure that every person who lost money, or who thinks they may have lost money, knows it and feels it every second. As if this weren't bad enough, this has the effect of increasing the chance VMM will just say fuck it and bounce. He may be guilty of somethings, but right now you are potentiating, for lack of a better work, his mistakes. And now as if THAT isn't bad enough, you do so behind a disposable account so no one knows who you are, because you are every seller's biggest nightmare. More than anything, this new username hurts your case. Why should anyone stand behind you when you won't even stand behind yourself? I understand that you guys have history, but you are not earning any respect here (which I suspect you know, hence the new ID).
Your comments to anyone who disagrees with you are uncalled for, petty and childish, regardless of what VMM has or has not done. Your line where you tried to make us believe that a $1000 is nothing to you, is really really laughable, I don't think you realize how stupid that sounded because you are so drunk with your anger. If it really is nothing to you, donate that thousand or even half of it to the mods at SR. They have to deal with both vendors who fuck up and then people like you, AT THE SAME TIME!
As for your being ultra pedantic with methamphetamine's handle, I think you are missing a subtle play on words there, but I'm sure you don't really care if you're right, just that everybody pays you some attention while you rage in your house in complete anonymity. Better yet, double anonymity!
How about showing some maturity and some of that boss swag you think you have. Right now you're acting like a 12 year old girl who just got her first period.
Edit: Saw that VMM replied while I was typing this. I'm glad you're not letting shit get you down. It shows a positive character trait, when your character has been attacked multiple times itt. I'm done with this thread. I'll be watching and hoping that Mr.DoubleAnon has to eat those words.
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Thanks for stopping by with comforting word V, I emailed you on SR my info but didn't use the PGP, do I need to resend it? I'm assuming your shipping all orders out this next week as per your last comment, correct?
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Upon further investigation into this clownfish....apparently
Fuk_This is attending the RiverWoods Emergency Drug Rehab Facility and is in dire need of intervention.
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USE THE NEW PGP ERBODY!
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Fuk This take your negativity elsewhere. Despite what you may think you are doing nobody any favours.
Anyway: VMM would you be able to process my refund now that you're online? I will purchase from you in the future but I just need the coins freed up for the time being, thanks.
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Lol @ Fuk_this samefagging up this thread, shitty shill for lack of a better term. Really poor form bro.
VMM, take your time man. I, for one, appreciate a "better safe than sorry" approach. No worries in the mean time; everyone knows you're legit.
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Vortexmilkman has refund me !
i will wait a time that this situation comedown and will for sure buy some product in the futur.
thank you VMM to have understand that.
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I gotta go public that I've been waiting 5 weeks. Almost 6 now. And have received nothing.
I've had one successful order from VMM before.
I'm pissed off. I'm not the kind that jumps up and down here after 2 weeks of waiting.
BUT AFTER A MONTH AND A FUCKING HALF after I finalised early because of the first success.
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I gotta go public that I've been waiting 5 weeks. Almost 6 now. And have received nothing.
I've had one successful order from VMM before.
I'm pissed off. I'm not the kind that jumps up and down here after 2 weeks of waiting.
BUT AFTER A MONTH AND A FUCKING HALF after I finalized early because of the first success.
Are you domestic? I placed and received an order within the last 6 weeks and just placed my second order within the last week only to find out he's backlogged.. Your problem appears to be from before all his mishapenings.
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Vortex could i also get a refund please? I'm happy to order when this all blows over, but for now I need the coins as I have no more money.
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Vortex could i also get a refund please? I'm happy to order when this all blows over, but for now I need the coins as I have no more money.
What this guy said! :)
I would also like to get a refund if my order hasn't already gone out.
Thank you.
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Ha-ha, guess I was right.... Buh-bye Vortex "Milk" man, enjoy your "stealth" mode, you fucking thief. Refund all those that are asking????? You got the balls to do it?
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Well I can't resist one final comment on vmm:
I think everybody realizes that shit happens and that an occasional delay-even a lengthy one-is inevitable. And I think most people, excepting this fuk_this clown, realize that vmm is neither a scammer nor a thief. But I think what pisses people off (or what pissed me off about my last vmm order, at least) is being actively misled about the status of their orders.
There's a lesson for vendors in here: if an order is going to be late just tell the customer that is the case and in 99% of the cases they will accept it and probably do business with you in the future. Lie to them and tell them their order is on the way when it's actually not, though, and you've lost a customer
forever.
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Yo, VMM. I sent you a fairly urgent PM. I know you're prolly swamped with messages, but please make sure you get a chance to read it soon. It would very much be to your benefit. Thanks man.
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Dude, all of you keep leaving 1s, and bringing me down, If you keep doing this, you really are fucking yourself over.....how is bringing my overall score down to nearly the 80s helping getting things back on track?
Why dont I just give up now, and leave with what I have insterad of spending money for ungrateful fucks?
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shit man.. that would suck...
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Since you guys keep bringing me down, I decided to take down everything, and instead of rushing to process everything today, I will probably wait a few more days before attempting to spend more money shpiping shit to ungrateful, whiny drug addicts.
Bye
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just refund the people who want it, wait some days to get a better head and start a new clean slate
maybe try not too be too big for your britches are your customers will love the service, just my 2 btc
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Its not about being too big or able to handle a random amount of orders.
That is laughable...its about me losing thousands of dollars, changing my entire locale, new machines, new stock due to losing shitload of crystal.....shit i dont gotta explain shit other than theres problems that have since been rectified, and bouncing back....but if i see the attitude of the community being generally lame and whiny....then why the fuck should i do anything?
you guys actually think i need sr?
hahaha
im so done trying to please you guys.........its just a waste of time
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dont give in please vortex! and will everyone else just back off a little please as i myself have loads of money tied up with like 3 diff orders but i aint going on like most people,
the more pressure u keep putting on him the more hes going to want to run, he has been a great vendor for 10months and never let any one down and now he has had a run of bad luck i think we as a community should be supporting someone who in my eyes has already proved to us all he is NO scammer and he is taking the time to come on here and explain himself, yes i am in the same boat as most of you but putting the man under this much pressure is going to fuck it up for the ones who have been patient and waited, he is only human ease off him. he will put it right if you give him a chance :)
also leaving 1/5 scores is just going to piss him off so please give him a chance to put things right now he has taken the time to explain,
you have my support VMM
RR
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dont give in please vortex! and will everyone else just back off a little please as i myself have loads of money tied up with like 3 diff orders but i aint going on like most people,
the more pressure u keep putting on him the more hes going to want to run, he has been a great vendor for 10months and never let any one down and now he has had a run of bad luck i think we as a community should be supporting someone who in my eyes has already proved to us all he is NO scammer and he is taking the time to come on here and explain himself, yes i am in the same boat as most of you but putting the man under this much pressure is going to fuck it up for the ones who have been patient and waited, he is only human ease off him. he will put it right if you give him a chance :)
also leaving 1/5 scores is just going to piss him off so please give him a chance to put things right now he has taken the time to explain,
you have my support VMM
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Well I do have to agree with you there, and it does annoy me in a way because people will push him over the edge, and if he does decide to run use that as proof that he was trying to scam all along. I still rather receive my order than a refund, but it just feels like maybe this is all getting blown out of control, and it might be better to just give everyone refunds then start selling again in a week or two.
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well yeah what ever is easier for him really i would still like my orders though to be fair, all im saying is this guy has been around since the beginning of sr and has hundreds of successful orders and even now after all this people are amending there feedback and saying that yes it took a while but they got there orders.
give the guy the benefit of the doubt cos at the end of the day he already has your money and if he wanted to fuck u over, he would have no reason to come on here and explain himself cos he already has your coins he could just fuck off and none of u would have a chance to have a pop at him,
i think he is doing the right thing buy showing himself on here and trying to catch up with all outstanding orders
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give the guy the benefit of the doubt cos at the end of the day he already has your money and if he wanted to fuck u over, he would have no reason to come on here and explain himself cos he already has your coins he could just fuck off and none of u would have a chance to have a pop at him,
i think he is doing the right thing buy showing himself on here and trying to catch up with all outstanding orders
This. If he wanted to bolt he never would have bothered getting his operation up and running again.
I asked for a refund and he PMed me saying he had just shipped my order out so I'm actually happy. :D
Provided I get my goods of course. Don't let a couple of dickheads get you down VMM, after all, there is NO SHORTAGE OF WANKERS on this little planet.
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give the guy the benefit of the doubt cos at the end of the day he already has your money and if he wanted to fuck u over, he would have no reason to come on here and explain himself cos he already has your coins he could just fuck off and none of u would have a chance to have a pop at him,
i think he is doing the right thing buy showing himself on here and trying to catch up with all outstanding orders
This. If he wanted to bolt he never would have bothered getting his operation up and running again.
I asked for a refund and he PMed me saying he had just shipped my order out so I'm actually happy. :D
Provided I get my goods of course. Don't let a couple of dickheads get you down VMM, after all, there is NO SHORTAGE OF WANKERS on this little planet.
Oh ok well it's good to know he's shipped some out, hopefully mine is on the way then. I gave me info again.
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this is happening across the board, check out whats happening with tony
All the drug addicts that have over-run SR are going to eventually take it down. All good things come to an end... But what a shame it will be because of a bunch of piss-poor junkie assholes.
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TL; DR: Do you REALLY think you're going to get a better outcome by talking more shit?
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I'm fully cognizant that trying to inject some common sense into this thread is probably a completely futile exercise, but I felt the need to pontificate for a bit.
Look peeps...ignoring the internet gangsters, real ones, hardcore tweakers/dope fiends, and any combination thereof...
Last time I checked, this was the drug game.
For the seasoned heads...y'all already know that shit's fickle as fuck, and I don't care how hard you may profess you are, everybody's gotten gaffled at some point. C'est la vie.
For the multitudes of obviously naive newschoolers littering the thread: Consider your cherry popped. By that, I mean if you haven't figured it out by now, this is an industry infamous for its lack of guarantees. To paraphrase Vortex, "this ain't some legal ebay shit," and the sooner you realize that, the better. Whether due to greed or addiction, somebody's always gonna fuck shit up for somebody else. Do yourself a favor, look at the fucked up world around you, and you should hopefully realize that somebody's always trying to get over on somebody else. That's a ubiquitous fact of life written into our genetics, and given that scientifically, we're just self-glorified apes, it shouldn't surprise anyone.
Metaphysical meandering aside, on a realistic level, you guys are totally fucking yourselves in the ass with no lube, and it amazes me that this has occurred to so few peeps.
Let me break it down for you, because y'all are making a strategic mistake so obvious, yet so goddamn grevious, that I can't bear to watch anymore.
YOU GUYS WANT SOMETHING FROM VORTEX, YOU"RE TREATING HIM LIKE SHIT, AND HE ALREADY HAS YOUR FUCKING MONEY!!!!
I mean seriously, even in the most utterly bleak of possible outlooks, if you're gonna talk shit, until he officially pulls a fucking Houdini, you might want to shut your trap while there's even a miniscule hope of him making good. If you want to talk shit after you get your product, fine, but the only reason this market exists is because its nature affords us all a large degree of anonymity.
Given that fact, if you think your chances of achieving an auspicious outcome are directly proportional to the amount of vitriol you hurl...well, you're totally right :)
Note, I intentionally avoided any mention of Vortex's prior-reputation, handling of the current sitch, etc. (Especially given recent events re: PTP, Toyata, etc.) Personally, I think he's a real dude, and have complete faith that I'll get my goods, but that's completely irrelevant to what I just said. I'd write the same shit verbatim if I thought he was the sheistiest head on the planet.
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Above comment is certified wise.
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Lol, I been just shaking my head at these people who are talking so much shit. I really don't see the logic, not even a little bit.
I can't wait to try this shit. I too have faith that my package will arrive.
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Fuck_this, so many things I'd like to say to you, but just don't have the energy or hatred that you seem to be full of, along with something else.
Edit: redacted for brevity, but you did not waste your time.
Well written. Look, count the number of people that have been screwed by him. Personally, I just sought his attention, and it worked. You say I "sound" mad, but I'm far from it - in fact, I'm laughing. Big time. The $1K going to the mods is a great idea, but since he's gone stealth mode, I've accomplished my goal. He's threatened to release addresses to the police and he fails to live up to his promises. I'm surprised people still buy his excuses like he's Wal-mart on X-mas morning.
I should not have fucked with his cheerleading squad, but I had to stand my ground. For anyone, except VMM, I apologize. I had a job to do, and I did it. VMM you can go fuck yourself (in Stealth mode).
Again, my work is done here. By the way, my only anonymous account is this one. The others, like Fuk_this_2, is not me.
Please, hatedpatriot, in all seriousness, indulge me: methamphetamine, methamphetamines, or methamphetamine's without a possessive. I'm curious what I missed. The former is correct regardless of the amount. Not that it matters.
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Well this has gone bad.
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Ironically, my inbox is flooded with thanks yous, and of course, the obligatory "Your a douche." I truly hope that you all get your money back or product. When a top vendor threatens with police and waking away with everyone's money, I start to wonder how could he be $15K in the hole?
Here is a suggestion, take everyone of his posts, print them out, line them up chronologically, and then, get three highlighter pens, and highlight all the financial mistake with one color, the excuses with another color, and of course, the security breach with another color.
I understand you have pending orders, and want me to shut-up so he doe not leave. I will do so. But come on, you have to be very stupid to buy from him with security issues. If that is not enough, recall tht his accout was suspended by the SR staff for thretening to report addresses to the police.
Would a drug raged, tweaker, purposely drive a vendor out? No, that is ludicrous. I just dislike the thief that pray upon the weak. I'm returning the favor. You know he went stealth because he believes I can, and will, buy a shit ton of his crapp and tank his ratings. Think about it, you say it's retarded, I say its a public service.
All that said, if he is able to repair his reputation, I might consider using him gains, but that is a highly qualified "might."
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Like I said, he supplies to a small circle to keep a score and scams the rest. I've counted; there are over 40 people here complaining they have received nothing, received threats, excuses or are still waiting after a month.
Rather than spend time kissing his ass in the hope of getting your gear or refund (you won't get either) you need to do the honorable thing for the sake of Silk Road and future users:
1) Mark him a scammer and give him a score of 1
2) Contact SR explain your case and ask him to be submitted to Fraud Prevention
He drags the process out long enough for the transaction number to disappear from your records, then turns nasty. After asking for a refund following waiting a month and a half, instead of excuses I'm getting threats and laughter, including being told I won't see a penny and I'm a piece of sh/t.
Come on SR, he's gotten away with ripping of 40+ people, let's not let him get away with anymore just because you buyers are clinging to the hope he might send you your order if you mark him well or give him more patience or backing than he deserves.
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He drags the process out long enough for the transaction number to disappear from your records, then turns nasty. After asking for a refund following waiting a month and a half, instead of excuses I'm getting threats and laughter, including being told I won't see a penny and I'm a piece of sh/t.
Come on SR, he's gotten away with ripping of 40+ people, let's not let him get away with anymore just because you buyers are clinging to the hope he might send you your order if you mark him well or give him more patience or backing than he deserves.
So he told you your not getting a penny?
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Either he will do the right thing or he wont.
I think it's important to feedback honestly, giving a 5 from 5 to a guy who requested I finalize early, then lied by advising that my package was sent would be inappropriate.
3 weeks, no communications. In addition to this, after the 3 week period the vendor requests address details again and then will not confirm whether it was resent or not.
How does that NOT deserve anything more than a 1 of 5.
The feedback is reviewable and I would be more than happy to review it if/when what I paid for nearly a month ago arrives, but even then it'd be a 4 of 5 at best. (Depending on obvious factors)
At the moment, I'm $360 down, with nothing but my dick in my hand for a month, no communication from the vendor who now he seems intent on holding people blackmail in regards to HONEST feedback left.
WOW!
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right "fuck_this" please mate you have made your point and i can see it from your point of view but i can also remember you saying you got a refund and there are many of us who aint got a refund or product so please stop pissing him off, as i believe he will honor his word and get all orders out.
the fact that he has taken his listings down should be seen as a good thing until he has sorted him self out,
i for one will re use milkman once he has court up with orders, i have 100btc ready to place another order :)
and vortex please dont listen to the haters
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you've been around longer than a month, it shouldn't shock you that Vortex isn't exactly known as Speedy Gonzales. I'm not saying this to talk shit, I'm just saying it because it's not like it's a fucking secret; call it a hunch, but I can pretty much guarantee most of you forked over your dough cuz he's got a solid product and you can't fuck with the fire sale price point.
Now, just to be clear, if you fall in the above category, and this is a profound revelation to you, then frankly I'm surprised you aren't walking around permanently butthurt, cuz you obviously didn't even do the little bit of cursory research into who you were giving your money to. Call me a douchebag or whatever (I prefer to think of it as Tough Love,) but I've always subscribed to the theory that if you don't wake peeps up, somebody else is gonna do it and not be gentle about it.
Proselytizing aside, Vortex's shipping has been reasonable, but there's always been a bit of lag relative to other vendors; on top of that, if you look at the last 2 or 3 months or so, he and Vroom were the only choices you had and then Vroom had to bow out cuz of his medical issues. Not exactly a recipe for improved turnaround time.
Since I'm trying to teach y'all a little perspective, I guess I'll throw in a math lesson too. Let's start with maybe 2 days before he got to your order, another day or two of back and forth with him requesting FE for newer buyers, another day or two for it to get to the post and then normal government domestic mail. Counting on my fingers, you're looking at potentially a week min, and I kinda think those are some generous intervals. I didn't even get crazy and throw in extra days for Sunday or holidays and shit, but I think you get the picture.
So, add to that, one part scamming partner/security issues, half a week for a straight up halt, a week to relocate your steez and maybe acquire more product, and right there, you're already *easily* looking at 3 weeks (this is all theoretical, so don't get your panties in a bunch.) On top of that, I can guarantee that on top of his backlog, at least 30% of you dumb fuckers were sending him like 5 messages a day fiending for your shit, so he's gotta waste extra time playing the customer service role to a bunch of divas with serious entitlement issues.
Hmm...that's starting to look like about the same window that most of you are complaining about (seems like most of em are around the 3-4 week range.)
Luckily, heisenburg unretired, vroom's back from the dead, and we have some new vendors stepping up to give a bit of variety and ease some of the funnel (dubg, professortwak, ajaipai, and thestore) but shit, every single one of them is dealing with snags too, either sheisty partners, leo, or just straight up volume. Call it what you want, but even the heads above reproach aren't fucking teleporting your shit to your mailbox within hours (well, unless you got the hookup, but you know what I'm saying.)
Anyway, by now I'm sure a gang of y'all have added Jock Rider to my list of sobriquets, but I'm just trying to provide a little perspective. If you think this shit is a cakewalk, take 5 minutes and look up threads on vroom, profess, heis, or thestore (all of them pretty volatile.) The only difference between this thread and the others (in terms of sheer scale of hate,) is that Vortex obviously isn't the type of dude that put's up with taking shit from peeps.
Whether right or wrong, that's one thing I understand, especially when he's the one risking his shit for y'all.
BTW, didn't mean to get all verbal vigilante, especially as a lurker making his initial appearance, but for that, you can thank Ajaipai. Barely toked and I've been fucking flying for at least 10 hours now :)
Will give DubG's a test drive tomorrow, and if I'm lucky, will also get a package from Heisenburg and Vortex this week. One good thing came of these troubles...I'm fucking putting together the OG sampler platter :)
EZ
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i feel like i am in a carnival at the meth booth.
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i feel like i am in a carnival at the meth booth.
Aren't all carnival booths meth booths?
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Dear V.
I paid you for methamphetamine, not for a chat in the forums.
Come on mate. **Give us what we paid you for** and get your business up and rolling again.
Please. We all know your gear is the bomb, and I'll buy again if I get what I paid for.
Just sayin.
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Wulong2, I wanna burn a fat ass spliff with ya.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you've been around longer than a month, it shouldn't shock you that Vortex isn't exactly known as Speedy Gonzales. I'm not saying this to talk shit, I'm just saying it because it's not like it's a fucking secret; call it a hunch, but I can pretty much guarantee most of you forked over your dough cuz he's got a solid product and you can't fuck with the fire sale price point.
Now, just to be clear, if you fall in the above category, and this is a profound revelation to you, then frankly I'm surprised you aren't walking around permanently butthurt, cuz you obviously didn't even do the little bit of cursory research into who you were giving your money to. Call me a douchebag or whatever (I prefer to think of it as Tough Love,) but I've always subscribed to the theory that if you don't wake peeps up, somebody else is gonna do it and not be gentle about it.
Proselytizing aside, Vortex's shipping has been reasonable, but there's always been a bit of lag relative to other vendors; on top of that, if you look at the last 2 or 3 months or so, he and Vroom were the only choices you had and then Vroom had to bow out cuz of his medical issues. Not exactly a recipe for improved turnaround time.
Since I'm trying to teach y'all a little perspective, I guess I'll throw in a math lesson too. Let's start with maybe 2 days before he got to your order, another day or two of back and forth with him requesting FE for newer buyers, another day or two for it to get to the post and then normal government domestic mail. Counting on my fingers, you're looking at potentially a week min, and I kinda think those are some generous intervals. I didn't even get crazy and throw in extra days for Sunday or holidays and shit, but I think you get the picture.
So, add to that, one part scamming partner/security issues, half a week for a straight up halt, a week to relocate your steez and maybe acquire more product, and right there, you're already *easily* looking at 3 weeks (this is all theoretical, so don't get your panties in a bunch.) On top of that, I can guarantee that on top of his backlog, at least 30% of you dumb fuckers were sending him like 5 messages a day fiending for your shit, so he's gotta waste extra time playing the customer service role to a bunch of divas with serious entitlement issues.
Hmm...that's starting to look like about the same window that most of you are complaining about (seems like most of em are around the 3-4 week range.)
Luckily, heisenburg unretired, vroom's back from the dead, and we have some new vendors stepping up to give a bit of variety and ease some of the funnel (dubg, professortwak, ajaipai, and thestore) but shit, every single one of them is dealing with snags too, either sheisty partners, leo, or just straight up volume. Call it what you want, but even the heads above reproach aren't fucking teleporting your shit to your mailbox within hours (well, unless you got the hookup, but you know what I'm saying.)
Anyway, by now I'm sure a gang of y'all have added Jock Rider to my list of sobriquets, but I'm just trying to provide a little perspective. If you think this shit is a cakewalk, take 5 minutes and look up threads on vroom, profess, heis, or thestore (all of them pretty volatile.) The only difference between this thread and the others (in terms of sheer scale of hate,) is that Vortex obviously isn't the type of dude that put's up with taking shit from peeps.
Whether right or wrong, that's one thing I understand, especially when he's the one risking his shit for y'all.
BTW, didn't mean to get all verbal vigilante, especially as a lurker making his initial appearance, but for that, you can thank Ajaipai. Barely toked and I've been fucking flying for at least 10 hours now :)
Will give DubG's a test drive tomorrow, and if I'm lucky, will also get a package from Heisenburg and Vortex this week. One good thing came of these troubles...I'm fucking putting together the OG sampler platter :)
EZ
+1... A wordsmith you are, wulong2!
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If Vortex can somehow prove his credibility I would still take the chance and order off of him. I only say this because I have never ordered from him so nothing has been proven to me yet. If I had and was refunded or taken care of eventually I think I would stay with him. But as a new SR client with only a couple orders I have to say that all of these negative comments being posted about VMM is making it less and less likely that I would ever consider it unless it was the only option. Allthough when VMM makes posts defending himself to me it makes him seem more credible and provides some hope. I have nothing invested in this just letting VMM and anyone else no that the negativity is probably affecting possible new customers. And for VMM the best thing you can probably do if you even want to continue on SR is to keep doing what you have been doing. Keep posting on whats going on with you and where you are in the recovery process, I think that goes a long way to improving confidence. FREE opinions given all day long just ask.
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"Dont list, what ya dont have..."
"Dont list, what ya dont have..."
"Dont list, what ya dont have..."
"Dont list, what ya dont have..."
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Been waiting on a gram order for over 3 weeks now.
He has told me 3times now that he's sorry for the delay and it will be shipped shortly.
He's also told me he restocked TWICE during this time...yet my order has not gotten shipped.
He's also ignoring my PM's now.
I finalized early so there's nothing I can do....
This is getting ridiculous...I'm losing hope on this pack to be honest.
He even changed his online mode to "stealth" 2 PM's ago and hasn't answered me since then.
I don't get it...a gram order cannot be a big order to this guy.
I understand the security issues or whatever he said but I ordered WAY before any of that happened and he said it was all fixed and I've still yet to receive anything. Meh.
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VMM made it right and refunded me today, so if you got an outstanding order looks like hes going to make it right and isnt bailing. Will I order from him again, no. I will say though he could have bailed with a lot of change and he didn't so its not all bad. Hopefully he gets his operation back in order.
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Wulong2, I wanna burn a fat ass spliff with ya.
From the reactions in the various threads, I'd have figured most heads would've been more interested in the other shit I've been smoking.
Be careful what you ask for though...I get hella metaphysical when I smoke trees, and will probably try to teach you about quantum physics or some shit...lol.
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That's right, this is the meth game, If you don't know that already then your not prepared for the outcomes.
VMM has always come through for me, could he have just bounced with grands worth of mine and others money countless times already? Sure, but he still hasn't and that should say a lot. Plus always sends out decent gear.
So show the guy some respect and understand the nature of the beast your playing with.
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+1... A wordsmith you are, wulong2!
I appreciate the sentiment, but I didn't tell anyone anything they didn't know already. I just get tired of watching peeps fool themselves into thinking their faux outrage is a substitute for accomplishing anything of substance. Heads are always gonna be too lazy to think for themselves, but their mass hysteria was harshing my mellow.
Of course, I haven't had a TV in 20 years, so I have a bit of a longer attention span than most folks. :)
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I made my 1rst order with him and it should have been send 21days ago anyone know if this is close to a standard delivery time to France ?
I m just hopping that I m not getting scammed for my 1rst order...
If I am I would have learn the hard way not to FE....
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I made my 1rst order with him and it should have been send 21days ago anyone know if this is close to a standard delivery time to France ?
I m just hopping that I m not getting scammed for my 1rst order...
If I am I would have learn the hard way not to FE....
he aint scamming you ive waited 35days to uk but i know it will come eventually so will yours :)
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Going on 32 days to Australia. He said he sent it 2 weeks ago. Hopefully it will arrive this week. Fingers crossed.
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Got back in touch with VMM 3 days ago and patiently waiting. Hopefully he's back on track now, and I'm a "noob" but a patient one at that. :o
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stay away from him. he just continues to bullshit. idk why.
loses addy, order #. resend.
doesnt answer messages, gets "shipped". never comes. never answers messages.
says he'll ship. nothing for weeks.
marked in transit MARCH 20. lol.
60+ orders
0refund
0% auto
enough said.
get your fucking mind right.
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I can understand your collective frustration, my first order took 11 days to arrive, yet the 2nd was a flawless turnaround of 3-4 days. VMM has been around basically since the beginning, so I'd give him the benefit of the doubt personally.
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well this thread has gone quite are i think people are starting to receive there orders and no see he aint a scammer, hes back up on silkroad so this has to be a good sign :)
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I'm happy to see Vortex back on the road. I still have not received my domestic order and I finalized early 22 days ago which was a week after the initial order was placed. I am still confident that he will come through and I will update here when that time comes. Looking forward to it!
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as I mentioned a week ago -- VMM isn't the speediest of shippers, but that has never been a fucking secret (posts from 6 months ago attest to this). idk, can he get the FE button to appear w/o putting the status to "in transit"? whatever -- all I know is that I eventually get some good shit in the mail from VMM, and at 2/3 the price, it's ok with me.
everybody went all ballistic during this past week (I haven't been able to log in for a while), but it's quiet now. Prolly 'cause the noisemakers finally got an envelope of goodness and are busy burning their fingers on hot glass or lighter wheels.
I smoked up my last tiny shard this morning. If my next post has a different tone to it -- ignore me, I may be fiending....
(I wonder if I should re-send my addy to VMM - it has only been 13 days since I FE'd -- I try to give it at least 2 weeks before I start whining, but with all the shit he's gone through lately, I may have fallen through the cracks)
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Hey guys,
I have an order that will auto-finalize in 3 days.
I want to allow VMM 1-2 weeks before asking for a refund. Last order took 35 days to get here but I finalized early so I didn't have to deal with the auto-finalize thing.
What should i do ? Can I push resolve and just allow more time from there ? I dont wan't to have an auto-finalize on my feedback and I'ld rather get the stuff then a refund.
Thanks !
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thanks, shiznit, I always wondered how to handle that, if I was ever put in that spot.
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Thanks man !
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Wulong2, I wanna burn a fat ass spliff with ya.
From the reactions in the various threads, I'd have figured most heads would've been more interested in the other shit I've been smoking.
Be careful what you ask for though...I get hella metaphysical when I smoke trees, and will probably try to teach you about quantum physics or some shit...lol.
No complaints here, that's my shit. I don't get to meet to many people irl that like to party like me AND can talk about string theory.
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VMM has never stuffed me around . i have waited awhile for one order but he stayed in contact. remember he has heaps of questions to answer. he helped me out to great guy i think. quailty goes up and down but always good shit.. once he has been late. and he told me why and stayed in pm for me.
no reason to shit can the dude. we are lucky to have him so shut the fuck up unless he rips you. and then im sure he will fix the problem. AUS
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Hi all, first time posting long time lurker
I have read the last 5 or so pages concerning the problems with the milkman.
I made my first order with him 23 days ago for 2 of his 1/2gr 10btc specials.
I contacted him after 15 days and got the standard message everyone got about the problems, can you re-send blah blah blah.
So i sent a message back, its been 5 days now and he still has not read it, yet he is back on accepting orders again when he clearly has not caught up with what is outstanding.
and no i have not bombarded him with messages.
what gives??
some people are saying give time- fair enough, but how long?
others are saying hes a little slow but you will get your product- maybe for you but clearly not everyone
some have even gotten a refund- lucky you
from reading this thread not everybody is get a response from him by messaging but yet he is taking NEW orders.
something very fishy going on here!
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mate i think you might be way back in the que im on day 43today and nothing yet
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Wulong2, I wanna burn a fat ass spliff with ya.
From the reactions in the various threads, I'd have figured most heads would've been more interested in the other shit I've been smoking.
Be careful what you ask for though...I get hella metaphysical when I smoke trees, and will probably try to teach you about quantum physics or some shit...lol.
No complaints here, that's my shit. I don't get to meet to many people irl that like to party like me AND can talk about string theory.
Assuming you drink, we should *NEVER*, *EVER*, under *ANY* circumstances, kick it together.
The mix of booze, trees, and our beloved shards destroys lives when combined with informed, unchecked extrospection. Loved ones simply cease to exist when deep in the throes of a discussion comparing the similarities between early taoist texts and wave particle duality.
Or, we could just get really fucking drunk and high.
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BTW, everybody chill the fuck out and hold tight. I just got my shit today, and I'm domestic.
The Milkman will deliver.
That's not fish you smell...it's the aroma of thousands of nonfunctional fried brain cells.
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good on you bro for getting your shit today.
now go fry up bro, shut the fuck up
my point is he has not processed orders from over a month ago, let alone reply to people messages
yet he is taking new orders, come on man!
clearly only some people are getting orders/replies or refunds, the few that are sticking up for him.
WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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alrighty, i had ordered last month and had finalized as requested by vmm...
i received a message from him three days ago to provide my shipping details again.
all in all, vmm responded well with my questions, and was seemingly honest in his responses.
i am waiting on confirmation that my order has been shipped, and i will update again.
all you haters, give him a break. vmm has earnt enough reputation over the past year from a great many of us.
shit happens all the time, be grateful that he is atleast trying to fix the situation.
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Sorry VM for the late update been in land of no broadband.
I received my order to AUS 2 weeks ago, my order like the rest of you was finalized early at sellers request.
Order took about 20 Days to arrive and when I was at day 18 of I messaged VM and asked what the fuck with no reply.
My advice be patient cause when it does arrive I can verify you will be happy.
Top notch seller with product to match.
Sorry for doubting you VM, I will be ordering again.
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By asking for people's info again it shows that he clearly *intends* to get everybody taken care of. Otherwise telling people he lost their info etc would be a pretty strange move if you plan to just blow em off. I think dude just hit a fucked up sot. It'll be aight.
Wulong2, I've never done meth. If not for VMM's fire sale where I could try a small purchase, I doubt I would have sought it out. I'm just not big on speed anymore. I am anxious to see what all the fuss is about, though. I wanna see what this thing is that so many people can't put down. But, I have had days long sessions talking about various interesting subjects while smoking crack and drinking. My buddy, who is dead now from a heart attack whilst smoking rock, was a veitnam vet. He got $6000 a month, 100% disable from action. He would buy an oz of powder at a time and all were welcome at his house to smoke for free. Even though he gave the shit away freely, people still chose to steal from him. There towards the end it was just me him and his wife. Cooking coke in the microwave and talking about all manner of science shit. 4-5 days was not uncommon.
I miss ol boy. He was a good dude.
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I miss ol boy. He was a good dude.
Do you regret losing your friend to crack? I would, and I'd feel guilty for enabling and encouraging his behavior if he had a heart attack, and had left his wife in this world alone.
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I can't see VMM listing any longer.
I had gotten a package from him in February, and even though it took a while, it was great. I never finalized early, and it had to go into a resolution where I gave him an extension and finally got the stuff. It was the best shit ever.
Forward to March 2nd, the first day of his 'fire sale'. Even though something didn't feel right, I said 'fuck it' and went for it. Within seconds he requested I finalize (but wasn't asked that it was mandatory). All he said was "I got your package made and ready to send, if you finalize, I'll send it RIGHT now." Alarm bells in my head were HELLA dinging this time. So before I hit that finalize button, I read every single forum post and feed back to see if I should do it or not. The general conclusion I was able to gather was that he was a legit person, just took his time, and was well worth doing it.
So, I went ahead, and did it.
Now, its been like what 37 days? Numerous emails have been sent back and forth to him. Same promises made to me, like my last encounter with him. So I wasn't really worried. Then after the 30th day, I was like 'fuck it, there's no point in hoping. He might have screwed me, or he might have not. I can keep on sending him messages after messages but I know its going to be a cycle that's always going to get me hoping again. And that's worst feeling of all.
Also my messages were spaced out every 2 weeks and always in a respectable manner; that is, no threats, accusations or anything of that sort. I always try to be polite and actually empathize with everyone. I like to be nice even when I know I'm getting fucked. It's just my nature not to fret.
Looking back, I believe I might have been the lucky one than some people here (my heart goes to all that lost more than I did, and I'm not well off so I know the feeling of losing money that you have worked hard for). For me it was only 10 bitcoins. Also I believe that the money I lost went in to giving me a great learning experience. Even though it was so hard to stop believing that my item will get here, I think I finally have come to terms. And in the end, I didn't come out empty handed--I got fucked well and will never forget it. Even though at the cost of trusting people less. :-(
I can also see that all of VMM listing is down, even his main page. So I'm not sure if this means it's an end of an era or not. If it is, I'd see VMM as a man that took a controlled item with GREAT purity and was the FIRST person to spread it to people ALL over the world through this great system known as SR. That is quite an accomplishment. Plus all good things must come to an end. So even though I know some people are feeling indignant, and you have every right to, I hope people won't taint his image. I mean who knows what happened; everyone is fighting some sort of battle.
-EOE
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you cant see vortex anymore because admin have suspended his account until he gets all outstanding orders out. i know this cos i messaged sr vendor support asking why he has disappeared from the site as like you i was worried once his page had gone.
i have been very supportive of vmm up to now but i have spent 50+ BTC with him and only ever seen 0.5g but i still have one order in the resolution center for 10btc (fire Sale) and my first missing order goes all the way back to january 2012
i was being so supportive before because he was coming on here and updating us and at the time he was answering my messages now he has not even read the 2 i have sent in the last week
i really dont care about the product anymore i would just like my money refunded if you are reading this vortex please would you be good enough and refund me my money cos like the guy on the last post i am not a rich person and takes me two hole weeks to earn what i have lost with you
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BTW, everybody chill the fuck out and hold tight. I just got my shit today, and I'm domestic.
The Milkman will deliver.
That's not fish you smell...it's the aroma of thousands of nonfunctional fried brain cells.
Mmmm, the smell of amines!
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I miss ol boy. He was a good dude.
Do you regret losing your friend to crack? I would, and I'd feel guilty for enabling and encouraging his behavior if he had a heart attack, and had left his wife in this world alone.
This man spent his 19th birthday in his first firefight. The shit he told me was horrible. He did what he wanted to do, period. I was hardly enabling anyone. I honestly don't even know where you got that. One grown man decides to smoke cocaine and the other is called an enabler because he didn't die? I don't generally hang out with weak people who I influence to do things. My friends usually do their own thing as grown ups and I choose to participate or not.
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Just want to say I feel for all of you guys who still haven't been refunded or got product. If its glimmer of hope he refunded me for my 10btc last week although it took 4 days after the first time he said he sent it to finally get him to send it. Hopefully he makes it right and gets his shit sorted.
The thing that sucks is I drove each time to check the mailbox where my orders go to, for like 14 days straight with disappointment before finding how he never sent.
I received the same thing "its already packed finalize now and I will ship it tonight."
He was the #1 seller for meth, has to be making tons of cash. Just ship the shit when you say you do and if you have to many orders stop selling for a day or two.
That's the only thing that scares me about him scamming. He told so many people finalize and I will ship knowing damn well that he didn't plan on shipping.
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I'd like to see Vortex return as the #1 supplier of this product but I suppose only time will tell. While it is possible, I don't find it easy to label him as the kind to take the money and run. There were many opportunities for him to do that in the past but orders still ended up coming through. I hope he shows up on the forums soon to update us on the situation.
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Yea he refunded a good ammount of people and if he wants taking the money and running obviously that would have been the last thing he would do.
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BTW, everybody chill the fuck out and hold tight. I just got my shit today, and I'm domestic.
The Milkman will deliver.
That's not fish you smell...it's the aroma of thousands of nonfunctional fried brain cells.
No, that smell isn't fish, or brain cells frying, it's the smell of bullshit coming from someone who is either VMM using a sock puppet, a cop who is sucking VMM's dick, or one of the lucky few who actually ordered and received from this selective scammer. Thank God SR finally put his account on suspension, so no one else has to go through what I went through. I ordered from him cause the price was right, but it's been 37 days since I finalized early, and I've gotten nothing but excuses and runarounds. What a horrible experience I wouldn't wish on anybody. I don't like saying his name, because I am thoroughly disgusted with his behavior, but now I just call him VMS: VortexMilkScam.
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No, that smell isn't fish, or brain cells frying, it's the smell of bullshit coming from someone who is either VMM using a sock puppet, a cop who is sucking VMM's dick, or one of the lucky few who actually ordered and received from this selective scammer. Thank God SR finally put his account on suspension, so no one else has to go through what I went through. I ordered from him cause the price was right, but it's been 37 days since I finalized early, and I've gotten nothing but excuses and runarounds. What a horrible experience I wouldn't wish on anybody. I don't like saying his name, because I am thoroughly disgusted with his behavior, but now I just call him VMS: VortexMilkScam.
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The sad thing is that people will still give 5/5 reviews even after all the false promises and waiting a month a half. Come on guys, to get 5/5 in my opinion, a seller should send out your order within 48 hrs of your ordering it, and you get it within a reasonable time thereafter. I think that if people actually do get their shit THE MOST vortex should be getting is 3/5. He probably deserves a 2/5 simply because you actually do get your product or else it would be a 1/5.
I understand all the posts saying "calm down guys, you will all get your stuff, it jut takes a little bit" That's great and all, but I'm not holding my breath. I think that we all have a duty to review this guy fairly because there are a lot of buyers who don't go on the forums and don't know what this guy is up too. We need to give him the review he deserves to show everyone the type of seller he actually is. Just my 2 cents.....
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FIRST OF ALL.....no one is going to lose anything.
SECONDLY....Wow.....Buried with nearly 400 unread messages.....SLOW DOWN....my ratings are already tanked...seller status off...and the last week i put myself on stealth and vacation...no one is going to get scammed.
THIRD......I have made good on almost all my pending and lost orders......those who continue to say im scamming or demand this and that.....go screw yourself.
I am taking losses like a MOFO.
How many of you would have still been here.......still making good and continuing to take further losses to buy more prouct (at a loss) just to fulfill the lost orders?
how many, I ask.......NONE.
I am the last breed of honest vendors.......like it or not, a couple of associates and I nearly lost my life, freedom, and someone close to us basically went dark side and stole product and got caught up coindicentally and tried to rat on us......
Do you F'ing understand when I said I had to WIPE my old machine clean with a bunch pf pending order info that I couldnt save in the haste of the moment.......do you guys understand what losses of a 3/4 pound of crystal means?
plus I lost in excess of 15K.....stolen orders and now the fool is popped...so obviously i want nothing to do with that clown......I relocated and all is well..i was laying low, and only had one day to ship shit out this week......a few clients received so far...I had no funds allocated to purchasing back lost product until now......last nite, and tonite a SHITload of orders went out, and the following applies tomorrow and the next day until I am back.
Then when I am back, I will throw seasoning on the naysayers' feet, so it tastes good when its lodged deep in their oral cavity after seeing me bounce back.
Its nothin to me, a couple ounces lost, come back with a pound of raw.
Have faith, and I will be back 100%
Patience truly is a virtue.
V
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Dont think I dont feel you guys' pain of ordering something and receiving nothing.....
But you will get what you paid for regardless of my circumstances.
Even if I lost everything, got locked up and in solitary I would still find a way to relay these messages and make right with everyone.
I will NEVER scam, or turn darkside......beleeeee dat'
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Hey keep the chin up brotha, I got hope and confidence that when you told me my order was in enroute two days ago it is, my experience is when people take the money and run...they just up and leave without any trace or communication, I'm hoping for my little pack in the mail tomorrow but will waite patiently because I know others have receicved this week and I might be new to the board but not to the game and so far you've given every indication your taking every effort to make good on your end....there are alot of people that don't realize the dangers involved in being a vendor and i'm not downplaying other peoples frustration but want to encourage everyone to put things in a proper context. Also i have little regard for people who talk tough over a fucking computer message board...its a sign of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcibly in my opinion one flaming message makes its point and a string of them just makes you look like a crying little baby in the fetal position trying to posture yourself into looking like something you wish you were but don't have the balls to be. I got faith that when you told me its in enroute i can espect it soon that is the case. I certainly am not of the type of people so gutless and weak as to pose mindless threats over a keyboard. Bad things happen to good people, and I wish other people would act as if they had a sense of pride and character and a clue of how they represent themselves through their words instead of just acting like some tough guy with a PC. VMM has always responded in a timely manner to my concerns which when i got ripped off by steroid dealers in the past (which is the bulk of my experience with purchasing "controversial items" over the internet they never followed that pattern. I turned to SR to get away from the tweaker type's that were just a bunch of cats that you wouldn't allow near a school and to be able to do business in a much more proffessional way, yeah i've been dissapointed in how long it has taken but have to much self respect to make threats or stupid mindless posts in order to "show" how powerful i am with a keyboard at my disposal. Thank you VMM for being responsive and have confidence that i will recieve my package now that things on your end seem to be heading in the right trajectory. I hope other people with think twice about how they represent themselves in the future by the tone and content of their posts in the future. So Vortex my man keep the shipments coming and let the chirpy little craybabies do their worst and don't let them ruin it for the rest of us adults looking to take advantage of an alternative to dealing with the street scum that are way worse and offer much more risks in harm than do vendors of this site. my 2cents.
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wow vortex see it dont take much a few words and my faith is restored :) people understand you just need to keep in touch with us! going quite causes panic
i truly believe vortex is a honest guy, who has just hit a bad situation and he took the same steps to assure his safety as any other one of us would have
im sorry to here you have lost so much product and cash but it really does show what a vendor is made off when the shit hits the fan and he still wants to make good, i will be the first person to mail SR Admin and tell them i have my order and tell them to reinstate him once i have my order
thankyou vortex i will continue to wait :)
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Shit I thought the "Vortex experience" was his main commodity, now people are saying it's more about the product?! Obviously our beloved Vortex has a lot on his hands, but in my limited interactions with him he conveyed a degree of goodvibes that probably makes him a total enigma among people who sell methamphetamine. I'm sure his ops are chaotic as hell, and I can't understand his strategies sometimes. I mean really he should have just raised his prices for awhile to slow the order flow...seems like he was getting inundated right at the worst time. But I'm no armchair VMM, I just wanted to drop in and say that I've only ordered from Vortex once, and we had an entertaining correspondence by the time the order was placed. As much as you can feel someone out over a medium like that (which you can't really, but let's relax that constraint), I came away with the impression that Vortex is good people. I would order from him again and expect something to show up with a few weeks, and probably not give it a second thought. I know there's a good deal of hate towards Vortex but I'll stand by him any day. You just have be know what you're getting into before you order: "The Vortex experience!"
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i dont think anybody hates him, people are just frustrated cos as everyone knows money is hard come by these days and if you spend $50-$100 on an order and then your waiting 40-50days for it to show up it gets annoying!
im sure he will pull though this hard time and prove all the haters wrong and i would stand beside him as well, i do feel sorry for him as a massive blow like this could have finished him off but NO he is still there, still working hard to restock and get orders out and for that he has my respect
like he said himself he is one of the few honest old school venders :)
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I appreciate your situation and believe you will make it right. On the flip side i FE on nearly $1400 that was destined to other peoples addresses. I cant get those details again but if i could get a refund atleast i could offer them a re purchase or refund. Thank you VMM for staying with the SR community
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Good to hear from you vortex! Most of us understand what you're going through.
Let us know when you can on how its going. :)
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I'm not going to give you too much shit because you are working to make things correct, but I highly doubt its for the "love" of the community. This is about cash. However, it's no stretch of the imagination to assume you make a lot of money here, and this SNAFU is going to cut into your profit margins. Thus, you are doing this to save your "business." But you write like you're doing those that ordered from you a favor. 400 emails to answer? Hmmm, that means you had at least had 400 orders. What's your cheapest item? $40? 40 x 400 = $16,000. Come on..... you lost $15K, right?
How many of you would have still been here.......still making good and continuing to take further losses to buy more prouct (at a loss) just to fulfill the lost orders? how many, I ask.......NONE.
You're very wrong, here. You're taking the loses like any smart business person would do, to salvage your income stream. Plus, you've got a great product.... in general.... You could probably stab 50% of your customers in the face, and they'd still buy from you. "ah, he was just having a bad day..."
The problem with you is your sense of entitlement. You write as if you're working above and beyond what is required of you. Dude, people give you X for Y. If you accept X, you are bound to fulfill Y. That is it. End of story. Whatever is happening in your life is meaningless. Your goal should be to do everything possible to rectify the situation. Not list 4,000 excuses. You have 400 emails to respond to? Quit fucking writing in here and calling people assholes, answer your emails with honesty, and you'll gain respect. If I had an outstanding order and you said, hey, I'm in a bind, it's going to be another 15 days. I would say thank you and wait. Not come to this forum under an assumed name to trash you.
Problem's happen, yes, I understand this, but this is not an isolated incident. It's a pattern. You don't understand the problem. You think that if someone receives their product, all is good. No, all is not good. It's not about being scammed, it about you fulfilling your obligations once you accept payment. Part of the obligation is sending the product within a reasonable time-frame. If you tell me it will take 37 days to receive my order, I'm cool with this. Not much of a hypothesis, but a hypothesis it is nonetheless, you're selling shit you don't have....
Excuse after excuse after excuse.... seriously if this is true, I fucking feel for you, but man, this shit is getting very hard to believe. What's that show on the history channel - not when it was actually about history - Ice Road Truckers. Apparently, it is the most dangerous job. I beg to differ, reading about all the problems Meth dealers have here, leads me to think selling Meth is far more dangerous. I'm not just saying you, VMM. Collectively, the laundry list of "reasons" is amazing. I don't think anyone could come up with a fresh one since everything has been used. You list about 15 just in this post alone, and even claim you and your associates were nearly killed. For me, I'd say fuck it, and refund everyone and move on..... but no, you want to stay and "serve" the community. Fucking hilarious that people believe this shit.
Patience truly is a virtue.
How much patience is required to become virtuous?
To those that say "you're buying drugs".... what do you expect? I expect to get what I ordered from someone that is one of the top sellers. Yup, this is not ebay or amazon.com, but we're paying a fucking premium for a service that is supposedly secure. In some cases, the prices are triple... so yea, without communication, I think those who made an order deserve an honest estimate.
Okay, that was more bitching than I had planned, but I will say this: At least you're trying. Easy to say when I'm not waiting on day 437. Also, if those excuses are true.... best of luck to you. It does suck, but you knew what you were getting into, right?
You need a manager...
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I'm sure some of this is directed at me, so I'll indulge you. Your entire post is a string of assumptive and conclusory logic that fails, big time.
Also i have little regard for people who talk tough over a fucking computer message board...its a sign of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcibly in my opinion one flaming message makes its point and a string of them just makes you look like a crying little baby in the fetal position trying to posture yourself into looking like something you wish you were but don't have the balls to be.
No idea what this is about. Might be a combination of your life experience mixed with fantasy or self description, I do know or care. "Talking tough"? I'm fucking 40. I can barely walk to my mailbox without getting tired. I was pissed. Nothing more nothing less. Life does not boil down to a couple of neanderthals that problem solve by beating each other. I have little regard for those types. [kinda boxed you in there, huh.... any response you make will come off as a hypocrite or neanderthal-ish]
Additionally, you are reading written words without intonation, so how do you logically conclude that someone is "forcibly" expressing themselves. Of course, it's a message board, so yea, it's about expressing oneself. But forcibly? Your mind is adding the information beyond w=the written words. I don't want to waste our time forcibly explaining the philosophical notion behind reading and intonation. Word are word - the reader is adding the context through life experience. Either way, point taken.
Bad things happen to good people
Good things happen to bad people as well... should not this nullify your point?
VMM has always responded in a timely manner to my concerns which when i got ripped off by steroid dealers in the past (which is the bulk of my experience with purchasing "controversial items" over the internet they never followed that pattern.
Have you been reading? Or might you just be cherry picking? Not everyone is getting those timely response. Would your reaction be the same if all communication was cut off?
I turned to SR to get away from the tweaker type's that were just a bunch of cats that you wouldn't allow near a school and to be able to do business in a much more proffessional way, yeah i've been dissapointed in how long it has taken but have to much self respect to make threats or stupid mindless posts in order to "show" how powerful i am with a keyboard at my disposal.
Yea... I doubt you'd think I was a "tweaker," if you met me in person. Let me tell you why I was pissed and why others are, since 2 + 2 is not equaling 4 for everyone.
What VMM failed to comprehend is that he fucked up a serious part of my life. I had a major project to finish, and relying on his word, I used the remainder of my adderall based on the time frame he gave me for delivery, I even factoring in some "fuck" up time. Like I said, I'm not a tweaker, but I do need my amphetamines as most professionals (note the spelling) do - we just call them smart drugs. Anyhow, the amount of money he lost is a fraction of the long-term business he cost me. Let me rephrase, he did "not" directly cause my loses, but indirectly, his word (AKA trust) did. Had he just PM'ed me with "hey, I got issues, it's going to be XX amount of days" instead of "Yea dude, I can totally get that to you!" Nope, I got the latter when the former would have solved many problems for many people. All I'm asking for is the golden rule be applied - treat those as you would like to be treated. I treated him like he treated me, but much more calm than I should have.
I've spent about 4 grand through this site (about 100 transaction), and not once, have I had an issue. Always delivered, reasonable time frame, well packaged, excellent attention to detail. Overall, I have much respect for the vendors. I'm also surprised by the creativity, VMM was one of these people. I can fathom that the addicts can be annoying as hell, but it's not like VMM is a stockbroker managing investments. Those clients are likely annoying as fuck too, when the market is tanking. Don't like the clients, find a new line of work.
Point is, not everyone is just trying to get high and forget life, some are quite the opposite. I did learn a valuable lesson... so I guess some good did come from this, even though my kid has to go to community college instead of... ah, I'm kidding.
As I said before, I commend VMM for make good on some of his orders, but if you're in the "almost" category, you must understand why it's difficult to share your optimism?
Oh, one more thing, can you read this in your most effeminate voice because I don't want you to think I'm curled up like a bitch in the fetal position crying about money or drugs?
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FIRST OF ALL.....no one is going to lose anything.
SECONDLY....Wow.....Buried with nearly 400 unread messages.....SLOW DOWN....my ratings are already tanked...seller status off...and the last week i put myself on stealth and vacation...no one is going to get scammed.
THIRD......I have made good on almost all my pending and lost orders......those who continue to say im scamming or demand this and that.....go screw yourself.
I am taking losses like a MOFO.
How many of you would have still been here.......still making good and continuing to take further losses to buy more prouct (at a loss) just to fulfill the lost orders?
how many, I ask.......NONE.
I am the last breed of honest vendors.......like it or not, a couple of associates and I nearly lost my life, freedom, and someone close to us basically went dark side and stole product and got caught up coindicentally and tried to rat on us......
Do you F'ing understand when I said I had to WIPE my old machine clean with a bunch pf pending order info that I couldnt save in the haste of the moment.......do you guys understand what losses of a 3/4 pound of crystal means?
plus I lost in excess of 15K.....stolen orders and now the fool is popped...so obviously i want nothing to do with that clown......I relocated and all is well..i was laying low, and only had one day to ship shit out this week......a few clients received so far...I had no funds allocated to purchasing back lost product until now......last nite, and tonite a SHITload of orders went out, and the following applies tomorrow and the next day until I am back.
Then when I am back, I will throw seasoning on the naysayers' feet, so it tastes good when its lodged deep in their oral cavity after seeing me bounce back.
Its nothin to me, a couple ounces lost, come back with a pound of raw.
Have faith, and I will be back 100%
Patience truly is a virtue.
V
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Dont think I dont feel you guys' pain of ordering something and receiving nothing.....
But you will get what you paid for regardless of my circumstances.
Even if I lost everything, got locked up and in solitary I would still find a way to relay these messages and make right with everyone.
I will NEVER scam, or turn darkside......beleeeee dat'
Hello V,
Could you please tell me if you have sent my order yet?
Thanks
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can you tell me the same please?
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Could you tell me too Vmm? I have two orders with you. You said to me at the beginning of the week that I would receive this week and I still have nothing. I paid extra for priority shipping and its been almost 3 weeks for me.
Im glad you have everything worked out and I will order again in the future. You're post gets a two thumbs up from me. Ignore all of the negative energy in these forums and keep up these types of post because there are a lot of us that are understanding and cheering you on but we just want to know what is going on with our individual pending orders......I can only speak for myself but when I keep receiving pm's and read post saying I am going to receive this day, then that day, at the end of the week- and every time i get nothing.....it can be very exhausting. I hope you can understand that. <3
Blessings, M.
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Im glad you have everything worked out and I will order again in the future. You're post gets a two thumbs up from me. Ignore all of the negative energy in these forums and keep up these types of post because there are a lot of us that are understanding and cheering you on but we just want to know what is going on with our individual pending orders......I can only speak for myself but when I keep receiving pm's and read post saying I am going to receive this day, then that day, at the end of the week- and every time i get nothing.....it can be very exhausting. I hope you can understand that. <3
i second that +1 well said :)
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I'm curious whether or not mine has been sent as well. Sounds like there's an echo in here ;)
I really do appreciate the update though Vortex. Glad you were able to navigate out of a sticky situation.
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I was just about to send a PM to VMM w/my addy and a two-line note inquiring about my order (it FE'd only 16 days ago, and it seems that there are lots of ppl in the queue ahead of me). BUT with VMM's note about putting shit-tonnes of product in the mail, I guess I can give it another few days.
Besides, I'm not sure he can get PMs anyway.
My philosophy regarding this particular transaction is "well, this wouldn't be the first time I got ripped off by a drug dealer". And to be fair, I only deal with the ones who ripped me off when they were the last resort (yep, I went back to them, in spite of getting ripped off before). Fact is, I want something that is very difficult to obtain, and I sometimes compromise my principals. This is the cost of doing/buying/using drugs. So, IF I do get ripped off by VMM, then I won't do any more business with him. Unless he was the last meth dealer I could find.
I also won't go on some sort of pious rampage about "vendor quality" or "business ethics" or "give me what I deserve" because at the end of the day it means nothing, and motivates no one.
There's still one thing, though. I am very confident that VMM isn't going to rip me off. He has always come through in the past, and I think he will this time, too, somehow.
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So 4 weeks ago I ordered 250mg sent to a friend's house, supposed to arrive before his birthday. I ordered priority, 7 days later I asked VMM where my order was and he said it was shipped that day (Saturday), a week later, not arrived, priority shipped, I asked him wtf was up, he said there was a security issue, and that he can't find my order and asked what I wanted to do, I told him I just wanted a refund so I can take my business elsewhere, it's been 2 weeks and still haven't heard back from him, looks like he's on vacation too. Needless to say, I'll never use this vendor again, and if I wanted at least average service I'd stick wtih Heisenberg or DubG if I were ever into methamphetamine. The 5 BTC isn't what I care about, it's the deplorable communication and miscommunication. Not what I look for in a vendor.
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skim backwards in this thread a bit, the situation's been explained fairly specifically now
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First of all, Fuk_this.....i honestly wish youd shut the fuckup and become a vendpr, then become successful....then get robbed and have associates try to snitch on you......lemme see how good youll be doing you fucking fuck =]
Second of all......I WISH every message equals one order.
You know nothing about how it goes so you are looking lame right now.
This SR isnt about money right now its about getting everyone what they paid for cuz im not a scumbag like you.
EVERYONE who is asking and have not received, yes i have sent your order this weekend to be received next week.
You have my word, just like this early week and last weekend the backlogs started to dissipate.
I have a couple dozen more orders to clear as I couldnt afford to buy back the product fast enuff last week that I klost.
Bear with me
V
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GREAT NEWS....you all will be so fucking happy next week....
"I'ma survivor, ima survivor......"
lol
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hahahaha sick response man....i put in a .25 cheeky order in that is still in processing. was wondering if i'd be cancellin the order but hopefully not!?!? brap brap!
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GREAT NEWS....you all will be so fucking happy next week....
"I'ma survivor, ima survivor......"
lol
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good vortex you pulled though it :)
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EVERYONE who is asking and have not received, yes i have sent your order this weekend to be received next week.
You have my word, just like this early week and last weekend the backlogs started to dissipate.
Thanks mate!
I shall assume that I am included in those who have been recompensed!
Please let me know if this isn't the case, thanks again.
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Here's to hoping I can get shipped within vortex's next few deliveries too. Don't have your new PGP key though. Anyone here with it?
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First of all, Fuk_this.....i honestly wish youd shut the fuckup and become a vendpr, then become successful....
Guess what, a lot of people have "wishes" in this thread. I bet some "wish" you'd fulfill your obligation.
I am successful, and I do work for myself. What you failed to understand is that I'm not fucking with you anymore, but offering friendly advice. I think I may have even apologized.
It matters not what you choose to do for a living, it's how you do it. This shit is not hard. Running a business rests on two principles - accounts payable and accounts receivable. Master that and you can run Microsoft or a lemonade stand.
However, rather than rectify the issues, which could be done in a few hours..... You can continue to whine about this or that, but it makes not a bit of difference to anyone that wants either (a) their money or (b) willing to wait. Spend two hours writing emails, and offer those two options. If you follow through on what you promise, you find yourself in a much better place. Gawd, I know you are well versed in the use of bulk messaging. If someone does not reply.... it's out of your hands - you have the evidence, and cannot act further. If someone is being an unreasonable dick, tell them so in a polite manner. You fucked up, not them. Grasp this: people that have pending orders with you have a right to be pissed at you.
What sickens me is that you still, after all this, proffer excuses, like you're the victim. You may have been a victim of a crime, but that issues is separate from SR. Ever heard of the butterfly effect? Try picking up a book instead of a pipe. Like I said, I relied on your word and our implicit contract, and it cost me a lot of money. But, I'm not whining about it because it's separate; although, you were part of the cause, I bare the responsibility of preparing for the effect. Do you understand this? It's important. What happened outside of that contract has no effect on the contract itself. Your tragidy surely fucked you up, but that does not mean you can avoid your business obligations. You lost a shitload of money, got robbed, or a unicorn ate your stash. How does that change our bargain? It's so incredibly fundamental, I am surprised I have to explain it. My poor judgment was believing you were a serious vendor. I could have handled a delay, but the BOLD FACE lie cost me more money than you'll ever make in your illustrious career as a drug dealer. What piss me off even more, is that I did this with the knowledge that you've threaten to
I failed to have a contingency plan; instead, I mistakenly trusted someone I did not know - YOU.
So... let me bring you up to speed, if you're not picking up what I'm putting down. Whatever happened to you, should not affected your business, if the entrepreneur you claim to be.. Do you have a family? Do you live paycheck to paycheck, if you do, then you are stupid. NEWSFLASH - shit happens, always. You should have had a contingency plan in place that would have mitigated the damage you caused. Unfortunately, I believe the complexities of this simple concept fail to take root.
The truth of the matter, my opinion is this: you don't have the money to refund people nor the Meth to fulfill all your obligations, and this is why it's taking so long. Moral of the story - fucking use your melon, plan ahead. How about some honesty and integrity and state the problem right up front? Some people read very closely.
get robbed and have associates try to snitch on you......lemme see how good youll be doing you fucking fuck =] Second of all......I WISH every message equals one order.
You're a fucking drug dealer! Did it ever occur to you that these issues might arise? Are you the first drug dealer to be robbed or as you say, "snitched on"? Of course not, again this is where grey matter helps.
You know nothing about how it goes so you are looking lame right now.
This is funny. Do you really think I care how lame people think I am? Or as you say, "Looking lame." Seriously? I made this account a few days ago, and I have more Karma points than ever? Couple this with the numerous PMs thanking me for stepping up, I'd say you're grossly underestimating who or what is "lame." But, VMM, we all know you have a long history of underestimating the importance of the situation
This SR isnt about money right now its about getting everyone what they paid for cuz im not a scumbag like you.
This does not even make sense... Just leave it be, at any moment, I could tear you a new asshole faster than you could offer an excuse for another delay. Do you really want to battle with me?
EVERYONE who is asking and have not received, yes i have sent your order this weekend to be received next week.
AWESOME! I say, this is it.... you've made the assertion: you have again lied. Would it not have bee better to say, as far as my records indicate, most everyone's orders have been processed." Because this:
[/quote] You have my word[/quote]
does not mean much, anymore.
Oh but wait........ there is more, and it's so incredibly foolish I cannot stop laughing about it.
I have a couple dozen more orders to clear as I couldnt afford to buy back the product fast enuff last week that I klost.
Am I reading this correctly? You have at least 24 orders that have not been sent.... yet a sentence ago, you said EVERYONE is taken care of.... odd. It's called a pattern.
Again, I commend you for trying to do your best to make things right, but personally, what is right - starts with the truth. You cannot even write a post without contradicting yourself. Balls in your court, bro. I'm done, but I will react it you challenge my intellect (which is very funny) or disparage my good name: Fuk_this. Relax, you're not going to win this one, so quit drawing attention to it.
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!!!Never Ever Vortexmilkman again!!!!
1. He keeps ignoring normal messages / or is etrem slow on them/needs 3 reminders to answer
2. He just lies again and again ( I ordered 4th march, guess what, got nothing, no refund, lately even no answer,..but I have 2-3 mails of him which said he sent it, then 2 mails which said that he send it bla bla...WTF)
3. He seems to have major problems atm , ok can happen,..BUT the way how he tries to handle these fuckups is the best way to fuck up all his "reputation" in days (lying lying lying, excuses and lying,..just tell me that you cant refund or ship me atm,..maybe never,...but treating me like a 4 years dumb child,..jeez,..how lame is that !!!!!!!!!
4. His FE Politics,..FUCK THAT CRAP !!!!!
Total transactions: 21
Total spent: ฿666.85
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 4.45%
Member for: 3 months
are my stats but I had to FE (for the trusted vendor LOL) ,..
If you want FE then do your job right,..be on time with shipping and answers / Info about the process, and DONT lie...If you cant (and you just caaaant) then dont charge FE like the king in the ring!!!
Myself: I never will FE with someone again,..FE is just a big crap,..I did it 2 times (trusted vendors,..ridiculous) and got fucked 2 times,..no shipping no refund
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Myself: I never will FE with someone again,..FE is just a big crap,..I did it 2 times (trusted vendors,..ridiculous) and got fucked 2 times,..no shipping no refund
not all venders are the same i have come across some really good vendors on SR its just a shame a few let us all down. i know some vendors even ask for FE when buyers have good stats like mine
Total transactions: 55
Total spent: ฿474.82
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 7 months
i dont get asked to FE early very often and only when its a large amount but i was asked by vmm on my first ever order with him but to be fair on him he never asked me to do so ever again after that one :)
im giving the guy 1 final chance now he has publicly said he has got himself back on track so for me the minute he did was the FINAL deadline so it cant take no more than 7days from then :) if it comes by then i will use him again in the future but until he proves himself to be quicker on delivery i wont be FE with this vender again :)
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EVERYONE who is asking and have not received, yes i have sent your order this weekend to be received next week.
You have my word, just like this early week and last weekend the backlogs started to dissipate.
Calling you out on this.
Last week I messaged you over on the main site, asking you why my 0.5g order, for which I FE'd over a month ago, still hadn't arrived. You responded by saying that you never sent it in the first place, because you had lost my order details. You told me to send you the details and address again so that you could fulfill my order. I did. Encrypted my address with your new key.
My message is still sitting unread in your inbox after 7 days. So how did you manage to ship my order without knowing the address?
Enough is enough. Don't bother shipping my order, I'd like a refund please.
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I know a fair amount of ppl are pissed off a VM right now, but this guy is a legit vendor i have had many packages through him and have NEVER EVER had an issue. He is quick to respond and more often than not emails me the day the package is due to arrive to check it made it.
It seems he has had a major issue internally and I always got the impression there was more than 1 person behind the VM mask.
I am also waiting on product but due to past dealings and his rep on SR I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. For fuck sake we are buying drugs on the internet and then shipping them across borders, issues happen! If it was easy then everyone would do it, and if you don't like the risk involved go buy drugs from your local dealer.
Everyone needs to chill and wait...
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VMM, you shipped shit meth to me... No excuses... This was when the sale first started... Before all your 'trouble' started happening... And it was still shit meth...
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Ouch, I'd like you to define what "lame" means to you because we're likely not (your favorite band from the 90s) insync. Notably, the three posts directly after mine. You've fucked them.... Oh wait, you shipped every ones order this weekend, right? Well, except for those unlucky 24. Far from a math wiz, but that's about 27% of your customer base, right? So basically, if you order from VMM, you have a one in three chance of being scammed, and then, if he does not like you, he may threaten you with law enforcement... Is this what SR was designed to be? [Note to SR admin: Adam Smith and his theory of the "invisible hand" is truth... dump this guy and let the market handle itself. Once you dump this loser, a better, much more qualified vendor will replace him..... although, I think it's happen already]
Yes, VMM, I am "making myself look lame" by calling you out, but unfortunately, you're just not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and it is you that is LAME. Thus, I 'm forced to explain simple concepts to a grown ass man, like he's in the third grade. Sack up, be a man, and pay your debt........ if you cannot pay, then offer an honest explanation - not some story about how Harry Potter robbed a gang of midgets riding unicorns while snitching on rivals. Oh yea.... and almost killed.
I'm thinking of starting a different lottery on SR; it will be something like, "What will VMM's next excuse be..." More sage advice: learn from VroomVroom and or the dude from Breaking Bad - I cannot spell his name right now, ha.
One of many:
I appreciate your posts to VMM man. That guy needs to be put in his place and I feel that you accurately described the way a lot of us (his customers) are feeling! Seriously, fuck this guy!! I have not dealt with a worse seller on here and I have been here for like a year.
Anyways thanks again man for being the voice of how a lot of us feel!
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I finalized well over a month ago, I cant keep track of the days because my feedback only tells me one month. Vortex hasn't read the last message I sent which was 5 days ago and only the second I sent the whole time, and I've been polite in those messages.I feel like I'm out a hundred dollars which sucks but isn't the end of the world. But Vortex keeps updating here promising no one will be left behind and shit like that. I know others are in my boat and I just want some sort of closure.
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Same thing happened to me!
He said he lost his PGP password but was still going to make good on my order.
(mind you, after he reupp'd twice and told me my order had shipped twice already but it hadn't)
He then asked for me to privnote him my address.
He hasn't read that msg..hasn't read the one 4 days after that..and hasn't read the one 2 days after that...
There's no way he shipped my order out cause he said he lost my address and never read the privnote with my address in it.
@Vortex Just read my PM...Shit, honestly, a refund would be better at this point in time, but either way would make me happy, I just don't wanna be out $110 of my very hard earned money...I work a shit job making minimum wage, cmon man..Do you know how long it took me to make that money? Nearly 20 hours of flippin burgers. -.-
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Ouch, I'd like you to define what "lame" means to you because we're likely not (your favorite band from the 90s) insync. Notably, the three posts directly after mine. You've fucked them.... Oh wait, you shipped every ones order this weekend, right? Well, except for those unlucky 24. Far from a math wiz, but that's about 27% of your customer base, right? So basically, if you order from VMM, you have a one in three chance of being scammed, and then, if he does not like you, he may threaten you with law enforcement... Is this what SR was designed to be? [Note to SR admin: Adam Smith and his theory of the "invisible hand" is truth... dump this guy and let the market handle itself. Once you dump this loser, a better, much more qualified vendor will replace him..... although, I think it's happen already]
Yes, VMM, I am "making myself look lame" by calling you out, but unfortunately, you're just not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and it is you that is LAME. Thus, I 'm forced to explain simple concepts to a grown ass man, like he's in the third grade. Sack up, be a man, and pay your debt........ if you cannot pay, then offer an honest explanation - not some story about how Harry Potter robbed a gang of midgets riding unicorns while snitching on rivals. Oh yea.... and almost killed.
I'm thinking of starting a different lottery on SR; it will be something like, "What will VMM's next excuse be..." More sage advice: learn from VroomVroom and or the dude from Breaking Bad - I cannot spell his name right now, ha.
One of many:
I appreciate your posts to VMM man. That guy needs to be put in his place and I feel that you accurately described the way a lot of us (his customers) are feeling! Seriously, fuck this guy!! I have not dealt with a worse seller on here and I have been here for like a year.
Anyways thanks again man for being the voice of how a lot of us feel!
Im not gonna find it to quote it but this has happened before a few weeks ago. He said he shipped everything and everyone got giddy but low and behold something crazy happened and 20 and didn't make it out.
Suprise Suprise
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If you're having troubles, I recommend going with VroomVroom.
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RIP VMM
this thread is just for lulz now
come on guys stop hanging on to the hope of receiving anything.
fuk this is right, vmm says everything shipped, then says its not. lie after fucking lie.
how many of you guys resent your delivery info? how many of you have checked to see if that message has been read?
im on 30 days now since ordering, 10 days since resending info NOTHING
sure vmm had a solid rep, thats why we FE, but its over now.
what a way to rip people, start a fire sale.
how many orders would he have received thru this?
then come on the forum and tell everyone things are fine???
and then he re-opens his fire sale to rip more people
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I wish I could say, "I win." But far too many got ripped off to celebrate. The laws of supply and demand will handle the void. I'd go with vroomvroom. He conducts his operation like a business.
VMM - if you read this, I want you to know what I never wrote but so dearly wanted to: you're a fucking idiot! Your next job will require you to say, "would you like fries with that order?" 3000 times a day.
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For all those saying goto VroomVroom, I had a order sitting with him for about 5 days, no reply to my message I sent nothing.. so I canceled and got refunded by SR.
I would say go for gold... and hope it works out better for you than what it did for me, when I tried to placed an order with that vendor.
I'm not going to keep beating a dead horse with my thoughts in this thread as obviously I have been receiving alot better communication from Vortex than alot of you's are reporting, I'm gonna sit out until I receive my 2 8balls from Vortex and I will report back then. :)
Did VMM get banned or leave or something? Just asking since his listing are down and everyone seems to be saying its over. Also how long ago were your issues with Vroom? Hes on Silc chat and usually answers fast on there if the pms are going unread.
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VMM is still alive and well, his listings are down until all past orders are fulfilled.
I'm pretty sure he'll be back in full swing before too long.
His stuff is pretty clean and mean....hanging for my next twirl on it.
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i've never dealt with him before but i did have him listed as a fave just in case. it looks to me that his account was suspended. any other updates from someone else? im assuming this means he should go into the scammers list by leech?
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Here's to hoping I can get shipped within vortex's next few deliveries too. Don't have your new PGP key though. Anyone here with it?
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I have asked for a refund and he is asking for my address. Not sure why that would be necessary. I am asking again.
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I have asked for a refund and he is asking for my address. Not sure why that would be necessary. I am asking again.
i am thinking now that maybe vmm is gone and this is LE, only LE would be dumb enough to ask for your address.
paranoia levels rising with the bust of farmers market. lol
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I've asked for a refund with no response...
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The thought did cross my mind that le was using his account after all the shit that went down. But I think those of you who have known him for a while would be able to tell that his posting style has changed. I guess it still is possible, though. Fucking scary.
I guess until I see that package I'll have to consider it a possibility.
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Why patriot, did you resend your addy to his new PGP key? I did yesterday after he sent his new key. Needless to say yall got me trippin, man.
vortex chime in bro
Before resending my addy I thought the same thing, but then still went with it after he replied. Damn idk i need some comfort bros...who else resent their address to his NEW key?
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@theshowcase- I ordered after the shit that happened where he needed addresses again. I didn't know about any of that when I ordered. I only sent mine once and he didn't ask for it again. So, are you saying that there is ANOTHER new key and he has needed addresses AGAIN recently, in the last couple days? If that's the case, I'll tell you what my gut says, but that could be wrong. If he has made yet another key, the third one, and needs addresses again for the third time, I would say it's not LE. I say that because a local police department would be out of their jurisdiction on something like this. It crosses state lines and international borders as well. That means they would have some of the smarter cops, ie FBI or whatnot, working on it. I don't think they would need to redo the shit so many times, in fact they would probably try to make shit as smooth as possible as to not alarm anyone. It just doesn't sound like something the FBI or any other agency that was versed in this type of thing would do. Local cops that do good to use the googles, yeah, but not the feds. Again, just my guess, which is no doubt a little bent towards the side of optimism.
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Yeah, I did nine days ago. Still hasn't been read, but hasn't been deleted either. Of course, a little part of me will be hoping my 8ball shows up, but I'm not going to hold my breath or get mad. This is life. If I take all the times I came out ahead and all times I didn't it works out to be even. Hell come to think about it I've probably screwed myself with stupid ass mistakes more than anyone else every could. Well there my philosophy for what it's worth. Everyone be safe and remember what you wish on others can just as easily happen to you.
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Has anyone received product who resent their address encrypted with this new key? He never asked for me to resend my address but seeing as I finalized early 28 days ago (the same time he told me he was sending "first thing in the AM") and never received anything, I don't imagine he still has the address I gave him. Yet he did say he had recently sent out all orders? Obviously this has already been determined but a couple things don't add up and until someone can report positively, I think we should be careful with VMM.
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@theshowcase- I ordered after the shit that happened where he needed addresses again. I didn't know about any of that when I ordered. I only sent mine once and he didn't ask for it again. So, are you saying that there is ANOTHER new key and he has needed addresses AGAIN recently, in the last couple days? If that's the case, I'll tell you what my gut says, but that could be wrong. If he has made yet another key, the third one, and needs addresses again for the third time, I would say it's not LE. I say that because a local police department would be out of their jurisdiction on something like this. It crosses state lines and international borders as well. That means they would have some of the smarter cops, ie FBI or whatnot, working on it. I don't think they would need to redo the shit so many times, in fact they would probably try to make shit as smooth as possible as to not alarm anyone. It just doesn't sound like something the FBI or any other agency that was versed in this type of thing would do. Local cops that do good to use the googles, yeah, but not the feds. Again, just my guess, which is no doubt a little bent towards the side of optimism.
Sorry for the confusion, the PGP you sent me at the top of this page is the same one he told me to resend my addy to. So I sent it, while also thinking this could be LE now. I just dont know what to believe anymore lol, paranoia has distorted my views man.
But in my optimistic view that it's still VMM trying to make right with everyone, I resent it. Guess we'll see if the package ends up here, and if it was shipped today, it should be here Thursday; Friday at the latest.
But yea, just to reiterate and clear confusion, no there wasn't a third change in his pgp key. Here's a toast in hopes we receive
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My wife always says "don't borrow trouble". That means that worrying about what's already done does no good. If we did fuck up and give LE our address we'll know later on if they act on that. That would be bad enough, no need to add weeks of anguish on top of that.
If I let it get to me I'll be a fucking nutcase. I choose to believe it's going to be okay. If I have to believe one thing or another, I'd rather believe the thing that doesn't ruin every minute of everyday for the next god knows how long. VMM can set everybody's mind at ease by getting some orders in the hands of customers. When that happens everyone will start breathing easier.
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Yeah I know what you mean bro, you're right. So I decided to read the past 6 or so pages of this thread and can now say that I'm almost certain it is still VMM. If it is him, I know the dude will make up for lost time and please whoever ordered that hasn't received yet.
My only concern wasn't if I'll receive or not after resending it to his new key, but if he's been infiltrated by a reptilian narc...lol. But yeah, re-reading some of the previous pages and reading between the lines, my worries have eased. Now I feel like I'll be receiving something sometime this week, POSSibly next. But receiving nontheless..
TL.DR version:
Yo we gon be receiving our shit soon guys!
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I know one thing, I know encryption is a pain for some vendors to fuck with and they don't care for it, but from now on, my addy will be encrypted every single time.
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Got an update to an order from 28 days ago:
"recovering this week . will inform you..
apologies sir"
So, at least he is still keeping me in the loop I guess.
If he sorts this conundrum out I'd still order from his as long as he gets his act together moving forward.
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I got a message from Vortex yesterday, so he is still around... SR suspending him hasn't helped him out in any ways he reckons, dunno what happens there but I would say don't be too concerned with sending your address to him.. it's still him no doubt. Depends how paranoid you are with the likelihood of LE infiltrating someone. ;D
It's good to hear he responded to your message. I am still waiting on a confirmation that he sent my order.
Mind you, I still think VMM will bounce back. Just hope he got my message correctly, as it's an international order.
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I resent my info to with his new pgp about 9 or so days ago and i followed up with a message asking if he received my info correctly and he responded with
"YES< PLEASE REALIZE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO RECEIVE THIS WEEEK!
NO MORE DELAYS OR BULLSHIT DRAMA.
your order is en route!"
So as last week came to an end and still no package i sent him a message asking what was up and he responded back saying he couldnt open my info and asked if i sent it with his new pgp. I checked and I did send it correctly...........but i sent it to him again a few days ago. He read my message but no response back yet and no package as of today. Hummmmmmmmm. Im sooo exhausted with all of this. If it doesnt show up tomorrow im giving up. The hundred bucks im out is not worth dealing with this any longer. It sucks but i guess its a small amount considering the lesson i learned about FE. :'(
Anyone have this same issue?
I want to see V come through for all of our sakes. I would consider doing business in the future if i get my product and he gets caught up.
Blessings, M
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I think he's gonna come through. I think he's just behind the eight ball, haha, but he'll dig his way out. I'm looking forward to trying this shit, I've never tried it evah. Well, once like 15 years ago, but it sucked and I didn't really get anything from it.
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I feel bad for VMM. I've had stupid shit happen to me, and yes I suppose I should have had some sort of contingency plan, but you seriously can't plan for everything.
He has some of my BTC, and he's had it for a while. Not as much or as long as some of you, I expect, so I am fortunate in that.
I remain confident that VMM will bounce back. Perhaps I'm naive, perhaps I have "no backbone", but my belief isn't based just on some spring of eternal hope from within me, but rather based on empirical data that I have collated over the last few days. Feel free to google that, fuk_this, as you may not understand it. I may be a meth-addled tweaker with a chicken bone in one hand and a sharp in the other, but I know the difference between "bare" and "bear", and I can spell "tragedy".
For the vast majority of customers (by my estimate well over 600 transactions. This is based on what effect a 1/5 feedback had on his average before he was suspended), he performed satisfactorily.
For me personally, he has never been consistent in his delivery dates (sometimes 3 days after FE, sometimes 3 weeks). But he has always delivered the product.
The product isn't the best on SR. It is better than anything I have bought on the street. It doesn't give me the sweating heart-pounds that H's shit works on me, but it does give me a nice sense of purpose for the whole day.
Listen, if VMM keeps my btc and never delivers, then fine "you win". But he will, and then "you lose". You can never build your own house by tearing down someone else's.
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I may be a meth-addled tweaker with a chicken bone in one hand and a sharp in the other, but I know the difference between "bare" and "bear", and I can spell "tragedy".
I think I might have just found not only my new signature on these boards, but also my new personal motto. With your permission of course...
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>:(
I am so sick of idiots sticking up for this fucking thief.
I am glad he got suspended, there is no place for lying, thieving bastards like him in this market.
He ripped me off and to anyone else waiting i say -
IF YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU PAID FOR FROM VMM YOU ARE FUCKING DELUDING YOURSELF
To VMM - GOODBYE, AND DON"T COME BACK.
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Vortexmilkman : have you gone for good? or will you honor our deal, at least partially?
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Pure scammer. Here's a nice little reminder of his tactics:
1. Says the delay is due to losing his password, but yours is now in the post
2. Says the further delay is he has a lot of orders, but yours is now in the post
3. Says he can't send you your order without your TX number
4. Says your order is now in the post
5. Says he ran into some trouble, but all sorted now. Put your order in the post today.
6. Can't refund you, because order is in post.
7. Says he doesn't recognize you, needs your TX number - but you FE'd, and the record is long gone.
8. Tells you you won't be getting shit from him and to go fuck yourself
9. Threatens to give your address to the feds unless you change your feedback and stop squealing.
10. No refund, no product, inbox full of threats and laughing in your face.
11. Communication comes to a halt.
I'm glad some of you have had good experiences. Those defending him who are still waiting, well - good luck with the flattery; it's transparent, and we all know you are worried too; just maybe if you are nice he will think you are special? I wouldn't hold your breath.
For the sake of SR and how it should work, it is your duty to leave negative feedback if you have been wronged, and if you have been waiting longer than two months for his shit, time to act like a brother and stop sticking up for this guy. The sooner this false feedback and positivity is gone, the sooner this jackass is removed from SR and the sooner people aren't scammed out of money from a vendor that wrongly appears to be safe.
This thief has our money, and if he isn't going to give it back then we need to send him down.
Just my opinion.
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I just asked the moderator to rename this thread in honor of VMS and all that he has done for our community by being a Trusted Vendor of high quality Excuses. I hope you get that job in Law Enforcement you've always wanted, VMS!
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LET THIS BE A LESSON TO THIS MARKET
NO FUCKING EXCUSES
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*** YOU SEND WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN PAID FOR ***
Stories in forums and excuses don't mean shit.
Everyone in this thread who listened to any of this is a **fucking idiot**.
[1] I pay
[2] You deliver as promised.
There is no [3].
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Bouncing back, skipjack hang on buddy, you will receive.....everyone should start posting receives very soon,
When a vendor says security breaches occurred that threatened my freedom, your sensitive order and addy info, my supply, my associates' safety, etc.....it is wise to leave me be to work things out......aka not kicking me when im down.i understand most of you all are frustrated...but the storm is over...and i am just workin my ass off to get off this deserted island, and back on the ship.
I understand it is a)you pay for something and b) i deliver....but this is is the drugs trade, is it not....i have to be in the streets, f2f with a wonderful cast of colorful characters' who unfortunately can affect shit in my operation....when one link in a chain breaks or gets fucked..the whole link must regroup and put a band aid on the situation and move on....how can i physically deliver goods to hundreds of clients who's orders were part of a stolen/seized batch of crystal.....?
I had to rectify this....things take time....every batch i thought was the last in the last 10 days, i got dozens more emails and messages with clients providiing me with tx#s and a bunch of finalized order info that was from pervious backlogs etc.....shit snowballed like a motherfucker.
i dont know what else to sya....is it my fault? YES for having delays previously, and a backlog at the time when a real security breach just made things even worse.
But, for all the delayed orders...would you rather me had a machine filled with decrypted address info sitting with an rat bastard ex aassociate? or worse? i think not, i had no idea what was going on at the time, and certain precautions had to be taken...this is not an exucse, but an explanation.
I have been in business in my trade(s) for years and my only interest now is to restructure and make everyone happy again.
It would be my pleasure to have everything go back to the way things were, and it can, im almost there.
Anyone with anything else negative to say, I will not be responding to ...it will be just entertainment, so go ahead "fuck_this" (1 and 2) call me scammer, call me liar call me what you want you just keep my name ringin......keep my name in your mouth, its very flattering ...thanks haters.
to my loyal supporters, you will be rewarded for your patience during this turbulent time!
V!!!!
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RR msg me now, please i have so many reparations in the works still, do not add negative energy, please i cant take much more without snapping lol. ;)
just msg me right now if i havent got to you its nothing personal bro.....i will deliver, whther you buy from me ever agian or not, i will get you what you paid for....if you finalized i can resend, if you did not finalize i can refund in res. center.lemme know buddy
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i have messaged you on SR
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VMM messaged me a couple days ago confirming my package was in the mail, and then again yesterday confirming it was Priority and should be in my box Thursday. This was my fourth order from him and the only one where I ever had a problem - unfortunately I made the order right as shit was seemingly going down on his end. So there was a delay. Did it suck waiting and did I question wtf was going on? Yes of course. But the guy all my previous orders went great and he's never done me wrong, so I had no cause to think he wouldn't sort me out. And here he is doing just that.
Sucks to hear your account was suspended Vortex, but you'll dig out of the backlog no doubt. This is the drug trade. Things go wrong. You don't become one of the top sellers on SR for nothing. I think you can take VMM on his word of sorting out any orders he hasn't yet. I wouldn't be so quick to kick the man when he's down. And who wants to help out somebody who's constantly bitching at/about you?
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Bouncing back, skipjack hang on buddy, you will receive.....everyone should start posting receives very soon,
I take that to mean the people posting in the forums will be sorted out first. Please check your inbox for my message.
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I messaged you on SR with my info 7 days ago too, I'd appreciate if you got to it. My username is different but the title was 'lost order.'
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Vortexmilkman,
Could you please telll me if you received my info and was able to send my product out? You told me you had it ready to send but I never received a message back saying if you were able to see my shipping info I sent. Its been a few days since ive received any communication from you.
thank you and I hope you are well.
Blessings, M.
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Bouncing back, skipjack hang on buddy, you will receive.....everyone should start posting receives very soon,
When a vendor says security breaches occurred that threatened my freedom, your sensitive order and addy info, my supply, my associates' safety, etc.....it is wise to leave me be to work things out......aka not kicking me when im down.i understand most of you all are frustrated...but the storm is over...and i am just workin my ass off to get off this deserted island, and back on the ship.
I understand it is a)you pay for something and b) i deliver....but this is is the drugs trade, is it not....i have to be in the streets, f2f with a wonderful cast of colorful characters' who unfortunately can affect shit in my operation....when one link in a chain breaks or gets fucked..the whole link must regroup and put a band aid on the situation and move on....how can i physically deliver goods to hundreds of clients who's orders were part of a stolen/seized batch of crystal.....?
I had to rectify this....things take time....every batch i thought was the last in the last 10 days, i got dozens more emails and messages with clients providiing me with tx#s and a bunch of finalized order info that was from pervious backlogs etc.....shit snowballed like a motherfucker.
i dont know what else to sya....is it my fault? YES for having delays previously, and a backlog at the time when a real security breach just made things even worse.
But, for all the delayed orders...would you rather me had a machine filled with decrypted address info sitting with an rat bastard ex aassociate? or worse? i think not, i had no idea what was going on at the time, and certain precautions had to be taken...this is not an exucse, but an explanation.
I have been in business in my trade(s) for years and my only interest now is to restructure and make everyone happy again.
It would be my pleasure to have everything go back to the way things were, and it can, im almost there.
Anyone with anything else negative to say, I will not be responding to ...it will be just entertainment, so go ahead "fuck_this" (1 and 2) call me scammer, call me liar call me what you want you just keep my name ringin......keep my name in your mouth, its very flattering ...thanks haters.
to my loyal supporters, you will be rewarded for your patience during this turbulent time!
V!!!!
Yes, shit happens and patience is a virtue. I don't mind waiting as long as the vendor is true to his word.
I'm in Europe. This was my first order from you. To minimize risk, I choose to have only one overseas order in transit at any time. Haven't bought from one of my favorite vendors (moveitnice) for weeks now because I was led to believe that my order was on its way, was going to be soon, or was intercepted. This could easily have been avoided if you had been straight with me from the beginning.
As I said before, I don't want you to ship my order anymore. I'd like a refund please. Will you give it to me?
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But VMM,
What does seizures and characters have to do with me (or others) getting a refund or not?
Nobody is seizing your bitcoins. Or rather, MY bitcoins.
You ain't sent me my order, so hand me my payment back.
It's not rocket science.
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yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah . So fucking glad I steered clear of this fuckin train. If you want good meth and you are in the states try USdNMeth, got my order in 48hrs from being placed, no FE bullshit, honest legit vendor who is not yet overwhelmed by the SR clientele and all that goes along with that. Really I kinda feel bad for VMM, and I really don't know why he keeps it up, I mean if I were him I would just get a new sellers account or something. Seems his rep is pretty well fucked, but hey USdNMeth give him a try good dude, fast as shit delivery.
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VMM, I think the problem a lot of people have is that they received multiple messages from you saying that your order had been sent when it actually wasn't. If you were just honest from the beginning you wouldn't be getting as much crap. I can understand that shit happens and I feel for you in the situation you are dealing with, but to lie to your customers is where you fucked up. I'm glad you are manning up and are making sure that everyone gets their order (at least that's what you say you are doing). I guess we will just all have to wait and see.
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Bouncing back, skipjack hang on buddy, you will receive.....everyone should start posting receives very soon,
When a vendor says security breaches occurred that threatened my freedom, your sensitive order and addy info, my supply, my associates' safety, etc.....it is wise to leave me be to work things out......aka not kicking me when im down.i understand most of you all are frustrated...but the storm is over...and i am just workin my ass off to get off this deserted island, and back on the ship.
I understand it is a)you pay for something and b) i deliver....but this is is the drugs trade, is it not....i have to be in the streets, f2f with a wonderful cast of colorful characters' who unfortunately can affect shit in my operation....when one link in a chain breaks or gets fucked..the whole link must regroup and put a band aid on the situation and move on....how can i physically deliver goods to hundreds of clients who's orders were part of a stolen/seized batch of crystal.....?
I had to rectify this....things take time....every batch i thought was the last in the last 10 days, i got dozens more emails and messages with clients providiing me with tx#s and a bunch of finalized order info that was from pervious backlogs etc.....shit snowballed like a motherfucker.
i dont know what else to sya....is it my fault? YES for having delays previously, and a backlog at the time when a real security breach just made things even worse.
But, for all the delayed orders...would you rather me had a machine filled with decrypted address info sitting with an rat bastard ex aassociate? or worse? i think not, i had no idea what was going on at the time, and certain precautions had to be taken...this is not an exucse, but an explanation.
I have been in business in my trade(s) for years and my only interest now is to restructure and make everyone happy again.
It would be my pleasure to have everything go back to the way things were, and it can, im almost there.
Anyone with anything else negative to say, I will not be responding to ...it will be just entertainment, so go ahead "fuck_this" (1 and 2) call me scammer, call me liar call me what you want you just keep my name ringin......keep my name in your mouth, its very flattering ...thanks haters.
to my loyal supporters, you will be rewarded for your patience during this turbulent time!
V!!!!
Lol V - when will I receive? Sometime in 2015?
It's been two months...
Mate, you are full of shit.
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Why are there so many dumb asses asking VMM if he received there msgs?
Read the last 6 or 7 pages of this thread FFS
NO ONE HAS RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM THIS THIEF
For those of you who sent msgs on silk rd, check your sent msgs to see if they have been read.
VMM is obviously just popping in here for laughs and to troll.
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Why are there so many dumb asses asking VMM if he received there msgs?
Read the last 6 or 7 pages of this thread FFS
NO ONE HAS RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM THIS THIEF
For those of you who sent msgs on silk rd, check your sent msgs to see if they have been read.
VMM is obviously just popping in here for laughs and to troll.
LOL, could be man, but a lot of us are still keeping hope alive! haha
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dude, skipjack, and monroe, you will receive, wtf.....everyone else is taken care of....its all good.....how dare you "justanothernewbie" even try to assert i am scamming anyone.......
scamming means i disappear and no one gets shit, not a word from me, not a 1btc of refund much less the mad work ive been putting in to keep everyone satisfied after this fucking incident that makes me wonder if i broke a mirror recently.......shits fucked up and im doing my best and as fast as i can to get everyone processed out....to those who still see their messages as unread to me, its just that, i havnt got to it yet......i am still buried with dozens of more messages pouring in....sometimes 9messagges about the same delayed order from a person etc..so bear with me those who are left.....
V
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Personally I keep patiently watching and waiting. It is hard checking your mail drop day after day even after the last month knowing the same disappointment of no package fro VMM. But at the same time I keep hope and faith since VMM has not completely disappeared and taken the easy out. I am keeping the faith and positive vibes. It is a deep hole that widen faster and faster with the kind of pressures and negativity plus the volume of product and order VMM was handling. The backlog and gap widening every day frighteningly fast.
Keep up your spirits Vortex and I will be there to welcome you and celebrate your bright come back. This too will pass as all things in life do..some slow and painful and some fast and delightful it is all in the cycle
Hilly
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everyone else is taken care of
V
Not, quite
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dude, skipjack, and monroe, you will receive, wtf.....everyone else is taken care of....its all good.....how dare you "justanothernewbie" even try to assert i am scamming anyone.......
scamming means i disappear and no one gets shit, not a word from me, not a 1btc of refund much less the mad work ive been putting in to keep everyone satisfied after this fucking incident that makes me wonder if i broke a mirror recently.......shits fucked up and im doing my best and as fast as i can to get everyone processed out....to those who still see their messages as unread to me, its just that, i havnt got to it yet......i am still buried with dozens of more messages pouring in....sometimes 9messagges about the same delayed order from a person etc..so bear with me those who are left.....
V
Wow, so everyone is taken care of now except these 3 guys??
WTF man?
Then you say you have not got to everyone yet.
You make it difficult to believe in you when you keep saying this sort of shit.
VMM if it is still really is the original VMM, i sincerely wish you the best of luck sorting this shit out
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Has my order been shipped yet?
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dude, skipjack, and monroe, you will receive, wtf.....everyone else is taken care of....its all good.....how dare you "justanothernewbie" even try to assert i am scamming anyone.......
scamming means i disappear and no one gets shit, not a word from me, not a 1btc of refund much less the mad work ive been putting in to keep everyone satisfied after this fucking incident that makes me wonder if i broke a mirror recently.......shits fucked up and im doing my best and as fast as i can to get everyone processed out....to those who still see their messages as unread to me, its just that, i havnt got to it yet......i am still buried with dozens of more messages pouring in....sometimes 9messagges about the same delayed order from a person etc..so bear with me those who are left.....
V
Umm, VMM...can you add me to that list? Still nothing here.
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Vortexmilkman Will you PLEASE respond to my PM on the main site???
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Has my order been shipped yet?
dude, skipjack, and monroe, you will receive, wtf.....everyone else is taken care of....its all good.....how dare you "justanothernewbie" even try to assert i am scamming anyone.......
V
Bro he just said everyone else is taken care of, HA FUCKING HA VMM is one funny dude
No one but a selected few are receiving messages from VMM let alone any METH
And obviously the selected few have had enough of his bull shit
If he has sent replies, why are there no posts from customers saying so?
If he has sent orders, why are there no posts from customers saying "hey he came thru hang in there guys"
Why?? because he has not done it simple as that.
VMM, please come up with some new bullshit, other wise this thread is going to get boring lol
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VroomVroom
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Everyone else is taken care of? Nope, still don't have my refund. Hopefully he does not get a seller's account again until everyone is actually "taken care" of.
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VroomVroom
is he doing international shipping?
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VMM
i messaged you like you asked me to and that was 36hrs ago and you aint even read it :(
come on mate i have supported you fully please just message me back its not a lot to ask bro is it?
i really dont want to start posting again but if you dont read my messages and write back posting is the only way i can communicate with you so please
RR
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I cant seem to get a reply either. :'( ...or a package. I swear to GOD I will post that I received something if/when i do.. I would think if anyone did receive something they would do the same thing but who knows. I wish his profile was up just so we could see the recent feedback from people.
If I ever get a package, Its going to be like Christmas and I will praise VMM-even after all of this. Vmm, we just want what we paid for.........I ordered mine for my finals week over a month ago and my finals are next week.....at least tell me its not coming so I can figure out some cash to order from someone else. I still have hope that I will get it before then but if there isnt a chance in hell then tell me. At least do that for me and I will leave you alone.
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VroomVroom
Yeah......I tried that.
Didn't read my pms for a week. Finally got back to me offering FedEx.
I thought I would be a fair dude and say "No need to spend extra cash, just get it to me normally as long a that's fast."
No movement on order since and no response to pm....again.
This is after doing this once before and cancelling when I saw his troubles explained. I apologized and promised to try again. Well, I tried again and am getting the same lack of service.
I guess I should have taken that Fed Ex LOL!
I am about to cancel again.
DubG while also not responding to pm, has at least finally (after 2 days) marked it to "in transit".
Why is it so hard to get meth in a timely fashion around here.
VMM, it's no dis to you buddy but I wish you would clear shit up and become a 3 day service. We could use that around here.
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i would feel a 100 times better about all this if he kept in constant contact with me, and read my messages kept me up to date and only tell me its been sent after he has put in in the mail box. i think he needs someone to help him by taking over his messages and replying to them all and then he would only have to talk to one person, shit i would love that many messages to reply to cos i just sit here all day flicking between websites and SR, TV and reading News Paper
vortox join the chat bro we can talk better :)
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php/SILC_Chatroom
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Vmm,
Pleease just give me a refund. PLease please please please PLEASE :-[
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Goddamit anyone waiting on shit from VMM you need to just accept it go into the bathroom look at yourself in the mirror and repeat after me. I AM BEAT. order off of USDnMeth I did and got it in 48hrs no early finalization. And shit was good. Fuck this waiting and begging, and waiting shit man give up and move on. Sorry to hear that you got beat guys, but that is what has happened. Not happening . It is past tense it has already taken place.. SRY
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THERE IS STILL HOPE
or why would he come on here and explain? yeah he fucked up bigtime and he knows he did and he is trying to catch up but i would like a mail back when i mail him,
and i did ask USDnMeth but he wont ship to uk yet but he says in the future but tried the vendor in germany and hes is good just not as pretty as VMM's
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He's not a thief. He just lets his shit get away from him from time to time.
If he was a thief his name would have been gone a long time ago and a new name with the same product would have popped up....rinse and repeat.
He has never let me down and if his listings were open I would order one. I would expect to wait but I would order it.
Now, that said.....is there anyone who will get me some shit in a couple-3 days?
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He's not a thief. He just lets his shit get away from him from time to time.
If he was a thief his name would have been gone a long time ago and a new name with the same product would have popped up....rinse and repeat.
He has never let me down and if his listings were open I would order one. I would expect to wait but I would order it.
Now, that said.....is there anyone who will get me some shit in a couple-3 days?
Has he ever been this bad before?
Why would you be so stupid to order from him if his listings were still up?
If he was to sort his shit out and make good to everyone, even i would buy from him again.
But lets be real, he has done nothing but tell lie after lie.
Read his last 5 or so posts FFS
Read ksquizzle post again.
Stop trying to suck vmm ball sack in the hope that he will send you something. so fucking sick.
Why do only meth tweakers stoop so low for a fix?
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Justanothernewbie.....please leave the thread.....this is a place for mature, intelligent discussion not chat room banter and rants and raves.
Now youre going to nit pick every sentence and try to misconstrue me?
I never revealed the exact number of backlogged orders just now....all i did was state that everyone is taken care of..meaning you all will receive....some have received yesterday, today...most intl orders will be next week received.esp the aussie ones.....Everyone is taken care of....means shits being handled.......
to the remaining dumb asses like justanothernewbie, etc......please give it up....its quite entertaining to see you still trying to sling mud at me...
and whoever suggested I quit and start a new seller account, I will not....cuz thats something a lowlife coward ass scammer does....I am here taking all the flames, that understandably most are pissed about....and im here making things right.....
Some of you act like I have to come up with some great story or lie, I dont have to do shit......except prove that i am a man of my word.
though it may seem like it...there aint no excuses.......all i did was state wtf happenned to me and why there was an insane delay....and if you guys cannot respect im getting back on my feet to get things running again, then i have nothing much else to say.
most pending Intl expect next week, and all other domestics that are unread messages, expect a reply and either a refund or send...
"No one left behind"
V
p.s.
expecting someone to come and try to continue to bring me down or say some negative shit.....go ahead, who ever is next to post some bs about me is a true cu*t
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I just posted this minutes ago on Heisenberg's thread but it applies here too. Come on people I too have not received anything but lets get real here. Enough hurt pussy behavior. Sorry ladies if you are offended ...dudes really your pussy hurts. Lets try to be civil and let the man do his thing.
WTF people have gone mad. Really, the attacks and everything. It is frustrating when you have an issue on here that I completely understand. But you need to check yourself if the need for getting even is so strong over this? Out here if you are playing with more money then you can afford to loose or even do without for a bit, I say you better check your motivations and risk factors. This is still riverboat old wild west gambling only sneaker. Maybe no gun in your face but still risky. Heisenberg has been a good vendor and I have had not one issue with him. There was a moment where some shit happened but that is life. Shit does happen. Get real cant we have some civility working this shit out? Don't go out of escrow or FE ..if you do try not to whine like a little bitch when it bites you in the ass.
Just saying
Hilly
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Thing is, those people who flood inboxes do the same thing to every vendor they do business with I bet. When you have 20 people sending 3 messages a day, it's gotta be fuckin unreal to deal with. Most of you are acting like drug fiends who are scratching the skin off their necks as they type these posts. Wtf, seriously?
Also, if VMM can't get access to his SR account what good does sending PMs there do? I dunno, maybe he gets em, maybe not. At any rate I don't know what a message is suppose to do anyway. It won't speed shit up, if anything it slows shit down because each of you butthurt fuckers want a personal reply.
Pfft, you guys are fucking shameful.
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He's not a thief. He just lets his shit get away from him from time to time.
If he was a thief his name would have been gone a long time ago and a new name with the same product would have popped up....rinse and repeat.
He has never let me down and if his listings were open I would order one. I would expect to wait but I would order it.
Now, that said.....is there anyone who will get me some shit in a couple-3 days?
Has he ever been this bad before?
Why would you be so stupid to order from him if his listings were still up?
If he was to sort his shit out and make good to everyone, even i would buy from him again.
But lets be real, he has done nothing but tell lie after lie.
Read his last 5 or so posts FFS
Read ksquizzle post again.
Stop trying to suck vmm ball sack in the hope that he will send you something. so fucking sick.
Why do only meth tweakers stoop so low for a fix?
Like I said, he has never let me down. He reshipped an order that very well could have been me liieing to him about not receiving it. he sent me extra weight the next time to make up for my delay. Has he said it was in the mail when it most likely wasn't? I'd say yes to that . But as long as I know he'll make it good eventually I can work with that.
Like I also said, he could have bailed and respawned a hundred times here, cleaning up each time. He chooses to come back and defend his name, even when he knows he has fucked it up somewhat. That's not how SR scammers work.
I haven't read his posts. I'll do that but first I will predict they were viscous responses to people choosing to be as rude as possible in their inquiries....you know, like you chose to be in your reply to me.....you fuckwad. See how much nicer this post was going until I chose to cross the line of civil discourse?
VMM flakes from time to time....that's common knowledge and was going on before I placed my first order. Some f104 guy as I recall.
Vmm gets pissed and flames when people flame him....deserved or not. Once again, common knowledge. I know more people LIKE that than not like that myself. They usually calm down and apologize. Lets see if VMM does the same to anyone who stops flaming him. And if he does lets see if YOU apologize to him.
There have been many who have been civil and I'll bet they get their shit eventually. They surely will before the non-civil ones do but I'd bet even they get theirs eventually.
I could be wrong. Maybe he will give up on his name. He sure is getting plenty of encouragement to do just that. Time will tell.
I wouldn't doubt some holy rolling group(s) is on here fucking with dealers any way they can and using their own shortcomings to manipulate them into imploding.......as one of many tactics.
Just a thought.
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Just wanna say that I've always been patient, polite, and courteous to VMM. I had an order that arrived the day the resolve option became available, right before his security issues. I may very well be one of the last of his customers to have received my order. I PM'd him once when I got a msg from SR support reminding me to finalize if I'd received my order. He never replied, but sure enough it showed up right before it became a real issue. I understand people who FE'd being pissed, I understand everyone's frustration, but VMM is the oldest meth seller on the road. The fact that he's still here, stating explicitly that he won't fucking quit, says a lot about him.
He was my second ever meth purchase on the Road and to date, he's also the most recent (that I've received ;)) I hate to speculate about anything, especially here, so I won't. I will say that if VMM never vends again on Silk Road, I'll say to myself as I read the proof on my screen, "Well, I'll be damned..."
I do agree that the same few posters in this thread saying the same few things over again is getting tiresome. It's not like your doing anyone a service, his account is suspended. You can't even claim the noble position of "warning off the newbs" anymore. If he goes to the darkside, the damage is already limited to those still here waiting. I get that you're pissed, I get that you need to vent, but I no longer see this thread as the place to do so. VMM is either gonna take care of you at this point or not. All that's left to do is to wait...
Sorry, I kinda got to ranting there. I guess the TL,DR here is that this thread is pointless now. Maybe in a month or two, a VMM 2.0 thread appears, or everyone with problems comes back here if they are resolved and this thread lives on. Or it just falls to the bottom as VMM fades away and everyone accepts it as another in a line of good vendors gone over the course of our great experiment on SR. I for one don't know which outcome will become reality, but I do know which I prefer...
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I've only dealt with Vortex once, but from my brief but pleasant interaction with him I really don't think he's of bad character. He'd be off in the sunset by now if that was his game. Yeah, I know the evidence is stacked against this conclusion at the moment, but I'm willing to bet a bitcoin that he's got this mess sorted out within two weeks, i.e. nearly all delinquent orders are either refunded or received. So someone who feels they've been scammed, here's your opportunity to recover at least something if you're right. First person who responds can take the bet. It's far from a sure bet on my side, but Vortex went out of his way to do me right in the past and this is my show of appreciation for that. I'm not saying his biz practices are a shining star above or anything, but as far as meth vendors go, he ain't a bad guy and I'm willing to put a coin behind that, fully aware that I could also be dead wrong.
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man, really hope vmm gets his shit together, which he seems to be doing to be fair!! i tried to order twice frm him first got canx as he wass having backlog trouble and wanted me to FE but i was away so never got the chance before he canx the order, askin me to re order fresh, when i was ready. he went stealth, he came bk, so i ordered a cheeky 0.25g to give it a try....then after a couple of days in process he got suspended. i canx after 5 days as he was still not reinstated. i wasnt goin to pm him as obviously shit goin down. but he never had to canx my first attempt, i would of FE'd....for this reason, i'd be happy to buy again if and when he sorts it all out! big up vmm.......hope you get ur pkgs!!
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Would love to be able to report great news about VMM refunding and getting a fresh start. I am holding out some small hope, as he is still here posting...
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VMM, you should answer flashblock in 23 hours 58 minutes with simply "yes".
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HELLO MY FELLOW F(R)IENDZZZ
I have some absolutely amazing news to tell you all. I rec'd my 7g from the V Man down under within 10 business days, the quickest turn around time I have ever received from this young chap.
SHARDS too like I requested.
THERE is HOPE.. the sooner SR lets VORTEX back on here the better the outcome it will be for everyone worldwide, mother fuckers.
8)
That is indeed awesome news mate! I've also received my first order from VMM in around the same time down under, although still waiting for the second.. have not gone off on a hissy fit like the rest of the people here! And if don't get it, then that's just collateral cost of using international shipping and living in such a customs prison! Also the second order was tiny, although VMM told me he topped it up a bit extra which I also believe because from what I've seen he's much more of a stand up guy than a lot of other sellers here who are shitting on their competitors..
ABC, just wondering what the packaging was like and if you can compare the stealthiness of it to other meth vendors shipping to our brown land...
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VMM comes through again!
Anyone question his integrity needs to think again. Always keeps his word. Just a stand up guy, caught up in some unfortunate shit.
Thanks Bro!
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just got the mail.......still nothin :-\
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Vmm wont reply to my messages either..and I dont send everyday. I dont think anything is coming..why would I feel any different? :'(
I wish I could just get a refund and buy from someone else....then maybe I can actually get my package. He said he had my package right in front of him....how hard is it to stick it in the mail Vmm?
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If everyone did that it wouldn't be special anymore ;D
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Jesus,I've been waiting for a package from VMM since about 3 months back lol-It didn't arrive to my address a 2nd time so gave him a different one and it STILL hasn't turned up,gave up on it a long time ago.
And like an idiot i even finalized as a show of good faith after he said he'd reshipped,what a git.
Why dont someone from Europe set up for fucks sakes? Someone with good standing who we can trust,there must be loads of people who are sick of ordering from the US and waiting 2 weeks to receive,IF they do,come on Europe UK pull your fingers out your bitcoins.
Wish i could cook the shit.
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Checking into the Flashblock and highonthehill situation as we speak, hang on friends
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You sent me a message 22 days ago after I inquired about not receiving my package.
Your reply:
Yes, it was severely backlogged and i apologize.
expect it next week
V
So was it sent? This was from 3 weeks ago. PM me and I'll give you my Order deets.
Cheers.
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I'm still waiting too. Ordered March 6, supposedly shipped March 8. VMM if you need more time to sort shit out just say so. I'm not sitting here fiending for my little .5g, its just a pain in the ass the check my drop box, it's intentionally located far from where I live.
I gave you my bitcoins, I vouched for you, and I changed my feeback to 5 stars and wrote a nice little review. Could you please just let me know when you ship it out in return? I don't care if it was yesterday or next week, just gimme a heads up on when its in the postal system.
Thanks.
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VMM has the memory of an elephant! He forget nothing, noooooooothing!!!!! Ok maybe some things :P
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thanks Vmm. I really look forward to hearing from you. ;D
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Checking into the Flashblock and highonthehill situation as we speak, hang on friends
Can I get an update with my package? ETA wouldn't hurt too. I'm wondering how the aussies get their stuff first, although you've told me you've never shipped to my location before, it's alot safer to get stuff to where I'm at then through aus customs, so long as packaging is all gravy baby, should be all good.
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Good Vibes VMM. Thanks for the word. The man is working on it so keep the faith everyone. It takes time to get to all of us hitting the V man for word. Things are coming into focus I believe.
Cant wait to see you back up and running
Hilly
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Still keeping the faith here, VMM got to reading my msg with resend of address for a order during the sale. My first purchase on SR was with Vortex and it was a great first impression, no hassle, convenient transaction. His product has always been on weight and stellar quality with several orders after and this is the first snag. if you FE'd up and now are pissing your pants about what I trust in this case is unforseen circumstances you had to know this is a gamble? I respect what VMM and other cyrstal vendors offer here and can only imagine the unexpected shit they deal with irl. If VMM was intent on scamming I can't see him taking the time to try and defend himself and reaffirm his efforts to make things right. Finding SR was like a dream come true with the variety and quality of products we need to preserve that with some mutual respect and empathy to what a vendor might deal with in getting that magic practically to your doorstep.
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As a reasonable, mature adult I should avoid the temptation of in-fighting and take the high moral road.
But I won't!
I got an envelope today from VMM-- I WIN!
Even better is that the package was .28 overweight. Super-handy, especially when I consider how broke I am right now.
VMM stayed in *reasonable* communication with me. I tried not to bother him, and he would read and then respond to my PMs within a couple of days. Maybe my timing was good, maybe I'm just lucky, but I cannot complain too much.
So, at the end of the day I FE'd like I'd done several times before. Then (apparently) his life went to shit. It took 28 days from FE to arrive, but arrive it did, and 0.28 overweight is a super-nice bonus!
I smoked about .05 of it. I'm ripped right now (prolly as much from the nonconsentual detox period's affect on my tolerance). Vaped quite nicely, got huge white billowy clouds from the pipe. Not PriscillaMarie90 - sized clouds, but then who besides her gets those......
Did not burn, and I am so bad at smoking I almost always burn my gear. Left a little tiny residue spot. If I can figure out how to post a pic I'd gladly do it.
I also just happened to get paid today -- first time in a long time. I'll start the process of turning money into BTC in my SR account, and do it all over again.
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Vortexmilkman, thanks for making contact with me, and thanks for sending my package! I realise its a small order, but I was getting severe anxiety! :)
Glad to hear from you.
Stay safe.
Flashblock.
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The news and vibe is getting better fellas ;)
And something I gotta agree wit most people here saying is if VMM truly, 100% wanted to scam, shit he probably wouldnt be defending his integrity and motives to this point. I mean he would just scam and not come back and defend himself, simple as that, so this is why I've felt he will come through......even a month and few weeks after my order ::) But regardless, as paranoid as I get with everything regarding this site, I feel when I'm sober and come back and check this thread [seriously I prefer lurking, and when I log on and post, the only thread I check constantly is this one].
Basically, I feel he is a dude with good intentions. Shit happens, and I know what that shit can be like dealing with this particular drug's 'scene.' This drug and H has gotta be one of the most hardcore substances one can consume.
Maybe sometimes VMM, whoever his source is, gives him the run-around, much like I experience in real life. If I were to put myself in his shoes, I feel I would do the same. I think I have the same tendencies as V. Meaning, I would tend to say the same thing, I don't like to disappoint people. It's not that I would want to lie to my clients, it's just the shit thats going on in real life, the drama I'd be experiencing, it's easier to say it's on its way because thats what I truly intend - is to ship once everything is given the all-clear. It's easier to say "yes package on it's way" rather then explain everything going on, making people worry further. Shit does anyone know what Im tryna say? lol. Like I truly intend to send, I just wouldnt wanna disappoint or worry everyone. BUT with the intention of very well sending the shipments, it's just theres some shit going on.
Anyway I'm not putting words in his mouth or speaking for you V, just understanding and empathizing with you bud. I know your true intentions are good bro.
And hearing more people say they're receiving man, this is good to hea(r)ead.
Once everyone receives I say we come back on here while twacked, and post novels about how happy we finally are and throw a flood-this-thread-while-twacked-thefuck-out conversational PARTY BABY. Or not.
And believe it or not I am sober right now. :'(
Aight gentlemen, heres a toast to victory! Because....
TL;DR Version:
......Yo we gon be receiving our shit soon guys! :)
Haha... take care you guys.
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Checking into the Flashblock and highonthehill situation as we speak, hang on friends
Any news about my orders Vmm? :)
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FE 24 days ago
Nothing
PM'd him but I don't expect anything
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Amazing.... the d-bags getting their orders 30 day later are happy. They must be chicks because no man would let a skinny ass tweaker walk all over them. Yet the eunuch's find this acceptable.
Grow a sack, and man up. This pussy has a few of your dollars, and thus, you grant him every possible excuse he shits out. If I was a seller, I'd kick your orders for being such pussies.
The fucking administrators have booted his moronic ass, yet you still think he's legit... Yes, come back and brag about your lack of manhood. The few left are stupid and pussies. Good luck... I'll check back in 45 days... I'm certain you'll call me the fool, based on your..... neva mind
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Have you mastered the basics yet? "Hello, welcome to McDonalds, may I take your order?" Let me forewarn you because I suspect this may cause another "break down." From what I learned from watching Glengary Glen Ross, you close with the "add on sale" - so go with "would you like fries with that order?" You'll be assistant manager quicker than you could ship me dope. FYI - I know you're stupid, so I should explicate this obvious metaphor... Follow my guidance, and you'll make 8$/hr in at least in 30 days.
What I'd like to read - a meth vendor (excluding vroom) create similar yet believable excuses with an IQ over 90. The trick to fucking people is make them happy until its too late.... you've thinned the herd only slightly.... I got my shit/money 12 hours after my first post. Man up, ladies.
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Amazing.... the d-bags getting their orders 30 day later are happy. They must be chicks because no man would let a skinny ass tweaker walk all over them. Yet the eunuch's find this acceptable.
Grow a sack, and man up. This pussy has a few of your dollars, and thus, you grant him every possible excuse he shits out. If I was a seller, I'd kick your orders for being such pussies.
The fucking administrators have booted his moronic ass, yet you still think he's legit... Yes, come back and brag about your lack of manhood. The few left are stupid and pussies. Good luck... I'll check back in 45 days... I'm certain you'll call me the fool, based on your..... neva mind
Yeah I agree. You guys should just send that back and tell him to fuck off, you don't want it no more.
Cause lord knows we're all fucking perfect here. Everyone but VMM and Heisenberg that is. All dishonesty, tardiness and general excuse making will finally be purged from the the Earth when they are gone, thank Dog!!!
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Still waiting for contact about my refund.
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I'm still waiting too - 23 days since my order and counting. There was a bit of a delay because VMM changed his PGP key and I sent my address with the old one, but let's say 20 days and counting.
Update: I did finally get my order a couple days ago. The stuff is good, I'm still not happy about how long it took but at least I got it and am enjoying it.
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Got my order today....FE cause I was going out of town for the weekend and came back to see his account was suspended so I was a little worried and alot bummed but vmm has come through everytime for me...saved my butt today cause I had just run out. He has always deliverd in a timely fashion...cant beat his fuckin prices and the dope is pretty dope too. I've tried vrooms once and he was very pleasant to work with and Im still waiting on Dubg and H's stuff to arrive. Vmm has been the fastest and cheapest and its good...hope to see his account back up and running cause so far hes come through everytime for me. Thanks vmm....you rock!
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SR name: trevb
Status: Still waiting
3/12: Ordered .5g
3/17: Finalized
4 /10: Requested refund
4/16: Re-sent addy
Was really hoping to receive today.. At least I'm now a little hopeful in general with people having received yesterday. Maybe next week. VMM, can we get an update please?
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Hey vmm,
Just posting in the thread again as I did not get a reply on SR. Was my 0.5g order sent out?
You mentioned aussie orders earlier, so I was curious whether my order made it in.
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Good idea ABC, seeing some sporadic receipts posted is hopeful and that VMM will stop in for a update...
1/2gs @ ONLY 10 BTC!!! LIMITED TIME SALE!!!!! vortexmilkman 5 of 5 FE for trusted seller 1 month ago edit
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wow he lost some shit including peoples orders, then why the fuck did he say he had shipped my order???
i had to make contact with him 16 days later to see what was up
it s been excuse after excuse for everybody
man up you spineless cunts sticking up for him
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Fuk_this, fuck off. We're all sorry VMM's sale hurt your business so much but the sale appears to have ended so get over it. It's obvious anyone as antagonistic as you has ulterior motives. Anyone else notice how fast the .50g @ 10BTC moved to the top of the charts when sorted by 'most popular'. Sorry Fuk_this, your shit cost too much bro and as you've proved all throughout this thread, you are a douche bag and a half. And as I've alluded to before, it's quite obvious that anyone with a low post count dogging on VMM immediately following your posts is just one of your puppet accounts. Thanks though, I do get a chuckle out of it.
To all those bitching about why VMM confirmed it as shipped when it wasn't - stop and think for a second. Clearly, vmm wasn't/isn't a 1 man operation and as we all know shit got fucked up with at least one of his employees. Let's say vmm handles the sr side of things and slangs in real life, and one of his associates makes post office runs. Let's say this associate becomes all to familiar with the product and decides to keep it for himself, either to use or to sell, all the while telling VMM "yep, order number 8923489 shipped". That's what most likely happened and it could have gone on for quite a while before it was noticed.
Now the guy is trying to do right by us and all most of you can do is bitch bitch bitch. <If> it is all a big scam, how much are you out really? Does it make a difference? You gambled money on drugs on the internet, or, to put it more bluntly, it doesn't fucking matter at all. It's your own god damn fault. Did you read the forums? Did you think VMM was going to teleport some tweak straight to your pad?
Go shake and bake your own shit if it means that much to you. And before you try to say I'll be singing a different tune if/when I'm ripped off I'd just like you to know I don't give a good god damn about the money I've spent. VMM didn't pull a gun on me, take my wallet with cash, my phone, and kick me out of his car on the side of the road, so I'm doing pretty fucking well.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: VMM, if you're going to all the trouble to make everyone happy, then take your fucking time. Especially for the haters, they don't deserve your time anyway.
I can't believe nobody else has signed up for SilkRoad Prime. 3 day delivery plus SR streaming videos and 2 day delivery for $3.99/item. :P
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198bzqr957 shut the fuck up man!!
who the fuck do you think you are boy??
making excuses for VMM, so sad bro.
to VMM, weather you come back or not bro i do not really care.
Respect to you VMM for what you have achieved in the past on SR, a massive achievement to do what you have done bro
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<If> it is all a big scam, how much are you out really? Does it make a difference? You gambled money on drugs on the internet, or, to put it more bluntly, it doesn't fucking matter at all. It's your own god damn fault.
You're a fucking idiot. We don't all have money to waste.
Clearly you don't belong here if you think if it doesn't matter if a seller delivers.
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Did I mention that I received my order? 'cause I did!
yes, it was super-late. inexcusibly late. There were issues, excuses, severe actions taken, etc etc.-- in the end it didn't matter. I got what I paid for (and a little bit more, actually a lot more, all things considered). Am I defending VMM's behavior? Nope. Am I defending his character, yes, based on previous dealings.
The sad thing is that anyone has to defend VMM's character.
Seriously, I don't read these threads to gather anonymous opinions about a dealer's character. I read these to see what experiences others have had.
The pertinent questions (and the data from my most recent transaction, for the record):
How long did it take to arrive
.....Me: 28 days
If it hasn't arrived, how long since order/FE, and what was the communication [if any]
Quality of packaging, especially for stealthyness -- I think I just made that word up
....Me: Not something you open in front of your mom, but served its purpose
Quality of product
....Me: Pretty fucking good. very little residue, no burn on IV. Did not rush as hard as with other buys, but I'm not unhappy. Plus the delivery was WAY overweight!
Provide that, and let the grownups make a decision about how to proceed with this vendor.
As I keep posting: you cannot build your own house by tearing down someone else's.
[edit: i didn't add all of my review items like I said I would]
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justantohernewbile - Looks like someone else has received.
Let me simplify for you and that other fellow that don't quite seem to understand.
1)Pay for drugs online
2)Drugs may or may not be shipped depending on how reputable the vendor is
3)Despite being possibly shippped, as per (2), it could take a long time
4)If it seems like you can't wait any longer, as your a fiend, and the vendor lost vending privileges, then what the fuck does it matter? Do you not have casinos where you live? Similar principle.
Yes the principle of the matter is you paid for goods and didn't receive. The reality is this isn't amazon or ebay and we're dealing with shady characters peddling contraband.
5)Get the fuck over it. If you were ripped off in real life would you bitch and moan about it for days on end? If so, that might explain why you're the type of guy who gets ripped off.
@VMM, thanks for the PM, and fuck the haters. I'll order again as soon as you're reinstated just to spite these bitches, plus I enjoy the product.
Edit: Bring on the hate
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No hate here.
Go VMM. Show them who you are.....er.. well don't do that.....what your made of.
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I respect you VMM. You are one of the best!!
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Just.. +10 bitchy post over .5g and talking down to people with name calling no wonder your being ignored. Like others keep repeating these forums are best served with pertinent data not childish attacks. Calling people pussies for preferring to take the High road makes you look like a fool and you obviously don't realize it. Like others have elaborated no were not happy with VMMs recent performance but respect his willingness to make things right. Stick to the facts and leave your self projecting inferiority complex at your junior high school. Just because someones opinion or etiquette differs from yours doesn't make them worthy of your shit spewing.
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Well, vortex finally read my PM's...even the one where I asked for a refund if he can't send the product.
He hasn't responded and hasn't sent me anything.
Also, to the above posters, I haven't name called or acted childish in 1 bit...
Pretty sure it's been over 5 weeks now. He just read the messages a few days ago...was hoping he'd send out but no, nadda.
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Hey all, I was pretty wasted when I wrote all that last night. I don't know if I was the one who was being called childish, but whatever.
I stand by what I say.
What's up?
What's happening?
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Vmm, I just resent my info again. I look forward to hearing from you.
Blessings, M :)
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It's been 29 days since I've finalized early. 4 days since my last contact with VMM where he asked for me to resend my order and contact info. I did and the message remains unread. I see small trickles of people receiving their long overdue orders in this thread and really wish I was one of them. I didn't even order that much, but it's the principle of the matter that bothers me. At least I learned my lesson not to FE under any circumstances.
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At least I learned my lesson not to FE under any circumstances.
Sorry to hear your bad news. I say this for others' benefit: Finalize Early only if you're willing to gamble that amount of btc. Escrow is there for a reason people.
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I ordered on 4/12. It "shipped" on 4/19. Hasn't arrived yet. My message to VMM 4 days ago is unread. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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My messages on SR have been read! I guess that means the wheels are rolling (hopefully?)
*waiting patiently* 8)
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My messages have now been read, though no response. At least he's online. Not freaking out yet. Fingers crossed.
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I think things are moving. I had an unread message for like 5 days + order in resolution ( added 10 days ).
Now I have a message saying the stuff will be mailed today. Finger crossed.
I'm not so nervous, i've been there 1 month ago but this time it's in escrow.
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Vmm, Did you receive my info and will you overnite it to my address today? Please man, you have my info and I need it tomorrow. I ordered forever ago to make sure I had it for my finals week at school....that is this week!!!!!! Please vmm, could you overnight my orders today? will you please reply????????????????
please
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UPDATE: Allegedly my order has shipped. We shall see...
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Man I'm still waiting for my stuff I ordered from VMM over a month ago.
Man I really want it to come. =[
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I think it's time for you all to be getting excited. It took 48 days (can anyone top that?) but I finally got it, which is pretty fucking sweet. Better late than never and now I can gloat about people like Fuk_this who were so certain it was all a big scam and couldn't stop bitching and moaning.
I don't know what the rules for posting pics are, don't know if it's allowed at all, if external links are allowed, or if vbb code works, but here ya go. I can't be bothered to reshoot with a time stamp then edit out the exif/metadata again and resize the pic so this will have to do. I'm sure if this is in violation of the rules a mod will edit/delete/ban me...well I guess using tor it's hard to enforce bans on IPs, just accounts. I'm rambling, guess I got what I paid for.
<a href="http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=53623c243bf1e2398b81db12648af8e4.jpg">Talk shit now</a>
Seems a bit better than last time too, though it may be that it has been a while for me.
Don't loose heart comrades.
Edit: Thanks again VMM. You're a man of your word. Hope you can get things back running smoothly again.
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<a href="http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=53623c243bf1e2398b81db12648af8e4.jpg">Talk shit now</a>
sweet scale...
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I don't even remembered when I ordered, like three weeks ago right when all the shit went down. I ordered before the shit storm was known to me. I have never tried meth but was willing to try because his shit got good reviews and he offered a small (250mg) sack. I watched as all you guys argued and berated VMM and at times I thought, he's gonna pull it togther and prove them all wrong, then others I was like I dunno, he pretty far behind on shit.
A few days ago I got a message from VMM asking for my details again since they were lost, He also wanted my trans#. I didn't reply because to me the money I lost wasn't important enough to resend address when I'm feeling anything less than kosher. I haven't messaged him once asking where my shit was, only to tell him things that I feel he needed to know about the address I gave.
Today comes I check my mail and see a priority package. Thinking it's PJ's tar I rush home eager as fuck. Instead, what do I see but nearly a gram (if the baggie weighs what I think dude gave me .75) of straight up shards o glass. I tossed a matchhead or so sized chunk in a spoon and put her right where it counts.
All I got to say is wow. I don't have past experience to go by, so I can only say that the sensation is quite unique. I can see lots of shit getting done in the next couple days lol.
In the end, my gut was right about VMM. He made it right, like me and a few others knew he would. But if you're gonna say the man stole from you, why should he not? He's already being called a thief by you, why should he try to change that? You guys do a lot of the vendors here that way. You need to grow the fuck up, treat people with more respect and enjoy your better karma.
Thanks VMM, you da man!
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http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=7b5755fb12ca96725f6c965dda09fd1a.jpg
For you pr0n freaks
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Hatedpatriot, so you received your order even after you didn't resend your address with the new key?
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Well, I had sent my address and order AFTER the key was replaced, doesn't matter because I didn't encrypt it. This was my first or second order, I wasn't encrypting everything the way I do now. I think he had it, he just wanted to verify. Because I had told him that after the 30th I would no longer have access to that particular box.
Even though shit fucked up on him, I get the vibe from him that he's pretty organized and it fits my perception of him to request info to double check that the right shit is going to the right place.
I'll buy from him again simply because of the way he handled you guys. I don't know if meth is my thing, not a speed freak, but I will order more to send to a friend that has also never tried and can't get any where he is. I'll polly buy other stuff from him as well. I think he's a stand up dude. Not many would have tried to fix this. Most would just walk off and start anew saying "thats how it goes when you play the game"
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I think VMM is bulk replying us sometimes.
One day I received the "please send address again". I didn't reply.
Next day I got, "It's ok stuff is shipping today"
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He hasn't messaged me really since I finalized my order 34 days ago, not even to ask for my address again. Hopefully that changes soon.
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Holy shit you guys, you got no idea how stoked I finally am that you all finally got your shit.
Yeah fuck the haters, because those who kept some hope alive man, were right. At times I did doubt, but not like the haters, and it's not my style to threaten or fuckin jump to conclusions and shit, know what I mean? I empathized with VMM, and needless to say the wait is finally over.
So a couple of you received today...in about an hour and a half the mail should be here. So I'm eagerly waiting. If it doesn't arrive today, I dont give a shit because it'll come soon, thats all that matters and finally, the proof is in the crystally, milky pudding in those pics you guys posted. Thanks for sharing that!
So stoked you guys! Take care you all. Have fun, and party safe.
EDIT: minor type-o
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Today comes I check my mail and see a priority package. Thinking it's PJ's tar I rush home eager as fuck. Instead, what do I see but nearly a gram (if the baggie weighs what I think dude gave me .75) of straight up shards o glass. I tossed a matchhead or so sized chunk in a spoon and put her right where it counts.
All I got to say is wow. I don't have past experience to go by, so I can only say that the sensation is quite unique. I can see lots of shit getting done in the next couple days lol.
I loved reading this. Burroughs couldn't have put it any better- I felt every word of it.
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You gotta think something. You can't just empty your brain and keep it that way until you need it, it's gonna stay full of what ever is going on. So much of what's going on is not even created until you feel a certain way about it, though. I would encourage everybody waiting on PJ to do the same. I'm waiting on him too, so i know. You gotta believe that either he knows best and is doing what he must to ensure we get delivery or something bad happened with him, which nobody wants. Noteven on the table, though, is he scammed us. It's just way way too early to even entertain the thought, let alone say it outloud.
You gotta think positive, kneegrows.
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HEY VMM,
Packaged received!!! KEEP THE FAITH!!! Hell yeah!! Perfect shipping techniques and always quality product. AND I HAD A LARGE ORDER!!! Did I mention... I HAD A LARGE ORDER!!! PACKAGE RECEIVED. THE eagle has landed!! I AM ON TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN SHOUTING DOWN TO ALL WHO CAN HEAR. "VMM is a legitimate businessman and VERY HONEST!! HIS SHIT IS GREAT TOO!!"
Sometimes shit happens and you gotta deal with it. It is how you deal with it that matters. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK VMM!!! GET YOUR VENDOR ACCOUNT BACK SOON!!
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So are people still receiving orders or what? I have fully given up on my order ever arriving, but there seems to be a slim chance that it might? What's the deal...
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Good to hear people are receiving and enjoying!
Seems like the faith in many has been rewarded
Just waiting for the day i can post good news too.
Has anyone down under received there product?
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I think he will get to everyone eventually. The ones further back, though will need to help him remember if he doesn't. But, I think he wants everyone happy, here. Admittedly I pushed him a bit to expedite mine. I told him that after the 30th I would not be able to get mail from that box and I didn't want his shit to end up in the wrong hands and asked if he'd please keep that in mind in light of the backlog. Besides that though, I never messaged him. Believe me, I know how anxious you get after you order stuff. I've made a stack of orders in my short time here, but messaging asking where your shit is hurts every aspect of the transaction. It slows people down, it makes them skip your pm when they see multiple a day from you and just makes your experience worse than it already is. And can you really not understand a vendor being shady about when he's doing the mail? If I were vending I'd bounce all my mail. It would always take a week to get shit. I got friends all over this country. I could easily send one a box full of orders and tell them to just take the letters out of the box and drop em in a blue drop off box. That way post marks would always be a looong way away. I suspect it's being done here, if they are smart.
I think it was obvious VMM was not a thief when he returned time after time after being berated to holy fuck and back by an angry mod lol. Homeboy has my respect, and I imagine that goes for several people who have not posted in this thread, but followed.
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Glad to see everyone getting paid off. As critical as i was of VMM I'am glad he came through. He could have fucked everyone including me. Hopefully he comes back and runs his operation a little more better this time.
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sweet scale...
Thanks man. I bought it back when I was experimenting with phenazepam...it didn't help then because that shit will take you out of it to the point where you don't know if you've dosed at all, once, or three times and all of the sudden it's next week. I went through a gram of that shit within a 48 hour period, or so I'm told. I woke up to an empty bag of phenazepam and an empty Jack Daniel's bottle, albeit the tiny one. I compulsively calibrate the scale as it's so god damn sensitive. I have to turn off any air conditioning and fans, and try not to breathe in its general direction, but it has served me well and the price was right, I think it was under $50 USD and had decent reviews at the time. If you look closely you'll see that while .572g is printed on the paper, by the time the scale made up it's mind it was 0.571g. I'm really hoping VMM will man up and reship that 0.001g ;)
I'll buy from him again simply because of the way he handled you guys. […] I think he's a stand up dude. Not many would have tried to fix this. Most would just walk off and start anew saying "thats how it goes when you play the game"
I couldn't have said it better myself. For those of you who still haven't received, don't give up and don't give the man too much shit, he's only human. Like I mentioned previously, I waited ~48 days, while my previous order, only two days prior to that, arrived in the typical time frame - quickly. I think I was on the front end of things going to hell and I hate to speculate as it's none of my business, but perhaps he's practicing the "first in, first out" inventory method for delivery.
Patience is a virtue, and I'm not a virtuous person. So just do like I did and say "fuck it, if it comes it comes". Waiting expectantly is what's agitating so many people I reckon.
I know I'm rambling again, can't help it you know, but has anyone else noticed the lack of "mayne vmm be all rippin folks off yo, yous stupid fo thankin he gon do shit, he grinnin witcha moany rite now and yall still suckin his dick, praisin him an shit" posts since people started receiving?
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Word of warning peeps on this current one.
Whilst the high is the best.. I am experiencing the worst come down off meth ever and I never ever usually experience one. Don't say I didn't warn ya. So be careful.
Now I know what my mate felt like the other day when we almost got into a smash over fuck all... besides no more available.
Over and out.
How would you describe the come down? It's been an hour or two since I did any and I still feel done for the night.
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No point derailing this thread. Carry on.
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abc dude... yeah, take some vitamins, eat something easy if you have it, close the curtains, lock the doors, turn off phones, alarms and your computer and get some rest.
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How would you describe the come down? It's been an hour or two since I did any and I still feel done for the night.
Everyone will likely be fine. I probably hit it too hard. Started last Thursday and haven't really looked back.
Just today right now, I feel like absolute garbage. No emotions. It's like I have no soul is the best way to describe it.
It's likely just all in my head and isolated to my own problems. Ya'll keep hitting it now.. don't listen to a fried fuck. :D
yeah, you been on one of those. I've been on millions of those. Usually with coke, but I have did heroin and mda for days straight. Talk about feeling souless. I still would like to know how this compares to others. Like how much better can it get, and believe me, I'm not asking so I can find it lol.
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Still awaiting refund/sending from order from 6 weeks ago.... Well not really waiting anymore persay...
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Vmm, can you please reply to my PM on here to let me know whats going on?
:D , M
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got a message a few days ago from Vmm asking for my info again...so i sent it. Havent heard from him since and he wont respond to my messages.....................im pooped
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Amazing.. Still nothing. No package, no answer on PM.
I'll stick to DubG in the future.
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Amazing.. Still nothing. No package, no answer on PM.
I'll stick to DubG in the future.
Same boat as me buddy. Exhausting isnt it
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You'll get it eventually guys.
I've been there twice. Received 1st order ( nice stuff, overweight ) about 25 days late at the end of march. Very unresponsive and sometimes mails seems they don't belong to me ( bulk reply ? ).
I've placed another order a few days before and the same thing is happening now.
I think he's just overloaded and respond to a few at a times. I had an unread mail and an unread resolution, he came, accept the resolution ( 10 more days ) but didn't read the mail for 5 days. Now he responded, ask for the address again, I sent him, I got a quick reply which really belong to me and it seems that I'll get the stuff soon.
Just send him 1 mail and wait for an answer, it sometimes takes weeks but I've always got a reply. I know it sucks but he's getting back on track, be patient and order for someone else if you need it fast.
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Lol, VMM reminds me of the soup nazi, but with meth. He doesn't seem to really care if you like his service, this is how he does it and you keep coming back. Message the fuck out of him, and NO METH FOR YOU hahaha. The recent fiasco aside, that just seems to be his MO. People who have been dealing with him for a minute pretty much all agree that you buy on his terms, not yours. It's easy to see SR like amazon or any other retail site. All the pics that make you drool and everything you could possibly want to ingest available with a few clicks. But it aint amazon, or ebay or any of that. It's a post modern interpretation of a market that has been around with all these same problems for a long long time.
VMM don't be givin a fuck lol
Where is Wulong2? That cat was aight. Wulong2, what the fuck son? You done trollin?
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^ lol hp.
VMM if you read this, please, if you could, put me somewhere at the top of the list of priority [i hope saying this doesnt do the opposite :-\] lol. Considering I'm one of the people who've been waiting longest, 45+ days.
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VMM responded last night, but it was about how he couldnt decrypt my message. Thats completely my fault. I feel now its gonna add days to receive, it probably would've been here if I done it right. Bummer. Thing is, i dont know if the reply I sent is encryptable..hope it is or else just more days added.
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Im not sure how flooded your inbox is bro, but I'm not gonna spam it with bs. For real, I try not to message and add clutter. So if you read this here, please dont skip or move me to the back because of my dumbass fail lol. You dont know how much I'd appreciate it if I receive this week [takes about 3-4 days to reach me I think].
Thanks man.
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YAAAy, Vmm messaged me both on SR and on here telling me that my packages have shipped and to expect it by friday. HORRAAY. I will absolutely update when I get it. THANKS VMM!!!!!! IM SUPER EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's cool that you guys received your shit and all but my 5 days old message still hasn't been read
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Well after about 30 days and multiple back and forths about his situation, VMM did put my order in the mail a week ago, and happily it arrived a couple days ago. AND it's easily the best batch I've ever gotten from him. Shit blew my face off! Thanks VMM - you da man!
As I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, the wait sucked but this was the only time I've ever had a problem like this with him. And he took care of me just like I knew he would, no matter how eventually.
Everybody who hasn't got their orders - you will get it. Just be patient and order something from a vendor with faster delivery (DubG) in the meantime. You won't be disappointed with the product once you get it, that's for sure.
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I agree . I also received a nice package form Vortex yesterday only three days after he left a message saying it was in its way. Was crushed by the mail probably but strong and I have been hitting some other shards pretty good for 5 days. Still this batch was very strong. Have faith and keep the positive vibes the man is working his way thru the list.
VMM please read my message or PM me here if you get thew chance. Cant wait to see you back up and listing
Hilly
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where did vortexmilkman go? would like to buy some gear from him :)
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where did vortexmilkman go? would like to buy some gear from him :)
good luck
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what happened to him/her? guess i will get from vroom or whoever else is a domestic vendor ;)
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what happened to him/her? guess i will get from vroom or whoever else is a domestic vendor ;)
good luck
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good luck getting any meth these days...
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Should be expecting a package today or tomorrow according to VMM. Mail comes in 2 hours....will update. Im excited but not getting my hopes up.
BTW, Vmm's account has been temp suspended until he gets caught up which he seems to be doing so hopefully we will see him back soon. :)
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Well the mail came a little earlier than usual.... No package. Hopefully tomorrow?
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where did vortexmilkman go? would like to buy some gear from him :)
One of the funniest posts I've seen for a while! I think the mob has finally chased him away... quite sad really
It seems VMM has had quite a few problems both with his "business" itself in terms of cheating partners and potential security breaches; and with all of the hate and incredible demands a lot of the buyers, new ones in particular, have been showering him with over the last couple of months!
Despite all of these issues, has somewhat maintained his service and has been doing right by a lot of buyers, and if his posts are anything to go by, the word "profit" has been a very distant relative to him for a while now because instead of running away he chose to stay and try to make it right.
Doesn't look like he has the ability to do that now with a suspended vendor account...
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Well the mail came a little earlier than usual.... No package. Hopefully tomorrow?
I'm on day 43 and no package AND no replies from VMM. I'm convinced he is ignoring everyone that doesnt complain in this thread, so I will continue posting updates every day.
Yeah...I hate to say it but I didnt start getting replies until I started posting. I look forward to hearing your updates ;)
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Almost 6 weeks after finalizing, product finally arrived. Not quite worth the annoying anticipation, but I'm happy it got here. Better late than never. Sack is 62mg heavy and its some great shit to boot! Smokes just as well as Heis's shit back around the new year. I hope VMM gets his operations ironed out; will order again if he can get back on his game. Thank you VMM for making good on us!
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Day 40 after finalizing early.
I'm still checking the mail day after day but I've heard nothing from VMM. :'(
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Day 40 after finalizing early.
I'm still checking the mail day after day but I've heard nothing from VMM. :'(
Congrats! After day 40 you get to grow a scraggly beard and every time you go to the mailbox, you have to bring Wilson your new volleyball friend
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welp, i ordered from vortexmilkman about three weeks ago. he did message me a few days ago saying that he wanted me to resend my info, but he hasn't read it yet :[
vroom offered to send me some in the mean time, but he seems to be having some issues with his partner.
the stims market is kinda in heavy flux at the moment. i wonder what happened to tetravort...
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welp, i ordered from vortexmilkman about three weeks ago. he did message me a few days ago saying that he wanted me to resend my info, but he hasn't read it yet :[
vroom offered to send me some in the mean time, but he seems to be having some issues with his partner.
the stims market is kinda in heavy flux at the moment. i wonder what happened to tetravort...
Vroom is a great guy....i have ordered from him in the past- that guy overnighted me a package once and didnt charge me for shipping. His stuff isnt the best but come on,....that is worth some bonus points. Im not sure whats going on with his partner bc i havent ordered from him for a while but im sure he will work it out.
According to VMM, I should receive my packages that i ordered on March 27. The mail hasnt come yet but I will update when it does. Should be in an hour or so.
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Day 40 after finalizing early.
I'm still checking the mail day after day but I've heard nothing from VMM. :'(
Congrats! After day 40 you get to grow a scraggly beard and every time you go to the mailbox, you have to bring Wilson your new volleyball friend
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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My order from a month ago is finally here! Don't have time to try it out now, but it smells nice and is a nice sized chunk. I almost gave up hope it was ever going to get here. Thanks, VMM for making good.
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I have one order with this guy, and, well, the status says it all:
ordered: March 6, 2012, 8:24 pm UTC
shipped: March 8, 2012, 3:25 pm UTC
Not received as of 4/27, despite providing VMM with my address *twice*. I'm pretty much giving up on it, I'm checking my mail drop at the end of the day and if it's not there I'll have no choice but to leave negative feedback, I feel I've been very very patient already. Out of 24 transactions I've made with various vendors this is the only one that hasn't been successful. Unfortunately since I FE'd by request my BTCs are lost but no big deal, it wasn't a big order.
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Glad to hear everyone updating after receiving my goods!
Rocko71, please msg me on the site, if you havent already.
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AS PROMISED I SAID I WOULD UPDATE WHEN I RECEIVED MY PACKAGE. I WENT DOWN TO GET THE MAIL AND A BEAUTIFUL PACKAGE WAS WAITING FOR ME. IT WAS .25 OVERWEIGHT AND IT IS LOVELY QUALITY. FEELING PRETTY GREAT RIGHT NOW. :) :) :) :)
Vmm, thank you for honoring your part of the deal. Im very happy regardless of the month it took. You're awesome vmm. I want more already! Please get your account back up and running FAST. Would love to put in another order.
To everyone who hasnt received yet...dont give up hope- you will receive soon.
Blessings, M
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It is good to hear people updating upon arival.
Vmm has assured me that everyone will get there stuff eventually.
So all sounds good. I hope my wait isn't much longer.
But joined forum so I could update upon arrival to.
Zone1
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welp, i ordered from vortexmilkman about three weeks ago. he did message me a few days ago saying that he wanted me to resend my info, but he hasn't read it yet :[
vroom offered to send me some in the mean time, but he seems to be having some issues with his partner.
the stims market is kinda in heavy flux at the moment. i wonder what happened to tetravort...
Vroom is a great guy....i have ordered from him in the past- that guy overnighted me a package once and didnt charge me for shipping. His stuff isnt the best but come on,....that is worth some bonus points. Im not sure whats going on with his partner bc i havent ordered from him for a while but im sure he will work it out.
According to VMM, I should receive my packages that i ordered on March 27. The mail hasnt come yet but I will update when it does. Should be in an hour or so.
I agree. I've had super good results with vroom in the past. I'm troubled that he's missing.
I see you received your loot as well. Fuck Yeah!
I ordered around the first week in april, so I'm hopefully in line behind you. I wasn't aware the queue was that long and this is my first order with him. I'm sure he knows I'm not worried. I haven't messaged him except to resend my info. Plus he did my a favor on the price.
Online businesses suck on the real. I sold some stuff online and it was easily the most annoying vocation I've ever ventured into, and I've dug ditches before. At the end of a few months, I was ready to sell magazine subscriptions door-to-door just to get out of it.
Mailing shit out everyday can suck the ever-loving life right the fuck out of you.
I'm glad everyone is getting their shit. Think of ol' Petey when you torch/bang one of those shards.
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Day 40 after finalizing early.
I'm still checking the mail day after day but I've heard nothing from VMM. :'(
Congrats! After day 40 you get to grow a scraggly beard and every time you go to the mailbox, you have to bring Wilson your new volleyball friend
haha +1 thats awesome!
Funniest thing I've read here in a long time. :D Can't stop snickering, and I'm at freaking work. How could I ever possibly explain what I was laughing at? There's just no way.
But to keep it on track... I'll order from you again VMM, when you get your issues worked out. No way you would be trying so hard to get back on top if you just didn't give a shit. Climbing back up the ladder is tough when you've already fallen off and broken your leg... Much harder than climbing it the first time.
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I heard back from Vortex on pm and resent shipping info a couple days ago. VMM still hasn't read the message but I'm pretty optimistic now. Hope it comes next week!
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I heard back from Vortex on pm and resent shipping info a couple days ago. VMM still hasn't read the message but I'm pretty optimistic now. Hope it comes next week!
I'm curious when you and showcase ordered...
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Since this thread is up and going; I just finished my bag from VMM. When I get some for my buddy to try, I'll buy it from VMM.
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Is VMM's seller account back open now?
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Dont think so.
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My messages were finally answered
I resent my address and then was told the letter had been sent yesterday
Crossing my fingers
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After a little over 4 weeks product was finally received. He added extra to make up for the long wait. Though, the product wasn't as good as pictures i originally looked at. Oh well, he kept true to his word. :P
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I'm curious when you and showcase ordered...
47 days since order and 40 since finalizing early
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I'd just like to add my concern about this dealer. Over 6 weeks since I ordered, made me FE, and has twice apologized for messing up, only to then leave me hanging again.
I'm resigned to this being the first time I've been ripped-off on SR, especially as he's not replying and his profile has been set to 'message only'.
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I heard back from Vortex on pm and resent shipping info a couple days ago. VMM still hasn't read the message but I'm pretty optimistic now. Hope it comes next week!
Yeah it's been over 40 days here too... After about 20 he sent me a message asking to resend my order number so I did.
Been another 20 days haven't heard anything about if my orders been sent or not so im just sort of hoping at the moment? hah
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Glad to hear everyone receiving....
so sorry candorean, im scrolling thru all my inboxes looking for unread msgs...im still buried with right under 150 new and old messages......so apologies bout that.
Msg me now if you can
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I'm just glad to see VMM is keeping up with his own thread every once and a while. At this point I'll just be happy if it shows up, I'm not really holding my breath. VMM is good people, though.
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Yeah, dude has hung in there in spite of the hecklers, and there were a gang of them bitches at one point. I was interested to see how it would play out and would have lived my life just fine had I lost that money. But VMM definitely earned my respect and I will buy from him again just to prove that.
I'm gonna let him get caught up first lol
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hey vortex,
i resent my details in an SR message again. please let me know if you have received it. i used the new key.
its good to hear that everyone is receiving their orders. hope mine gets shipped soon aswell.
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5 weeks now. I have been told i will be getting my package but vortexmilkman refuses to confirm if it has been shipped. I need an answer because i have 3 mailboxes tied up waiting for his package. This alone is loosing me a fortune, far more than the 16 grams i finalized early for.
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I'm just glad to see VMM is keeping up with his own thread every once and a while. At this point I'll just be happy if it shows up, I'm not really holding my breath. VMM is good people, though.
If he can make it happen he will. I feel that in my gut and know it from experience.
I hope he's not so fucked somehow that he can't, that's all.
Hang in there VMM.
Speaking of feeling it in my gut, I have to get back to the Tony thread...........
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Holy shit that was some post I made. Just wanna say a lot of overexaggerating there. Now that I'm coming down after about 6-7 hours sleep the past two days here and there, I'm glad everything worked out in the end. The quality is definitely on par as the stuff I can get here, in hindsight, just with less cut making VMM's stuff better.
As for Terrible Pete, think you were wonderin how long me and someone else waited...I ordered March 9th, finalized two days later about, and got my stuff on Friday the 27th. Was quite the wait but it was definitely worth it now, because the product was crazily obese. I aint got a scale unfortunately but judgin by eye and the fact .5 usually don't last me this long, and I still got some leftover, thats alot man for an occasional user like me.
Hope the rest of you guys get your stuff soon, but it'll get there. Laters
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Dude!?
How did you order from vmm 8 days ago?
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I was expecting an order from another vendor when VMM's package arrived and gave me a nice surprise!
there's nothing like getting a crystal package when u weren't expecting it ;-)
So after the nice long wait, I get a surprise that's double what ordered. Even better!
It looks great too....didn't try yet though. I'm just happy to have received it.
He really could have just takin off with everyones money so I give him lotsa credit for coming through.
Thanks VMM ;-)
Sorry to anyone still waiting but after a month, I thought I wasn't getting mine either & here it is.
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i'm going insane not knowing if my old order is coming through.
Vortex please msg me. I'm starting to have dreams about the mail.
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hey vortex,
ive tried to msg you on sr and on hear,not sure if my msgs r getting to u,just wondering about my order i put in back in march?
thanx leap12
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At this point I think I am out my ~$50usd. I hate to say it, but the way VMM keeps asking for shipping info again and not giving refunds.....he smells like LE.
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At this point I think I am out my ~$50usd. I hate to say it, but the way VMM keeps asking for shipping info again and not giving refunds.....he smells like LE.
I suppose that's possible but I went for it and sent the address again. He messaged me today saying that my order was on its way so I'll let you all know if/when it arrives.
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25 days in and still no product, VMM won't response to my messages on here.....
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I wonder if vortex is sending out in order cos I ordered about 6 weeks ago I think.
He has my address.
Hmmm... guess we'll see.
I got a lonely pipe to and no dough for a few days so fuck I'm checking the box still daily.
A very emotional experience this wait is.
I know VMM is in recovery mode but I'd love to see my shit like the rest of you.
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Got a nice surprise today. 7 business days to reach me... about 4g or so, quick smoke before I had to run. It's what I have come to expect from this solid vendor.
His shipping times to me have been outstanding the past 2. Your going to have to make that a 3rd very soon, VORTEX. BIGGER.
Much love. <3
well fuck me.
im logging in to SR 5+ times a day, just to see if VMM has read my msg.
thats fucked up.
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Sooo, are you a secretary?
Can I see your bewbies?
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I'm not sure why anyone would support him VMM anymore.
I've had faith in him the entire time but he lack of responding to messages is just disrespectful. Shit happened, that's great, he' tried to salvage it as best he can and some people have got their packages. But to still ignore everyone else is just bad business. All it takes is 2 minutes to confirm in a message my order has been shipped.... that's it.
I'll be continuing to support The Store for now on as long as he has supply up. His stuff is amazing and arrives faster than anyone's.
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I respect that he doesn't try to front like he's 7-11, that's why I like him. He's like, this is how I do business and you can buy here or not. Like I said once before, he's like the soup nazi, but with meth. He's obviously not out to rip anybody off, but he aint about to dvr his favorite show so he can get those orders out. If I wanted meth for this weekend, I'd order elsewhere. If I didn't care when it came, I'd order from him.
Id say my faith in a vender's ability to ultimately deliver and do so safely, is more important than "customer service". Not talkin down to you at all, but you asked why anybody would support him and thats why I do.
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VORTEX PLEASE REPLY
its been another 10days today on top of the first 50days, im reading some people have got there product yet i still have not seen any thing at all not even a email to explain what is happening, the last convo we had was 10days ago and you said "dont worry im sorting it all out and yours will be sent" well its 10days later and nothing at all and i mailed you on the main site 3days ago and you aint even read it.
this is your final chance to contact me and offer a refund before i start letting rip on this thread and start changing feedback.
vortex you need to improve your communication skills with your customers
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I respect that he doesn't try to front like he's 7-11, that's why I like him. He's like, this is how I do business and you can buy here or not. Like I said once before, he's like the soup nazi, but with meth. He's obviously not out to rip anybody off, but he aint about to dvr his favorite show so he can get those orders out. If I wanted meth for this weekend, I'd order elsewhere. If I didn't care when it came, I'd order from him.
Id say my faith in a vender's ability to ultimately deliver and do so safely, is more important than "customer service". Not talkin down to you at all, but you asked why anybody would support him and thats why I do.
Logic for me would roll something like, if you can get the same product elsewhere for less hassle; why wouldn't you? This was my first order with VMM, maybe I should have started with 1g not 3.5g because it's become a joke. And like I said, I probably have more faith that it will come (judged by the fact that he still posts here once in awhile) but ignoring customers is disrespectful when you have their money.
Here's to hoping it shows within the next 3 weeks before I move. *shutters*
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I bet when you get it, it's over 4gms
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meh.
How how about the bewbies? Can I see em?
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C'mon vortexmilkman how about at least one of my packages.
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Hey abc!
What state are you in? Ever considered being like an aussie middle man, and taking care of VMM's aussie owed orders, seeing as you keep getting yours, and not many others are? It'd be splendid. :)
FB
Sooo, are you a secretary?
Can I see your bewbies?
Just passing along the message. Don't shoot the messenger.
If I didn't post and the cunt fucks off for 2 weeks and doesnt respond to you all and nothing arrives for anyone, would u even really notice anyway? Since apparently the fag doesnt respond to ya'll.
As long as this most amazing meth vendor world-wide they call VORTEX MILKED YOU MAN keeps sending me meth, I will do the righty.. by the community who never hear from the cunt after FE. He can send me all ya orders well hes at it and I'll pack this mother fucker right up and shoot off into the clouds for the next 12 months thinking im king ding a ling coz the mad cunt sent me meth well others have been waiting longer, sad sad for u all I truly am man. But fuck, what can I do.
THE DEMON NEEDS TO FEED.
You'll all be right, let the cunt go for a holiday and come back in style.
Over the next 2 weeks I will be hitting up other meth vendors who have the goods, spewin if u did FE early just write it off for now and when it comes it comes. I'm sure he will get to you after he has got to me again. :)
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Hey all, I was pretty wasted when I wrote all that last night. I don't know if I was the one who was being called childish, but whatever.
I stand by what I say.
What's up?
What's happening?
Apology accepted. ha-ha
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i cannot even begin to describe how i feel about my first order on silk rd.
i ordered way back at the start of march 2x 1/2gr 10 btc fire sales.
i received 3 quick fire msg from vmm asking for me to fe early which i did, being my first order.
and so i excitedly waited like a child does on christmas day to open his presents, only by day 15 my present had not arrived. (vmm said 7-15 days down under)
so i politely sent a msg asking if all was well, when he finally answered, 6 days later i was informed of the misfortune that had taken place and resent my info.
i am glad to hear people are getting their gear, but whats up with you ABC getting more gear while we wait over 40 days for are gear?
do you really have to gloat on here about that?
the man cant even make right on outstanding orders but can fix your new orders right away?
so waiting for gear to fix us all up obviously is not the problem.
not even one msg from vmm to update my order.
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Well, 3 full weeks after I placed my order, VMM accepted resolution and I got my money back. At least he's not a scammer. Hope you get your business sorted, VMM. Props to SR for providing an effective resolution mechanism.
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Received my package today. Was about 30 days old but I wasn't very worried, been there before.
Awesome stuff like last time, 5/5. Actually it was for a friend and he called me, he's a long time addict of about everything but first time smoking meth. First time ever I'm hearing him saying "too strong" when talking about drug, I hope he'll be fine, i'm sure he'll be.
So well thanks VMM, once again it wasn't and easy transaction but you delivered, thanks !
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Update: Letter received this morning. VortexMilkMan came through! All good, just took much longer than I had anticipated !
Thanks for persevering with me.
All the best,
FB
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Is VMM on stealth or something? I was hoping to buy some of his shit but I haven't been able to find any in a couple of weeks...
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VMM seems to be pulling through for a few aussies, wicked to know.
@ABC, i swear you have the biggest spoon for stirring the pot i have ever seen, i love it!! keep on rolling cunt!!!!!
No shit. All of his loyal customers wwere sure he'd pull through eventually. Hell, His been sending orders out for almost 2 weeks now. He sent mine today
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Just when you begin to give up hope.
There it is VMM's letter.
Good shit. Would order again just would hope not to wait to long.
Over all the man stayed in contact and could of not bothered so thanks dude.
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How do I contact him?
You have to contact Vortexmilkman directly for any new orders and send the BTC direct to him. Silkroad Admin actually said this was OK to do when someone queried how I am placing new orders with Vortex.
Of course your going outside of everything and have to have trust, otherwise just go with someone else.
Vortex has also gone on holiday for 2 weeks so I doubt you will be hearing anything from him.
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You would have to be out of your mind to give this guy a cent. I am still out my $$$. Why even risk it?
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This is fucked... can you sharded cunts please stop ordering more and boycott this mother fucker until he fulfills the orders he hasn't yet...
I'm at like 50 fucking days and he only read my address re-send 3 days ago, 2 weeks after he requested and I sent it...
ABC123nuthin I hate you, can you please shut the fuck up. :)
Also I'm not mad...
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60 days.
Nothing but lies.
Said he sent.
Then said he hadn't but did this time.
Then said he hadn't again, but really, honestly this time.
Now says he has no gear, but will get to me as soon as he can.
Really, honestly, this time.
I found out after I ordered that he'd threatened to send another buyer's shipping address to the fucking police, because they complained about being ripped off.
And this market knew about it. AND CHOSE TO LET HIM KEEP VENDING.
Can someone please explain to me why they think it is OK for a vendor to keep receiving postal addresses of customers, when he has threatened to go to fucking law enforcement? And what does 'fucking stupid' mean? Cos the two obviously go hand in hand.
Forgive my tone brothers - but I respectfully submit that this situation is completely fucking unacceptable.
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I sure hope that didn't happen.
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OK now that we have that outta the way, I cant boycott him if he is continuing to send me gear in record turn around times. I placed an order 5g order yesterday I think, I'll let u know bro if I get it hey and I'll swing some ur way... at double the price of what u originally got milked by that faggot Vortex. :D :P
haha fuck ya :D
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ABC123...whateva ur name is:
..."Don't be mad.. do what I do. Consider your money GONE once u place an order.. and dont expect nuthin. Once you have no expectations only then u will see the light."...
So what's the point in ordering on SR??
VM scammed alot of us and I agree that there has been alot of good return from vendors for alot of us also...
This forum should be a place for us all to get a head's up on vendors on their way out, rather than rubbing shit in other buyers faces of how UR still receiving... Nice one bruva ;)
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Vortex supposedly shipped my order on Monday. It didn't arrive today but this would be the early end of expected delivery times anyways so I have my fingers crossed for tomorrow. You can bet I'll update as soon as it arrives.
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i cannot even begin to describe how i feel about my first order on silk rd.
i ordered way back at the start of march 2x 1/2gr 10 btc fire sales.
i received 3 quick fire msg from vmm asking for me to fe early which i did, being my first order.
and so i excitedly waited like a child does on christmas day to open his presents, only by day 15 my present had not arrived. (vmm said 7-15 days down under)
so i politely sent a msg asking if all was well, when he finally answered, 6 days later i was informed of the misfortune that had taken place and resent my info.
i am glad to hear people are getting their gear, but whats up with you ABC getting more gear while we wait over 40 days for are gear?
do you really have to gloat on here about that?
the man cant even make right on outstanding orders but can fix your new orders right away?
so waiting for gear to fix us all up obviously is not the problem.
not even one msg from vmm to update my order.
This is my exact situation but I live a lot closer.
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I'm thinking he might like some cock. He seems like a bit of a girl.. and milk man? what kinda name is that. Maybe he will re-invent the wheel and come back as vroomvroomvroom.
Funny thing, it'll have to be vroomvroomvroomvroom because:
Welcome vroomvroomvroom!
messages(0) | orders(0) | account($0.00) | settings | log out
:)
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/24eae33885
Vortexmilkman seller account back up. Hopefully i will get my order soon... I still havent left my feedback for FE.
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Hi everyone!
I ordered from VMM mid March, nothing received so far! He stayed in contact with me via PM and he promised he would ship and that I would receive my order plus some little extra to make up for all the trouble. Well, that was 23 days ago, and as I already mentioned, I'm still waiting for my package to finally come.
Today I wrote VMM another message asking him what's going on, I'll keep on updating about the situation here!
Greetz,
BlackID
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Good to see his account back up.
Would be GREAT to see my packages!
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I've not received any word from vortex for going on a month so I'm getting a bit frustrated. My biggest problem is having to babysit my mailbox for the past 2 months wondering if my wife will get to it first. Now I'm going out of town in a couple of weeks and I'm starting to really worry. All I need is information... was it sent or wasn't it? Will it be sent or wont it? At this point I'd rather have the information rather than the product. This has been a very anxiety producing experience, all because the lack of communication. Please vortex if you are reading, its ok that things didn't work out... you can keep the money but please be straight forward... is it coming or not?
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If vortexmilkman is on vacation then how is he selling lollipops? I'm just curious...
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sent me an email saying "EN ROUTE" 4 days ago. Monday it should be here. I'll let ya'll know.
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I've not received any word from vortex for going on a month so I'm getting a bit frustrated. My biggest problem is having to babysit my mailbox for the past 2 months wondering if my wife will get to it first. Now I'm going out of town in a couple of weeks and I'm starting to really worry. All I need is information... was it sent or wasn't it? Will it be sent or wont it? At this point I'd rather have the information rather than the product. This has been a very anxiety producing experience, all because the lack of communication. Please vortex if you are reading, its ok that things didn't work out... you can keep the money but please be straight forward... is it coming or not?
get a PO box or different address.. if your trying to hide shit then why send it to your own house ? thats the most retarded thing i have read on SR.. hope you get caught
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re: *6 weeks*.. where is my order dude?
Wow, i took the time to write you that, you drug addict.
Since you have no decency or respect...i refuse to speak to you.
I refuse to help you any further.
I did not just spend over 9 k to get everyone sorted to be talked to like this.
I am back as a seller for a reason....only you call me scammer still...so i think ill let you think that...dont ever contact me again.
Had you learnt to shut your mouth and wait, maybe you would receive a nicer reply from me.
Byebye
And that, is the last message I received from this piece of shit, after I sent him the following message :-
"WHERE IS MY BITCOIN YOU PIECE OF SHIT." - After waiting two months, and being lied to about shipping five times.
Basically the deal is, if you buy from VMM, he feels he has the right to scam customers who complain about being ripped off....
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DigitalDong, that's a douchebag thing to say.
lawfulchaotic, sucks to be you. You can't tell your ol lady whats up? Mine only does the occasional lsd and shrooms and smokes a bit of grass. She is new to doing that, at 50 years old! Anyway, she definitely doesn't love my expermentation, but I cant imagine living with someone I had to hide shit from, fuck that. You should try to get all that shit on the table and come to an agreement. When I met my wife she didn't want marijuana (LOL, yes she called it marijuana) near her house and her kids, now she smokes with them. We smoke as a family quite often, it's no different than having a glass of wine. Point is, once she knew the reality of things, rather than what she'd been taught all her life by the US government's propaganda machine and it's pet media, it simply wasn't an issue. Just as her trusting me enough to know I won't let shit get out of hand makes me ordering meth a non-issue. To be perfectly clear, she does not like it lol. She is scared to death of the shit I do, but she trusts me. Spend some time brainwashing your ol lady, she will trust you too. Imagine if it came while you're gone and she resent it to where you are with a fresh pack of 1cc 29 gauge works. That would be sweet eh?
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Quickk to snitch to the forums skipjack..
are you seirous?
Did you not see all the messages u sent were unread ?
UNREAD...That means I did NOT read them till just now when I replied.....
I said I would get your order out to you did I not?
Did I not say I will handle your order?
You continued to barrage me with disrespectful posts......so yes, I refuse to answer any more questions.
Youll get your order when you get it.
Lol @ you you crybaby...."OMG everyone I sent a message titled you piece of shit, and vortex messaged me back rudely!!"
No shit!!!
Youll get your shit, but dont dare continue to call me scammer and "piece of shit".....maybe then byt he time I read your messages I would be able to happyily provide a detailed account of your send.
No1 lied about your shipping times....I said i had issues and a bunch of people got orders delayed......are you really that stupid?
You are only bringing attention to yourself.....do you really think your post or complaint has any impact after the shitstorm I just went thru?
Stop whining, youll get what you ordered.....a grand total of .5g
Keep throwing around the word scam, next time it might be with a not-so-nice vendor who just might be like "fine, im a scammer" and take your shit......
fortunately im a nice guy and you can run your mouth to the forums and complain and ill still keep my word.
Im done with you
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MAY 6th- OFFICIAL UPDATE TO ALL
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I have my seller status back, but I am on vacation mode and stealth and will not be accepting any new orders until I handle tie up a few more loose ends.
This should be exciting news for my loyal buyers.
Get ready, I promised an epic return, did I not?
Once Im back you all will be in awe of my new operation.
Also, more importantly, I was going to announce today my leave of absence for 15-20 days, but it has been delayed to handle some last-minute business affairs.....I am also trying to handle all pending orders before I announce my official return as vendor, but this will not happen for I estimate at least 2 weeks, before I have lisitngs up, as I have to leave the city and handle extremely important affairs.
Once im back its on and poppin.
Thanks and stay tuned
P.S.
BlackID and the few others OOE/FE'ers who havent received, I got you all covered, "I will not forsake thee!"
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P.S.
BlackID and the few others OOE/FE'ers who havent received, I got you all covered, "I will not forsake thee!"
I hope that includes me? My messages on SR were read, but I didn't receive a confirmation.
Please let me know whether it has been sent, when you get back, and keep up the good work!
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I'm happy to report that VMM has made contact with me and arrangements are being made. His message was professional and courteous. Thanks VMM!
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VMM must be cherry picking who he fixes orders up with.
He has ignored my messages from an 8 ball I ordered back in March.
VMM account has been re-activated but whats happened to his feed back.It has taken a pretty big drop
..And where is all the recent feedback and reviews? - None showing for VMM.
VMM I don't know how you get away with playing the game like this but common man fix up your mistakes and bad business with EVERYONE.
Selective scamming at its very best - VMM your the man !
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i am flattered by your username
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i am flattered by your username
LOL! How does it feel to be known by millions. You're famous VMM haha
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Hey V, send me a msg if you need my mailing address again, I made a small order (.25) a while ago when people were flipping out and I haven't really followed it up with you
Either way, welcome back, look forward to talking biz with you in the future : )
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Wow, 2 and a half months and vortex got me my package.
Weighed DOUBLE what I ordered by the way.
Fuck ya, go vortex!
Still kinda mad I had to wait 2 and a half months, but, this honestly made up for it.
Thanks Vortex! Changed my rating to a 5/5 since you doubled my order.
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The fact is VMM was taking orders for what seems to be over a month while having no product to offer.
Now that the scumbag is back in business he is cherry picking who he sends product out to. Wake up here people.
I dont even think ive seen one 'sorry' from the spineless cunt.
If u were dealing in near me with your worth ethic you would be 6 foot under by now you worthless piece of shit.
And SR you fucking pussy's for activating his account again. You let this shit slide just shows how fucked up SR can really be.
Apologies for the rant and congrats to the ppl who ordered from VMM and actually received your order. Even if it was a month or two late - All new buyers out there if you buy from this scum do not FE early. Period.
I hope KARMA gets you back big time mother fucker. If I knew who you were I would kill you.
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I hope KARMA gets you back big time mother fucker. If I knew who you were I would kill you.
Ha-ha... Really? Tad bit extreme wouldn't you say? What happens when someone delays you during checkout at a store?
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Wow, 2 and a half months and vortex got me my package.
Weighed DOUBLE what I ordered by the way.
Fuck ya, go vortex!
Still kinda mad I had to wait 2 and a half months, but, this honestly made up for it.
Thanks Vortex! Changed my rating to a 5/5 since you doubled my order.
I'm happy to see you got your gear.
I bet it felt good to find it in the box today. Everyday I'm checking mine too.
How was the quality, did you like it? Did vmm send you an message saying it was sent last week?
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I dont even think ive seen one 'sorry' from the spineless cunt.
If u were dealing in near me with your worth ethic you would be 6 foot under by now you worthless piece of shit.
I hope KARMA gets you back big time mother fucker. If I knew who you were I would kill you.
Honestly, I'm detecting a little hostility.
I could be wrong, but I'm sensitive to these things.
what does the fyu stand for?
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The fact is VMM was taking orders for what seems to be over a month while having no product to offer.
Now that the scumbag is back in business he is cherry picking who he sends product out to. Wake up here people.
I dont even think ive seen one 'sorry' from the spineless cunt.
If u were dealing in near me with your worth ethic you would be 6 foot under by now you worthless piece of shit.
And SR you fucking pussy's for activating his account again. You let this shit slide just shows how fucked up SR can really be.
Apologies for the rant and congrats to the ppl who ordered from VMM and actually received your order. Even if it was a month or two late - All new buyers out there if you buy from this scum do not FE early. Period.
I hope KARMA gets you back big time mother fucker. If I knew who you were I would kill you.
this is well over the top man, give the guy a break man, he could have just logged out of this account when this started and never logged back in ever again, but no he carried on taking the shit, he done the right thing by us in the end. i know some are still waiting like me but he messaged me yesterday and told me mine had been shipped, and i honestly believe him this time because i can see all the people saying they got there's,
I dont think he done this to piss you off vmmfyu, everyone is in the same boat and calling him a piece of shit defo aint going to help your situation, it will piss him off and put you to the back of the list.
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How much ppl out there are still waiting on their order from the trustworthy VMM?
How much people are still waiting on a reply from the famous VMM?
How much people have already figured meh scammed and done nothing to follow?
Each to their own - I am one for his scam list thats for sure. 2 months as of today.
If he contacted me in anyway within this 60 day period offering a resolution in no way would I be this annoyed.
The only contact I do have from the mighty VMM is a demand to FE!
I feel Sorry to all the other ppl out there who put ya trust in this "person"
I think it would have been easier to see him go but to see his account re-opened is just curious.
And still why cant we see his feedback profile??
The best days of VMM are well in the past now.
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How much ppl out there are still waiting on their order from the trustworthy VMM?
How much people are still waiting on a reply from the famous VMM?
How much people have already figured meh scammed and done nothing to follow?
Each to their own - I am one for his scam list thats for sure. 2 months as of today.
If he contacted me in anyway within this 60 day period offering a resolution in no way would I be this annoyed.
The only contact I do have from the mighty VMM is a demand to FE!
I feel Sorry to all the other ppl out there who put ya trust in this "person"
I think it would have been easier to see him go but to see his account re-opened is just curious.
And still why cant we see his feedback profile??
The best days of VMM are well in the past now.
i understand what your saying as i have waited for 75+ days now, im waiting for 3x 1/2g's and my first order goes all the way back to january! but my point is he is trying to fix all the outstanding orders, sure he could have made more effort to keep in contact but i can only imagine how many msg he must be getting and i bet half of them are from the same people over and over again,
but i think vmm's future is bright cos if he can come though this shit storm and still delivered as promised people will know they can trust him, and to be fair on him it wasnt all his fault, from what he has said i think hes luck not to be sitting in a 6x9ft prison cell, and i thank god that didnt happen cos none of us would have got anything at all!
you will see vmm rise to the top again (mark my words) :)
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I really really really hope im included in the next mail drop. It has been soooooooooo long, but i have faith and i respect that your under pressure.
All the knobs who whinge and whine should be left out, they don't deserve shit!
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I really really really hope im included in the next mail drop. It has been soooooooooo long, but i have faith and i respect that your under pressure.
All the knobs who whinge and whine should be left out, they don't deserve shit!
I think all the "knobs who whinge and whine" should get the product they paid for or at least an
answer from this vendor.
VMM why are you still taking orders with the amount you already have back logged and owing to people?
How did you get SR to open your account again?
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Might i remind u, that at this point u have NOT being scammed, but i'm sure if you keep acting like a dick you will lose your money and your order.
His account is active because he DIDN'T scam and is working it all out OBVIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!
Also read his earlier post douche, he isn't posting any product till everyone has their orders.
THE END.
These forums were so much better before all these noobs came on here acting like tools. Fuck off!
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These forums were so much better before all these noobs came on here acting like tools. Fuck off!
this is so true :o
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Also read his earlier post douche, he isn't posting any product till everyone has their orders.
THE END.
Sorry I do not quite understand what you mean here. If you meant he is not taking any more orders you are wrong
-He has several listings active.
Also an update on his page saying:
Sorry I fucked up everyones order in the last 1 - 2 months but am working my hardest
to solve the problem?
nope? Nothing
i am glad he is replying to some of you but you have to agree he is cherry picking who he is helping out.
I have seen ppl here with their order 30days outstanding receive and many 45+ days still waiting on even a message or reply?!
Why the fuck was he taking orders for so long without sending them.
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I'm part way into my second month of waiting as well but Vortex said mine was "en route" last Monday. I believe him and have been hoping it would be here each of these last few days but alas it was not. May tomorrow shine a little brighter ::)
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Hi Vortex.
I posted on other thread but incase you didn't read can you please check your pm's
Waiting on an order from March thanks mate! I had 2x 3.5g ordered from your FRYDAY FIRE SPECIAL
Just an update would be greatly appreciated mate.
Many thanks!
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Ordered 0.75mg and only 0.5mg came in the mail 60 days later. Fuck it. 5/5 stars.
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i am glad he is replying to some of you but you have to agree he is cherry picking who he is helping out.
I made one of the first orders I ever made on here through VMM, he did seem swamped but I did my best not
harass him and everything was great in the end.
I was a million miles away, brand spanking new and it was the first time I dealt with him.
If you want to be "cherry picked" try being polite. Its really not that hard.
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The fact is VMM was taking orders for what seems to be over a month while having no product to offer.
Now that the scumbag is back in business he is cherry picking who he sends product out to. Wake up here people.
I dont even think ive seen one 'sorry' from the spineless cunt.
If u were dealing in near me with your worth ethic you would be 6 foot under by now you worthless piece of shit.
And SR you fucking pussy's for activating his account again. You let this shit slide just shows how fucked up SR can really be.
Apologies for the rant and congrats to the ppl who ordered from VMM and actually received your order. Even if it was a month or two late - All new buyers out there if you buy from this scum do not FE early. Period.
I hope KARMA gets you back big time mother fucker. If I knew who you were I would kill you.
did you think it's possible Karma is out to get you ? maybe for being a cosmic asshole the stars did not align to give an uber douche drugs that will only inflame his bad temper tantrums? if i were a vendor i would be reluctant to send you anything especially speed.
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Yes that post was over dramatic. I will admit that.
VMM still has a lot to answer for.
I still see there are lots of ppl waiting on even a reply.
Everyone here seems to be avoiding the facts here but hey best of luck to you all.
Enjoy ya meth guys
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[you're[Oh gawd… is anyone really going to by from this illiterate moron? If you do…. you're a fucking tweaker…..This guy need a serious ass whooping.
I propose that we get all the girl scouts rom troop 451 to kick his ass. If might be worth the price of admission.
This site is fucked up….. put the pipe down for a minute., look around hundreds of thousands have been ripped off. Of course, VMM was too stupid to clear more than a couple of bus tickets.
If you order from this illiterate moron…. you're a fool..
But you know you will….. because your're a tweaker….
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just a quick update for you all, i received a gram this morning of vortex, he came through in the end thanks vmm :)
i told you he would come though and he did, if you still waiting just chill trust me its coming :)
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It's been 57 days since I placed my order with VMM and still nothing...
Any update on when you'll be getting to it? :)
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I'm part way into my second month of waiting as well but Vortex said mine was "en route" last Monday. I believe him and have been hoping it would be here each of these last few days but alas it was not. May tomorrow shine a little brighter ::)
I'm in the same boat, have you gotten yours yet? It sucks checking the mail box everyday hoping for it to come and nothing...
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I know that feeling all too well haha. Negative on arrival. Maybe tomorrow?
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But that feeling when you open that box, and you see the envelope.. Its pretty awesome. :)
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I'm part way into my second month of waiting as well but Vortex said mine was "en route" last Monday. I believe him and have been hoping it would be here each of these last few days but alas it was not. May tomorrow shine a little brighter ::)
I'm in the same boat, have you gotten yours yet? It sucks checking the mail box everyday hoping for it to come and nothing...
Same here, though used to it not showing now. Either of you know how long international mail should take, he sed mine was en route 2 1/2 weeks ago.
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I'm on like 63 days now and I'm waiting for some sort of acknowledgement at all. I only sent vmm a couple messages and I don't think I was rude in them, at least I was not trying to be. I was angry and disappointed like 30 days ago and then I sort of forgot about it for a while. If I still had those bitcoins I would have ordered other drugs, but whatever its outside of my control so there is no reason to be worked up about it. Just reading about all these people getting their packages after waiting this long makes me extremely jealous.
I'll be changing addresses in less than a month from now and I would be extremely happy if it showed up all of a sudden.
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Are you guys all still so confident now.
Vortex - Would love to hear what you have to say to all these people?
I mean come on man - you have their money!
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I ordered roughly 2 months ago and was in the same boat with dozens(?) of others, left high and dry by the milkman.
A month later I was advised it would be resent and two weeks later I was advised that it had been sent.
I had my doubts obviously.
But the milkman delivered.
Took 14 days to get to Oz.
Thank You
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Same as the post above me.
2 months+ waiting
Got msg saying it was posted
Arrived on doorstep
Sure, delivery was slow due to multiple fuck ups but it got there in the end and that's all I care about and all I'll remember.
VMM has never let me down.
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Hey VMM, thanks for looking after us aussies!
When you get back, id like to place another order,
Cheers.
FB
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I'll check my box later today, but it's day 11 since sending and havn't gotten anything yet. This is domestic shipping as well.
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I'll check my box later today, but it's day 11 since sending and havn't gotten anything yet. This is domestic shipping as well.
I think you meant to say it's day 11 since "sending." You should probably do the air quote thing with your fingers too.
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VMM needs to come out and be explicit with his customers as to when his orders are shipped. Some of us have obligations to attend to and can't leave loose ends waiting for a letter that may or may not ever come. Some of our addresses will not necessarily stay safe for as long as he wants to drag us along. My order was supposedly shipped ...twice. He says he'll take care of it, but at this point I'd rather have my BTC back with interest.
I will be moving 3000 miles in the near future and I simply cannot have this unfinished business hanging over my head. I need to know when, if ever, it will get here or I don't want it at all. I'm sure I'm not the only one VMM is slowly screwing like this, and what makes me uncomfortable is not so much a few BTC, but the uncertainty of when he'll finally give it to me or pull out.
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It may not be the best option, but perhaps you could set up a mail re direction?.. Thats what I did.. But as I said, may not suit you.
Stay safe.
FB.
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If you order from this illiterate moron…. you're a fool..
But you know you will….. because your're a tweaker….
Don't understand why it's necessary to order from him when there are plenty of other more reliable vendors out there.
He sounds like a classic flake. Perhaps too spun out on his own stuff to be reliable which makes buying from him like playing roulette. Sometimes he might be on the money while others he's too spun to acknowledge a transaction. Why would that be worth the gamble, tweekers don't like getting played any more than anyone else, and won't bother gambling when there are other options available. The value of SR is the amount of protection it offers the buyer, if the buyer is smart enough to utilize it. Part of that is being able to shop for the best buyer to minimize risk. vmm sounds sketchy all the way around.
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Ordered 0.75mg and only 0.5mg came in the mail 60 days later. Fuck it. 5/5 stars.
You mean 750mg and 500mg
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MAY 6th- OFFICIAL UPDATE TO ALL
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I have my seller status back, but I am on vacation mode and stealth and will not be accepting any new orders until I handle tie up a few more loose ends.
This should be exciting news for my loyal buyers.
Get ready, I promised an epic return, did I not?
Once Im back you all will be in awe of my new operation.
Also, more importantly, I was going to announce today my leave of absence for 15-20 days, but it has been delayed to handle some last-minute business affairs.....I am also trying to handle all pending orders before I announce my official return as vendor, but this will not happen for I estimate at least 2 weeks, before I have lisitngs up, as I have to leave the city and handle extremely important affairs.
Once im back its on and poppin.
Thanks and stay tuned
P.S.
BlackID and the few others OOE/FE'ers who havent received, I got you all covered, "I will not forsake thee!"
V
I never heard from him directly but this update was enough to give me peace of mind, I have faith the dude will come through when he can
For those with faith, no explanation is necessary. For those without, no explanation is possible. – Thomas Aquinas
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ABC123nuthin : love having such a powerful local still on their original account :) LE troubles made me start this one. With SR allowing SR vendors to withdraw against their escrow, there isn't any reason to need FE. I'm still waiting on my weights from this vendor but i hope to see it within the month. Fingers crossed for the future!
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I managed to trade the rest of my samples i got from devilsdandruff for some awesome local koota... sweet clouds to fuck!
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Vortexmilkman is selling meth again.
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Ouch.
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With near-zero capital and having made good on about 95% of outstanding/backlogged orders...I have some stock left, and the only logical way to rectify and fulfill the couple Ozs worth of crystal that I owe to both non-sr & sr clients (fe'd/non-escrow) is to raise a few grand via sales...which thankfully i can do with my seller-status I obviously earned back due to keeping my word.
I am good and will always be sorry to all whose schedules and events that were screwed up all due to delays on the expected party favors.
These delays are a blessing as I am back and better than ever and those that complain...your orders would have become lost money to all if I didnt take a huge loss, relocate and rebuild my empire.
I will be doing sales with my fire sale prices still intact and cheaper than all, and will use those profits to tie up loose ends with the few still waiting to be handled.
I give my life to the Road and will never forsake you guys.
Thanks for staying strong with me during these turbulent times... those who have been patient have been rewarded.
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haha 95% yeah right, still haven't seen mine. WONT EVEN RESPOND TO MY MSGS!
If anyone falls for this again they deserve it!
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Riddikulus i obvv havent gotten to yours.
How can anyone fall for anything when i squared up with so many people...yea cunz u choose to be blind to those facts....keep throwing dirt at me and see if i get to our messages any faster...
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haha 95% yeah right, still haven't seen mine. WONT EVEN RESPOND TO MY MSGS!
If anyone falls for this again they deserve it!
yeah pretty much, another scam storm is a comin
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What else can you expect from paranoid schizos such as the two characters above.
Logically i wouldve been gone a long time ago Einstein...im not even going to go into this...i simply was giving a status update...i dont give a flying fuck if you order or not, as long as eeryones squard up...im always going to be making money.
Maybe youre ordering from someone who gets it from me, or is me, ...youll. Ever know will you?
The fact that i remain here is the real testament....im waiting and actually encouraging more shit talkers to come out the woodwork now.
Where are my groupies ,fukthis, and vmmfyu and the rest of the hardy boys?
V
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Riddikulus i obvv havent gotten to yours.
How can anyone fall for anything when i squared up with so many people...yea cunz u choose to be blind to those facts....keep throwing dirt at me and see if i get to our messages any faster...
Yeah, exactly. Haven't gotten to it... openly admit to taking people's money without provide a product STILL. You acknowledge the fact that you ripped me off OPENLY!
All it takes is a msg, "yo dude sorry, still not totally square, give me a week, you'll get it.".
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riddikulus, are you dumb?
I just replied to your msg on sr.......i said i didnt get to it.....how is that ripping you off?
people like you deserve nothing
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I just got paid today and have been dreaming of finally getting my first BTcoins and thought i was gona be able to taste some of vortex magic ! but i realised the vendor i was gona buy bitcoins from via SR , couldnt accept my purchase as it was too low (under $100), which i now totally understand why.
im searching madly now for another way to get bitcoins asap next few days. god i hope ur goodies are still available for a few days!!
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I'm going to chime in on this. It takes a lot of balls someone comes back PM everyone to try to sort out a messy situation. Hell most would have just got a new vendor account and started up fresh, or gone to the next scheme. All of those who want VMM to make things right, should give him the chance to do so. The bitching and belly aching ain't helping. chill out and wait. It takes time to clean up a mess. You are already out the the coin. It seems he is only asking for a little patience, which don't cost shit.
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I just got paid today and have been dreaming of finally getting my first BTcoins and thought i was gona be able to taste some of vortex magic ! but i realised the vendor i was gona buy bitcoins from via SR , couldnt accept my purchase as it was too low (under $100), which i now totally understand why.
im searching madly now for another way to get bitcoins asap next few days. god i hope ur goodies are still available for a few days!!
Use BitInstant and also set yourself up a Dwolla account.
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I have never ordered from you VMM, but have followed these events diligently as they have unfolded. While I understand the terrible frustration and sick feeling that people who haven't received are experiencing, I also see how hard you have worked to correct this. It is a true show of character man, because as it's been said - it would have been SO EASY and more PROFITABLE to start a new vendor account and start over. The fact that you didn't do that really says something.
Let the haters hate, because I believe that if you stay on the path you're on now you will undoubtedly resurrect the MilkMan Prophecy, and blaze a trail of satisfaction on the road. Just keep doing what you're doing; selling enough to keep capital coming in while you finance righting the wrongs.
Props to you for hanging in there -
Eco
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I have never ordered from you VMM, but have followed these events diligently as they have unfolded. While I understand the terrible frustration and sick feeling that people who haven't received are experiencing, I also see how hard you have worked to correct this. It is a true show of character man, because as it's been said - it would have been SO EASY and more PROFITABLE to start a new vendor account and start over. The fact that you didn't do that really says something.
Let the haters hate, because I believe that if you stay on the path you're on now you will undoubtedly resurrect the MilkMan Prophecy, and blaze a trail of satisfaction on the road. Just keep doing what you're doing; selling enough to keep capital coming in while you finance righting the wrongs.
Props to you for hanging in there -
Eco
As someone who ordered something, finalized early, and saw nothing show up... I figured it was just my luck. Shit like this always happens to me. I guess I'm easy to screw over, both online and off. I've learned from the multitude of times stuff like this has happened to me that it doesn't do any good to get mad. Stomping my feet and screaming doesn't work.. My thought is that I have PMed him my address... I've summarized that status... and that hopefully, my time will come and stuff with arrive.
So.. VMM -- mad props to you for cleaning up your mess, and not running and hiding... eco is right.... And when it comes time that things are even-steven with us again, I'd gladly order from you again.
And speaking of orders... I have two "in transit"... none of which arrived today.... So who has two thumbs and is climbing back in bed with the puppy? This guy.
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I'm just lucky VMM's product I got from him last Friday fucking keeps on going on. Now delays getting more well it's this hot. FML.
I got 1k sitting here waiting to get BTC so I can send it to VMM, but cant currently move on anything until I know more.
Tomorrows another day, I would cry myself to sleep .. but the fact of the matter is I have been up since last Friday, thanks Vortex I blame your meth for keeping me kicking along.. doing loop to loop loop loop to loop loop to loop loop to loop loop to loop loop to loop loop to loop loop to loop loop to loop loop to loop loop to loop loop to loop loop to loop.
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ABC -- quit rubbin' it in bro! hahaha.. I'm not hating though -- I'm so glad you're keepin' on keepin' on.....
I've read back over even more of this thread and it's like people don't freakin listen.... VMM has explained why there are still people that haven't been squared away with. The final M in his name doesn't stand for magician... He can't wave a magic pipe and *poof* mountains of crystal appear before thee....
If he used the rest of his product to fill orders that leaves him where? With no product and even more outstanding orders.
If he uses the product he has left and sells it... where does that leave him? TADA! With even MORE cash... to get an ever BIGGER mountain that can take care of ALL of the orders. (See where I'm going with this folks?)
So... lets think this out like a word problem for a second.... once he gets that bigger mountain of crystal and can finally hand it out like Willy Wonka does bars of chocolate (I want a bean feast!) .... who does he start with? The one who called him an ass and a thief and kicked and scream for their goose to lay the golden egg? No. That little fuck gets sent down a chute and incenerated...... Or does he start with little Charlie who was nice and gave back the everlasting gobstopper (i.e. was patient and not an ass?) ..... I think you can figure out the answer boys and girls.
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Almost 2 months now, still haven't received anything, he also didn't reply to my last message. Well we'll just keep on waiting...
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just had the weekend of my life on vmm's fire power shit, it never fails to hit me like a ton of bricks :), normally i order 0.5g's but cos of delays i got a gram in one go, :) and i can say from now on im ordering grams not halfs,
super gear vmm, top man :)
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Finally received it, after a month and a half! Aaah...
Not overweight tho, but all that matters is I got it.
I didn't get the "I can't find the fucking dope" packaging I used to keep hearing about, but it was secure enough.
Snorted a bit, I'm feeling fine... Thanks vmm!
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Vortexmilkman :Can i hope so see my 16 gram Australian order any time soon? Feels like i am the only one who hasn't got what they paid for :(
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To all those waiting and/or hating and having their doubts: I speak from experience when I say patience is a virtue with this vendor. It's been a while since I've dealt with him, the last being that shit storm that started in mid/early March, but he did come through for me (and I waited a long time, mine was among the first to go missing I believe). I have received 3 of 4 orders over a 6-8 week period all within 3 days of being marked 'in transit', and the 4th order was when everything went to hell but I did eventually receive, which I found un-fucking-believable given the propensity of some (ahem, Tony76) to take the money and run. VortexMilkMan, while at times slow, is honest, and honesty is something that is seriously lacking both inside and outside of SR. Give the man some time, don't blow his shit up with PM's and don't plan to order and be tweaking by the weekend. If you're willing to wait a little bit of time you'll be rewarded with some of the lowest priced gear on SR. If you're impatient, cancel your order, get your refund, bitch and moan, whatever, it's not going to change a thing. Dude's legit though.
Vortex - glad to see you've been reinstated and glad to see the half g's back up. I hope your operation is back running smoothly and can't wait to see your '84' rating go back up to '99' or whatever it was pre-April. Your shit's pretty good and your prices are fucking excellent. Thanks for the service you provide to the community and thank you for your honesty.
Before I'm attacked by someone saying it's dishonest to say you've shipped something when you haven't, ponder this, though it's just a theory: VMM had people who worked for him, I believe these were the people who fucked him over. Lets call them employees. Let's say VMM sits at home all day at his scale weighing and bagging shit while one of his employee makes runs to the PO. The employee returns, says order #XXXX just shipped, VMM marks it as shipped, but in reality the employee pocketed the goods to either use himself or resell. Regardless, as far as VMM knew, he was being honest - he though your package had been shipped. In my head that's what I imagine went down. Dude admitted to loosing $1000's in product having to re-up and ship out at least a months worth of orders to people who never received. Personally, I probably would have walked away; VMM did not. Perhaps he's some old Clint Eastwood style badass who won't have his name drug through the muck, perhaps he just really likes his handle and didn't want to use another - I don't know his reasoning. It takes time to make money back, and it takes money to make money, so don't jump dude's case if he's listing product and you still haven't received something from however long ago. Eventually you'll get your shit.
Thanks again for being a honest guy, at least in our dealings, VMM. Keep on keeping on bro.
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To all those waiting and/or hating and having their doubts: I speak from experience when I say patience is a virtue with this vendor. It's been a while since I've dealt with him, the last being that shit storm that started in mid/early March, but he did come through for me (and I waited a long time, mine was among the first to go missing I believe). I have received 3 of 4 orders over a 6-8 week period all within 3 days of being marked 'in transit', and the 4th order was when everything went to hell but I did eventually receive, which I found un-fucking-believable given the propensity of some (ahem, Tony76) to take the money and run. VortexMilkMan, while at times slow, is honest, and honesty is something that is seriously lacking both inside and outside of SR. Give the man some time, don't blow his shit up with PM's and don't plan to order and be tweaking by the weekend. If you're willing to wait a little bit of time you'll be rewarded with some of the lowest priced gear on SR. If you're impatient, cancel your order, get your refund, bitch and moan, whatever, it's not going to change a thing. Dude's legit though.
Vortex - glad to see you've been reinstated and glad to see the half g's back up. I hope your operation is back running smoothly and can't wait to see your '84' rating go back up to '99' or whatever it was pre-April. Your shit's pretty good and your prices are fucking excellent. Thanks for the service you provide to the community and thank you for your honesty.
Before I'm attacked by someone saying it's dishonest to say you've shipped something when you haven't, ponder this, though it's just a theory: VMM had people who worked for him, I believe these were the people who fucked him over. Lets call them employees. Let's say VMM sits at home all day at his scale weighing and bagging shit while one of his employee makes runs to the PO. The employee returns, says order #XXXX just shipped, VMM marks it as shipped, but in reality the employee pocketed the goods to either use himself or resell. Regardless, as far as VMM knew, he was being honest - he though your package had been shipped. In my head that's what I imagine went down. Dude admitted to loosing $1000's in product having to re-up and ship out at least a months worth of orders to people who never received. Personally, I probably would have walked away; VMM did not. Perhaps he's some old Clint Eastwood style badass who won't have his name drug through the muck, perhaps he just really likes his handle and didn't want to use another - I don't know his reasoning. It takes time to make money back, and it takes money to make money, so don't jump dude's case if he's listing product and you still haven't received something from however long ago. Eventually you'll get your shit.
Thanks again for being a honest guy, at least in our dealings, VMM. Keep on keeping on bro.
Stop chocking on his cock
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Glad to hear you received arguekitty
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I stood up for VMM and his honesty and what do you know, I got .7 grams of rock-salt-consistency crystal from him on a .25 gram purchase! I must say i'm happy with quality AND quantity. Good to be able to trust someone on an annonomys network. c:
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The fact that i remain here is the real testament....
....to the overwhelming nativity and stupidity of those that give you props for doing what you should be doing. Yey... let's celebrate how fan-fucking-tastic VMM is for taking our money, holding it for weeks, then calling a couple of you a bitchs for complaining.
Where are my groupies ,fukthis, and vmmfyu and the rest of the hardy boys?
At this point, if an individual does biz with VMM, they have little room for complaint - 90 pages should provide sufficient warning.
I seriously cannot believe how dumb some of these people are.
V
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VMM was very slow with my last order, 2.5 weeks. Product decent though.
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The fact that i remain here is the real testament....
....to the overwhelming nativity and stupidity of those that give you props for doing what you should be doing. Yey... let's celebrate how fan-fucking-tastic VMM is for taking our money, holding it for weeks, then calling a couple of you a bitchs for complaining.
Where are my groupies ,fukthis, and vmmfyu and the rest of the hardy boys?
At this point, if an individual does biz with VMM, they have little room for complaint - 90 pages should provide sufficient warning.
I seriously cannot believe how dumb some of these people are.
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He told us why he couldn't do what "he should be doing" And his non-fiendish customers believed him because nobody invests money they can't stand to lose on the SR unless their an addict and because they have worked with him before and knew he wasn't a bullshitter. I had faith and threw the thought in the back of my head and ended up finding a surprise today, 0.7 grams of crystal from a 25$ purchase and waiting a month does suck if your actually WAITING.... But i have a life and was able to forget about that shit and not worry or complain all over the threads.
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Thank you all ganjabeliever for your support.
I am continuing to bounce back.
Thanks Fuk_this for your overwhelming support, my #1 fan
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Stop chocking on his cock
I praise a member of the criminal drug underworld for his integrity and suddenly I'm "chocking on his cock". Fair enough.
....to the overwhelming nativity (...)
I wish I had an image to post of the scene of the birth of Christ - Jurassic Park style. That would be one overwhelming nativity.
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you a bitchs
English must not be your native language. If you find yourself struggling with grammatical structure and the plural form of words just PM me and I'll gladly help. I know English is difficult for non-native speakers as there are so many irregular verbs and there are no definite 'rules' that can be followed with regards to grammar or pronunciation. Fortunately in your case, the latter is not an issue as this is the internet and I'll never have to decipher what it is you're trying to say through whatever accent it is you're smothering it with. Cheerio.
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What happened to VMM's products he had up, I stupidly ordered 1/2gram off him and finalized early.
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Why do cunts keep starting new accounts just to post shit on forums? Grow some balls.
If you place an order, you should receive what you ordered..? Isnt that how is works?
Finalising early is a choice you make. Doesn't make you stupid.
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I know Fe is a choice I have faith in VMM, was just surprised that his listings were up for only a short time, but maybe now he is trying not to get in over his head like last time. Thanks and I will look into growing some balls, good idea
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I almost miss habitually checking up on this thread when I was still waiting for my order. It'd be the only thread I checked, pretty much. I wanted to see updates on who received, who didn't, if VMM chimed in, etc. Ahhh good times. lol. The product was good stuff, and definitely overweight although I have no scale.. It was probably close to .8-or even 1g! Because no way does a half gram [locally; and it's good too] lasts me as long as VMM's did. Almost a week+.
Then when I finally went to sleep I remember getting crazy sleep paralysis / lucid dreams, always awesome. It's definitely one of the positive things to coming down/recovering off meth for me. Idk if this happens to everyone, but does happen occasionally to me.
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I almost miss habitually checking up on this thread when I was still waiting for my order. It'd be the only thread I checked, pretty much. I wanted to see updates on who received, who didn't, if VMM chimed in, etc. Ahhh good times. lol. The product was good stuff, and definitely overweight although I have no scale.. It was probably close to .8-or even 1g! Because no way does a half gram [locally; and it's good too] lasts me as long as VMM's did. Almost a week+.
Then when I finally went to sleep I remember getting crazy sleep paralysis / lucid dreams, always awesome. It's definitely one of the positive things to coming down/recovering off meth for me. Idk if this happens to everyone, but does happen occasionally to me.
Oh man, you like getting sleep paralysis?! That shit is pretty scary dude, I don't know if I would say that it is enjoyable hehe
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Vortexmilkman 's seller account was suspended again.
vortexmilkman, When you are read this, i want you to do something for me. I want you to send something! Whatever meth you have at the moment i need a show of good faith from you. only 4 or 5 grams? i am fine with that. i can sell that amount locally and break even. You know how bad it feels to be stolen from, so you know how i am feeling! When i see other customers getting twice, sometimes 3 times what they had ordered its like your rubbing salt in the wound. Why do i get none while every one else gets extra for free. It feels like you have bought gear with my money then divided it up among every one else except me. I believe you when you say you are loosing money, and you had product stolen, but if you have enough to give everyone freebies then you have enough to give me some of what i paid for 2 months ago!
Make an envelope out to the address i have supplied on SR, fill it with enough meth for me to break even and post it. That is all i ask.
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I almost miss habitually checking up on this thread when I was still waiting for my order. It'd be the only thread I checked, pretty much. I wanted to see updates on who received, who didn't, if VMM chimed in, etc. Ahhh good times. lol. The product was good stuff, and definitely overweight although I have no scale.. It was probably close to .8-or even 1g! Because no way does a half gram [locally; and it's good too] lasts me as long as VMM's did. Almost a week+.
Then when I finally went to sleep I remember getting crazy sleep paralysis / lucid dreams, always awesome. It's definitely one of the positive things to coming down/recovering off meth for me. Idk if this happens to everyone, but does happen occasionally to me.
Oh man, you like getting sleep paralysis?! That shit is pretty scary dude, I don't know if I would say that it is enjoyable hehe
Naw the shit is pretty intense dude. But after I had a spontaneous lucid dream one night years ago, I wanted to make it happen again it was so fuckin crazy. So I researched and found some things saying you can use sleep paralysis to trigger lucid dreams / Out of body experiences. The shit is scary though, but I try to be calm. It's happened so much now either randomly here and there or when I'm coming down off of a meth binge that I kinda look forward to it now to trigger lucid dreams. My body will start buzzing, vibrating next thing I know I'm in a dream where I'm crawling on the walls like Spidey or flying out my window in complete awe. Shit feels so real man. Love that shit.
lol, shit might sound stupid to someone who never experienced it, but man, it's amazing.
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Vortexmilkman 's seller account was suspended again.
vortexmilkman, When you are read this, i want you to do something for me. I want you to send something! Whatever meth you have at the moment i need a show of good faith from you. only 4 or 5 grams? i am fine with that. i can sell that amount locally and break even. You know how bad it feels to be stolen from, so you know how i am feeling! When i see other customers getting twice, sometimes 3 times what they had ordered its like your rubbing salt in the wound. Why do i get none while every one else gets extra for free. It feels like you have bought gear with my money then divided it up among every one else except me. I believe you when you say you are loosing money, and you had product stolen, but if you have enough to give everyone freebies then you have enough to give me some of what i paid for 2 months ago!
Make an envelope out to the address i have supplied on SR, fill it with enough meth for me to break even and post it. That is all i ask.
Suspended again, what for now. It is shit hearing everyone else saying all the extra points they were getting on their orders when your still waiting, you would think it would be logical to give the correct amount and supply more people properly than make some super happy and shaft others.
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I almost miss habitually checking up on this thread when I was still waiting for my order. It'd be the only thread I checked, pretty much. I wanted to see updates on who received, who didn't, if VMM chimed in, etc. Ahhh good times. lol.
Haha I know exactly what you mean. I'd run home from work on break with barely just enough time to load the SR forums and check and see what was happening. It was an addiction in of itself.
Back when I received I should have thrown it on the scale just out of principle because I can not honestly say it was not overweight but my .50g looked to be the same size as all the other .50g's I've seen/received. It may have been a little heavy, but it wasn't double or triple the amount ordered. I'm happy though as I got what I paid for.
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67 days since order, 60 since finalizing early, and 17 since Vortex said he had shipped most recently but still no package. As I haven't given up hope so far, it seems silly to now but I am no longer expecting anything to arrive anytime soon. I hope I am proven wrong tomorrow ;)
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dont think hes been suspended again, i thought he was just on vacation???
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May 18th, .....official UPDATE :
RR, Old School, and a few others.......you can all be proud of yourself.
Give yourself a big pat on the fucking back.
You just cost everyone their pending orders.
Whoever is from England and complained to SR Admins about me having my account reactivated and accepting new orders last week just shot themselves in the foot.
WHY.......would someone complain AGAIN after its been widely noted that there are just a few people left out of the dozens who were left in the rain when my incident last month occurred.
Before any of you fucks comes and asks some stupid shit like "WHY DIDNT YOU SEND METH TO EVERYONE INSTEAD OF JUST SOME"
Well EINSTEIN...if Johnny has 5 apples on him but 50 assholes are demaning apples from him......WHERE THE FUCK is Johnny getting 45 more apples from....? Especially if he had hundreds of apples prior to losing everything and having to re-buy at a second loss product to appease everyone.
Most others would have not even sent one pending order but ran off......and Im thinking thats what I should have done in the first place....now Im stuck with a bit of meth I cant even do anything with......hell the amount I have on hand is barely enough for "OLDSCHOOL".....so if i gave "OLDSCHOOL" his order of nearly 20 grams....... you can bet your ass no one else will receive.
So....here I am flipping what little meth I have left to make it flip into more so then everyone is squared up...but oh no....Admins treat me like Bin Laden, there is no more friendly tone of the site....its overrun by complainers and sabotaged attacks from junkies.
If I knew this would happen I would not have made good on any orders after the April incident, I would have just left....
so now everythings fucked.......Until I get seller status back and able to flip another 2 ounces to generate profits to cover all of your complaining, ungrateful asses, you can kiss your pending orders goodbye.
I am done here, looks like Im damned if I do, and damned if I dont.
I dont owe anything to any of you and frankly, this is a horrible way to go out, but fuck it......im financially fucked from the fucking dmins suspending me again.
So if this is how im treated, why bother?
Ive sold mad weight on here, and the minute a junkie fuck complains everything comes to a halt?
Well you all just fucked yourself with all your whining....now no one gets shit...hell im stuck with no money and no seller status......
THANKS ALOT!
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sorry about your situation VMM. i know we havent done business yet. but i have kept up with the news lately. and personally i think its honorable that you didnt just close your account unn off and say fuck it or just make a new account.. (if you havent done so already :D )
to the person that tattle-taled to mommy and daddy, its just wrong to kick a man when hes down. but i dont know what the story is between you and this customer .. but i will assume you kept him in the loop ? regardless i think your a stand up guy, hope that things will start looking up for you soon...
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The reason you think he's a "stand up guy" is that you never ordered from him, and thus never gave him the opportunity to lie through his teeth (or fingers, as it were) to you. Good riddance, I say.
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May 18th, .....official UPDATE :
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I dont owe anything to any of you and frankly, this is a horrible way to go out, but fuck it......im financially fucked from the fucking dmins suspending me again.
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THANKS ALOT!
Time to start going to church, jerk! I'll write your epitaph:
R.I.P.
VortexMilkScam, Trusted Vendor of high quality Excuses
2012 - 2012
Fuck off and die, asshole.
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wow vortex man, why bring me in to it? i supported you to the max and got my order as far as i was concerned we here cool, why would i complain? i will be mailing them to tell em to put you back on
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Because RR, its either you or Oldschool or another UK client....and theres only like 4 UK outstanding clients....and the one SR admins keep quoting me on is 90% sure either oldschool or RR that triggerred this.
Alls I know is that I got suspended because someone was pissed that I got my account UNSUSPENDED just 10 days ago....and wanted me banned again till I rectify orders.
Talk about stupid.
Hell, it prolly could be "FUKTHIS" in his many forms he takes on.........you know he has so much time on his hands he prolly made it look like 100 people complaining when its him trolling to admins.
funny shit
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well mate it wasnt me mate and i mailed them saying put you back on i will inbox you okay!
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@ harpua maybe he lied and didnt keep ppl updated as he should but at least he was here and trying to rectify the orders.... granted he could have sent 10-20% of cusomers orders to them just as a measure of trust to show hes trying to work shit out.. again i dont know the details.. but talking trash to him isnt gonna encourage him to make things right . will do quite the opposite... he doesnt have to fix anything.. but it seemed he made an effort.. but someone had a bone to pick with him .. complained to SR and screwed the rest of the ppl that didnt get theirs? and now ppl still want him gone? thats messed up for the folks that didnt get theirs .. really messed up
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@DigitalDong:
Dude.....i have been sending orders that were due to well over 20%....look at all the pages of people receiving and some even reporting overweight product.
When did I lie?
I publicly announced several times right in the beginning of April shit went down and has affected me till now.
Mainly cuz Ive been making good on everyone who has ordered.
there are far more who have received who arent reporting here as people only come here to complain.....rarely to post that they got it.....but somehow im lying and not sending ?
shit if i didnt send any orders that were due after some of my ex-associates turned on me and in turn stole product I would have money..but i dont cuz ive been sending orders man.
Lots of orders werent ewven from listings, it was private deals......lots of others not even on SR are affected...the story is deeper than you or anyone knows.
thats why i find it so funny now im getting yelled at by the very same people im trying to make amends with
Shit happenned and I let everyone know......but somehow im lying.
I just dont give a fuck anymore.
To all who have orders and finalized orders you were expecting, write that shit off, because Im CANNOT do anything about it unless I have my seller status back...thats the only way im generating profits to buy back the amount of product necessary......i feel like a broken record already...im tired of explaining myself.
if you got something to say, go fuck yourself, cuz the Milkman tired of fighting junkie clients off his back and now admins....
i can only do so much, and if even the admins are refusing me to operate and handle everything as it was being handled. then peace to all
*waiting for trolls like harpua and fuk_this to add stupid comments that do nothing but get off on the fact that they are "chastising" me.....if anyone cared about rectifying things and good biz, then we wouldnt have flame wars ....so immature on here...
you guys fucked yourselves on this one with complaining about me getting my seller status back..
well now you get what you want....and you get nothing for that
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who ever caused this again was bang out of order, he was never ever going to scam you, what more does he have to to convince people that he aint a scammer,
he delivered for me just fine in the end and he has my support
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im not calling you liar VMM nor trying to diss you or anyone else here.. i just want this to end well for everyone here.. but if people want to either shoot themselves in the foot OR ruin it for the people who are missing orders then thats on them and you did all you can do.
and the fact the VMM is stressing out over this should be another clue to you that least he gives a fuck about the situation.... but no one seems to see that part
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For the record, I'd long since stopped giving a shit what vmm does until he decided to pop into my thread about heisenburg and attack me out of the blue.
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Yea cuz ur bipolar....you made a thread ( which I suspect is a covert homosexual advance.....watch out Heis) .....praising this vendor, that not more than 24 hours after ripping him a new one....you exhibit Abandoned Child Syndrome issues and was most likely spoiled as a kid.
Wake up "harpua"......wake the fuck up....its not all about you....i just poped in to remind you that before you get your face done in by someone in the streets.
with your attitude im surprised you're even alive......or do you only act like a cunt behind tor and a computer?
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Obsessive much?
And I'd be interested to see this post where I was "ripping him a new one." Link?
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hey VMM, can you pm me on silk rd thanks
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All I can say is VMM never fucked me over one bit. A bit of a delay, but who gives a shit. It was actually beneficial for me to receive it late, I had my birthday at the time I ordered, and had I received the product at anytime then, it probably would've fucked up the fun I had later that month and early April. A sort of blessing in disguise. Then I received my product exactly one month after my birthday, now talk about timing and fate and all that shit lol, or maybe I'm just looking too into things but regardless, everything actually worked out perfect in the end for me for real.
With that said, I really do hope he gets reinstated on SR. Shit he could've pulled a Tony on everyone. And even with what Tony did, everyone who was scammed by him is praising the guy like "At least he was charming and smart about it" [saw a thread regarding Tony's scam and ppl saying that shit lol, like, wtf] but he's still here and did make up to those with what he had on hand. Idk I just really appreciate being one who received their order and am really empathizing with the dude.
All the best Vortex.
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Time to start going to church, jerk! I'll write your epitaph:
R.I.P.
VortexMilkScam, Trusted Vendor of high quality Excuses
2012 - 2012
Fuck off and die, asshole.
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+1 but low quality excuses.
I join in and wish him death lol ;D
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Vortexmilkman :
First of all i have never messaged SR admin to suspend your account, in fact if you ever read my messages to you on site i mention i was incredibly happy you had the account back. Plus i am not a UK orders.
Secondly i made my post after you had been suspended again. SR doesn't care if people who FE don't get there product. ONLY escrow orders durr...
Thirdly all i was asking was for a small part of my order, just enough for me to break even.
you have five apples, and you owe 50 apples, it would make more sense to cut each apple into 10 pieces. What you did was give your 5 apples to 3 people and then told rest to get fucked.
Perhaps after Silk Road suspended you the first time for threatening to give peoples addresses to police, you decided "fuck this place" I will do a huge fire sale where everyone finalizes early. When people start complaining they don't get what they bought i will make it seem like its their fault.
If you really wanted to make good on your existing orders you would have raised your prices to correct market value when you were re-activated as a seller.
To accuse me for dobbing you in is a dog act! i have been buying off you for over a year before this. Why else would i have finalized early on a $1500 order to a stranger over an anonymous network. Check yourself son.
Fourth : I hold no grudge over drug money, ever. Peace be with you.
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Would the people who have ordered just recently have gotten shipped to right away or would they have been bumped to the back of the list? I can understand why silk road admin would not approve if they were being bumped back but if not than that's bullshit as it does appear the only way for you to make your money to ship out my order.
No use crying over spilled meth.
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Vortexmilkman,
I've never been a customer of yours. Hell, I haven't even used meth before. I just wanted to chime in say that I'm sorry shit went south on you man. It's bad enough when things go bad in real life, but add in the douchebaggery of self-righteous, anonymous users on this site and it turns into a clusterfuck in no time.
I wish you good luck in getting your affairs in order and hope you can make good on any outstanding orders you have on here. Cheers!
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Vortexmilkman,
I've never been a customer of yours. Hell, I haven't even used meth before. I just wanted to chime in say that I'm sorry shit went south on you man. It's bad enough when things go bad in real life, but add in the douchebaggery of self-righteous, anonymous users on this site and it turns into a clusterfuck in no time.
I wish you good luck in getting your affairs in order and hope you can make good on any outstanding orders you have on here. Cheers!
And you are clearly stupid as fuck.
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Vortexmilkman,
I've never been a customer of yours. Hell, I haven't even used meth before. I just wanted to chime in say that I'm sorry shit went south on you man. It's bad enough when things go bad in real life, but add in the douchebaggery of self-righteous, anonymous users on this site and it turns into a clusterfuck in no time.
I wish you good luck in getting your affairs in order and hope you can make good on any outstanding orders you have on here. Cheers!
And you are clearly stupid as fuck.
I rarely ding someone's karma, but I'll be man enough to admit when I do. Clearly, you are unnecessarily rude and and arrogant as fuck.
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damn u go away for a few days and this is what goes down. Vmm was making a Twak Come back it seemed after the downfall... . HE always treated me well. product on spot. sucks to see this
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@DigitalDong:
To all who have orders and finalized orders you were expecting, write that shit off, because Im CANNOT do anything about it unless I have my seller status back...thats the only way im generating profits to buy back the amount of product necessary......i feel like a broken record already...im tired of explaining myself.
i can only do so much, and if even the admins are refusing me to operate and handle everything as it was being handled. then peace to all
*waiting for trolls like harpua and fuk_this to add stupid comments that do nothing but get off on the fact that they are "chastising" me.....
Okay, hope you take this as intended. I might not like you, but now, I respect you. While I stand by all my earlier statements at the time they were written, I'm obligated to say that even the greatest of all skeptic has watched, like a fucking soap opera, that you've made a serious effort.
Now, like you I could have continued life into blissful perpetuity and cared less about what happens to you, but morally and ethically, I need to follow up my prediction with thoughtful reflection - or the result of it. My finger are trembling at the thought of typing this..... but I might have been wrong. Typically, I follow with "but, I doubt it" regardless of the truth. This, however, is anonymous, and in reality, I am not a dick nor a rocked out tweaker - whatever the nomenclature may be. I'm obligated. To those that wrote and encouraged my verbally destruction, you trusted my judgment then, so you should trust it now. The facts have changed.
With this in mind coupled with the strong possibility I made your life harder than necessary, I have to say ..... okay..... here... it ..... comes.... I'M SORRY! I still think you did some fucked up shit, but an objective analysis could result in no other outcome. You could have left, and started under another name. If fact, I should call you stupid for not doing so. So in whatever fucked up world you live, it cannot be much different than my wonderful life because actions defines integrity, not words. You did more than I would have, in all honesty. To me, this means something. Okay enough of the sappy man love bullshit. I hope you get your sellers account better, and run you operation like a serious business because with this level of integrity, you should be making bank. If not, I'll tell you how.
You did cost me 15 grand though, so calling you a fucking asshole bothers me little. However, as written earlier, I should have had a contingency plan in place, and thus, fault was not completely attributable to you. What moron would rely on a drug dealer, with such an important project hanging in the balance?
With that, fuk_this is retired. Again, even though it makes me sick and borderline homosexual, I'm sorry.
Good luck, fucker.
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Hell, it prolly could be "FUKTHIS" in his many forms he takes on.........you know he has so much time on his hands he prolly made it look like 100 people complaining when its him trolling to admins.
Nope, in reality, I was the only fuck this, the others are real. I prefer to handle my shit face to face, so making multiple accounts was beyond the scope of my childishness.
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@DigitalDong:
To all who have orders and finalized orders you were expecting, write that shit off, because Im CANNOT do anything about it unless I have my seller status back...thats the only way im generating profits to buy back the amount of product necessary......i feel like a broken record already...im tired of explaining myself.
i can only do so much, and if even the admins are refusing me to operate and handle everything as it was being handled. then peace to all
*waiting for trolls like harpua and fuk_this to add stupid comments that do nothing but get off on the fact that they are "chastising" me.....
Okay, hope you take this as intended. I might not like you, but now, I respect you. While I stand by all my earlier statements at the time they were written, I'm obligated to say that even the greatest of all skeptic has watched, like a fucking soap opera, that you've made a serious effort.
Now, like you I could have continued life into blissful perpetuity and cared less about what happens to you, but morally and ethically, I need to follow up my prediction with thoughtful reflection - or the result of it. My finger are trembling at the thought of typing this..... but I might have been wrong. Typically, I follow with "but, I doubt it" regardless of the truth. This, however, is anonymous, and in reality, I am not a dick nor a rocked out tweaker - whatever the nomenclature may be. I'm obligated. To those that wrote and encouraged my verbally destruction, you trusted my judgment then, so you should trust it now. The facts have changed.
With this in mind coupled with the strong possibility I made your life harder than necessary, I have to say ..... okay..... here... it ..... comes.... I'M SORRY! I still think you did some fucked up shit, but an objective analysis could result in no other outcome. You could have left, and started under another name. If fact, I should call you stupid for not doing so. So in whatever fucked up world you live, it cannot be much different than my wonderful life because actions defines integrity, not words. You did more than I would have, in all honesty. To me, this means something. Okay enough of the sappy man love bullshit. I hope you get your sellers account better, and run you operation like a serious business because with this level of integrity, you should be making bank. If not, I'll tell you how.
You did cost me 15 grand though, so calling you a fucking asshole bothers me little. However, as written earlier, I should have had a contingency plan in place, and thus, fault was not completely attributable to you. What moron would rely on a drug dealer, with such an important project hanging in the balance?
With that, fuk_this is retired. Again, even though it makes me sick and borderline homosexual, I'm sorry.
Good luck, fucker.
wow respect for saying sorry, i also agree vmm has made a big effort and should have his sellers status put back on,
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@DigitalDong:
To all who have orders and finalized orders you were expecting, write that shit off, because Im CANNOT do anything about it unless I have my seller status back...thats the only way im generating profits to buy back the amount of product necessary......i feel like a broken record already...im tired of explaining myself.
i can only do so much, and if even the admins are refusing me to operate and handle everything as it was being handled. then peace to all
*waiting for trolls like harpua and fuk_this to add stupid comments that do nothing but get off on the fact that they are "chastising" me.....
Okay, hope you take this as intended. I might not like you, but now, I respect you. While I stand by all my earlier statements at the time they were written, I'm obligated to say that even the greatest of all skeptic has watched, like a fucking soap opera, that you've made a serious effort.
Now, like you I could have continued life into blissful perpetuity and cared less about what happens to you, but morally and ethically, I need to follow up my prediction with thoughtful reflection - or the result of it. My finger are trembling at the thought of typing this..... but I might have been wrong. Typically, I follow with "but, I doubt it" regardless of the truth. This, however, is anonymous, and in reality, I am not a dick nor a rocked out tweaker - whatever the nomenclature may be. I'm obligated. To those that wrote and encouraged my verbally destruction, you trusted my judgment then, so you should trust it now. The facts have changed.
With this in mind coupled with the strong possibility I made your life harder than necessary, I have to say ..... okay..... here... it ..... comes.... I'M SORRY! I still think you did some fucked up shit, but an objective analysis could result in no other outcome. You could have left, and started under another name. If fact, I should call you stupid for not doing so. So in whatever fucked up world you live, it cannot be much different than my wonderful life because actions defines integrity, not words. You did more than I would have, in all honesty. To me, this means something. Okay enough of the sappy man love bullshit. I hope you get your sellers account better, and run you operation like a serious business because with this level of integrity, you should be making bank. If not, I'll tell you how.
You did cost me 15 grand though, so calling you a fucking asshole bothers me little. However, as written earlier, I should have had a contingency plan in place, and thus, fault was not completely attributable to you. What moron would rely on a drug dealer, with such an important project hanging in the balance?
With that, fuk_this is retired. Again, even though it makes me sick and borderline homosexual, I'm sorry.
Good luck, fucker.
Yeah, respect for a rational, thought out, sincere apology. VMM tried to make amends, and it was fucking obvious. He was fighting against the odds of dealing with his real life shit, and he continued to post here in spite of an army of enraged trolls posting so venomously that they could have created a meme showcased in Encyclopedia Dramatica. He couldn't have had the backbone and wherewithal for that unless he possessed a great deal of pride and integrity...
I respect the dude for trying.
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@ fuck this .. you are out 15k from VMM? did i understand that correctly?
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From some pages back, fuck at least now I know what my words taste like...
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He was my second ever meth purchase on the Road and to date, he's also the most recent (that I've received ;)) I hate to speculate about anything, especially here, so I won't. I will say that if VMM never vends again on Silk Road, I'll say to myself as I read the proof on my screen, "Well, I'll be damned..."
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"Well, I'll be damned."
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It takes a big man to apologize and given the anonymity of this place it shows your integrity!
VMM has integrity! He is a person of his word! And I really think SR should reconsider the suspension order against him! He has ALWAYS made good even if it does take a whileeeee, and as Fuk this rightfully pointed out, vmm could have just disappeared and restarted a new vendor account.(much like that cunt face tony "lick my smelly arse crack you worthless piece on cheese on the end of my cock" (sorry scamming cunts piss me off) but VMM stood up and tried to regain the trust of the community.
I understand feeling ripped off sucks balls, but if you look at the situation honestly, he has always tried and he always faced the mob and not hid away. I am also owed product but the one attribute he excels in, is his communication. I communicate with vmm with respect and in return he reciprocates. Yes VMM can be a wee bit temperamental at times ::) but consider the pressure he is under and the abuse he cops, and you can (personally I can) understand his "fuck it all" attitude!
VMM if you are reading this as I have told you many times. Focus on the 95% and don't get caught up with that 5% negative customers.
DPR if I have faith like others and I have a lottttt of $$$ on the line, please lift the suspension and allow vmm to trade out of his predicament! I am willing to put a "bond" down for him if thats what is needed. Believe it or not SR needs to embrace integrity, NOT discourage it!
Cheers
hoffa
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I wrote this b4 and do again, It says a lot that VMM came back under the same ven acct and to tried to make things right. For that fact alone you should have you ven status. But damn, this status going up and down isn't helping. Not everyone comes to the forum to find out what is going on.
VMM - like hoffa wrote, "Focus on the 95% and don't get caught up with that 5% negative customers." and just let it roll of your back. When you respond you'll only just get more pissed off. Anyways the 95% put stock in your actions not your words, and for god's sake help out fuck_this.
fuck_this - Damn brother, 15k. Your a bigger man than me. I don't even want to think of how I would react in that situation.
-------------- please don't start posting the amount you lost Any post that comes after this will just look like you're fishing for sympathy. --------------
Be safe
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I did not lose 15K because of VMM. Once I thought about it, seriously thought about it, and admitted to myself that I made one of the worst decisions ever (except the "fat girl" incident which my buddies refuse to let die). Not meant to be cliche, but the fucking buck stops with me. If I chose to allow a drug dealer with a shady past dictate life changing decisions, I need to step back a reevaluate my priorities. I call this area of life bizzaro world, in reality, it's the mental battle I struggle to win each day; that is, controlling my mind.
The immediate result was a 15K loss, but the long term effect are much greater. This won't come out right, but fuck it, my reputation is not really important. Once you understand the game of life and have sociopathic tendencies like myself, money become the least important part. It's about the competition, and testing your mental and physical boundaries. No drug will ever match the rush I get from breaking this limitations. Money is just a way to keep score.
Anyhow, I started writing this response about 4 hours ago until I realized that I was so high I had written 24 pages of single spaced nonsense. As my "apology" post demonstrates, I'm not working at 100% mental capacity. Jesus, if someone can understand my true reasoning for writing that grammatical disaster zone, they are a better man than me.
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My very first order was with VMM after 2 month waiting I thought I got scammed as VMM says he send it and was not answering my message
I stayed away from SR for few weeks an dwhen I got there what a nice surprise, a message(bulk reply not personal) from VMM asking me to resend my info cause he had issues.
I was so glad to see that he was actually getting in contact and willing to fill his order and apologies.
And just when things seems to get right SR suspend his account...plz for the good of the customers who are money down let him back...
a disapointed customer
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Personally I have been quiet and sitting on the sidelines watching this show both wiht hope and dismay. VMM has really busted his ass to salvage this SNAFU and has faced nothing but vitriol and hate. I totally respect hime for not pulling stakes at the first bump and simply re creating himself. No he took it like a man with pride and tried to do right. It is totally wrong to pull the rug out from under him now. He communicated well and often with me through out even though I had my tweaker meltdown quite awhile ago and spouted BS. I was just trying to get coins together to place an order with him just on faith and the understanding it would help the cause. SR should work with him here and not listen to the shit slingers looking to further pile on. This vendor has gone way above and beyond again and again to hang in there. Seems pretty extreme while everyone sees the effort he is making and the perfect explanation of the plan forward to let him list for a couple days and get big response then to shut it down. Stranding more buyers. SR get the fees either way I have learned painfully enough from any of these cancel transactions which does not help at all... Please at least let VMM complete the comeback. Hell with the new FE freeze time period in place anyways why not give it some time to evolve. I just dont get it and hell I waited just like everyone else here and while not thousands on the line not a small amount of cash either.
Peace and Good Vibes,,
Hilly
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admin need to read this thread cos it seems everyone agrees that vmm has put 100% effort in to solving the problem, and im sure if they fully understood the hole story they would give him his account back, i would love to see vortex rise again cos he really has earned my trust and respect, i have had to put my lastest order in else where, that 40btc that i would have spent with vortex, but i couldnt, just hope hes back up before my next order :)
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admin need to read this thread cos it seems everyone agrees that vmm has put 100% effort in to solving the problem, and im sure if they fully understood the hole story they would give him his account back, i would love to see vortex rise again cos he really has earned my trust and respect, i have had to put my lastest order in else where, that 40btc that i would have spent with vortex, but i couldnt, just hope hes back up before my next order :)
Yeah a lot effort but that's it.
Oh no, really? DubG? the great DubG has product taking 3 weeks to the UK?
Maybe DubG is really VMM....oh no only VMM scams people and orders take long right?
Lmaooooooo I DONT GIVE A FUCK no more.........now that im suspended again, I actually feel free, stress-free.....relaxed and not pressured by you cunts any longer.
Ciao.
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@ fuck this..
so you lost 15 k potentially? i mean whats that got to do with VMM? i am thoroughly confused here.. *scratches head*
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@ perrrey
you agree he puts in a lot of effort but then say "thats it"? so what else is required from someone at their job or place of profession?
maybe he does not have the best customer service but being a nice person isnt a requirement for vending here...
do you personally have outstanding order with him? did you lose form him in the past?
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@ fuck this..
so you lost 15 k potentially? i mean whats that got to do with VMM? i am thoroughly confused here.. *scratches head*
What it sounds like he's saying is that while he has lost 15k, at least so far, on a VMM order that never shipped, he ultimately holds himself responsible for putting all his eggs in one basket instead of responsibly diversifying his risk.
Course that's just my interpretation and dissemination of fuk_this' 15k reference that's for him to confirm or clarify. But if so it does make a ton more sense for him to work with VMM than hold grudges or he'll pretty much be forced to write that 15k off.
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Why can't they just start VMM account up again with all his old stats and feedback on but have it like a new seller account where there can be no FE and so on. One point to note out is that with VMM's feedback from what I could tell he didn't make the bad feedbacks disapear like how other vendors do. I wrote feedback for a vendor gave him5/5 the product was average but it wasn't claimed to be great, I wrote this but its not up there to see??? Does anyone else feel like this is like Ferris Bueller are there going to shirts printed SAVE VORTEXMILKMAN
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RING DING DONG Bitches! Tony's back
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@ perrrey
you agree he puts in a lot of effort but then say "thats it"? so what else is required from someone at their job or place of profession?
maybe he does not have the best customer service but being a nice person isnt a requirement for vending here...
do you personally have outstanding order with him? did you lose form him in the past?
I was trying to be sarcastic. I have seen some effort yes but after the shit he wrote here i lost all respect for him and that makes me hope that it won't turn around for him at all, I hope his SR career is over.
And yes, I had an order that I did not receive but that's fine now.
Cheers.
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@ perrrey
you agree he puts in a lot of effort but then say "thats it"? so what else is required from someone at their job or place of profession?
maybe he does not have the best customer service but being a nice person isnt a requirement for vending here...
do you personally have outstanding order with him? did you lose form him in the past?
I was trying to be sarcastic. I have seen some effort yes but after the shit he wrote here i lost all respect for him and that makes me hope that it won't turn around for him at all, I hope his SR career is over.
And yes, I had an order that I did not receive but that's fine now.
Cheers.
it sux getting screwed out of your hard earned cash
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It's been a while since I had truly yummy shard.
Hey VORTEXMILKMAN! But for a few assholes you turn us all out?
Make good on your orders man and we'll stick it out with you. PM those you owe orders to with your new SR handle after making good on those orders and you'll keep your customer base.
That's what you want, isn't it?
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It's been a while since I had truly yummy shard.
Hey VORTEXMILKMAN! But for a few assholes you turn us all out?
Make good on your orders man and we'll stick it out with you. PM those you owe orders to with your new SR handle after making good on those orders and you'll keep your customer base.
That's what you want, isn't it?
True that... If I got what I was owed, I'd purchase again and not have to beat the bushes for a new supply because I've been forsaken. I know its a lot of 'luck of the draw' but vmm's worst batch to me is still far better than some of what I've had lately.
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Hey V,
Could you please contact me at your next most convenient time?
Cheers man.
FB.
:)
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Has anyone wondered whether A FAIR FEW of the "newbie members" that post things such as: "thanx vmm....or finally got my order..." etc aren't just VMM himself trying to portray that he is coming good with his deliveries to suck MORE people in??
Just a thought...trying to make sense of the fact that I seem to be the only one that hasn't received.... sad face
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i received and know of a few others who are defo real people saying they got theres maybe your just further down the list
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Thanks RR for the response :)
I've noticed tonight that VMM's vendor account has been closed down by SR support??
My order was placed in early March, VMM has replied to my PM's occasionally, but
he spent wks stuffing me around with tx details etc...
Well, good to know that I'm over-thinking and that people r getting what they are owed!
Lets hope SR hasn't deterred him to the point of NO return this time round.
Cheers, :D
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Thanks RR for the response :)
I've noticed tonight that VMM's vendor account has been closed down by SR support??
My order was placed in early March, VMM has replied to my PM's occasionally, but
he spent wks stuffing me around with tx details etc...
Well, good to know that I'm over-thinking and that people r getting what they are owed!
Lets hope SR hasn't deterred him to the point of NO return this time round.
Cheers, :D
They did deter him to that point.
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Fuck.
He hasn't been online for 2 days.
Thanks for kicking him while he was down and on his way back up.
Thanks for ensuring I did lose my hard earned over all this.
I never received but for some reason, always believed..that I would receive my shit.
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Fuck.
He hasn't been online for 2 days.
Thanks for kicking him while he was down and on his way back up.
Thanks for ensuring I did lose my hard earned over all this.
I never received but for some reason, always believed..that I would receive my shit.
Bummer same here, I still have hope something might turn up in the letter box, but I think that might be wishful thinkin now :'(
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We were never getting our shit. He said he had 6 ounces stolen from him, but in this thread alone far more then that amount is owed. It was a classic "FE fire sale" scam. He was un suspended briefly where he continued his "fire sale" and was quickly suspended again because of continued scamming.
Think about it, no one received a reply to their PM until they posted on the forums, then he spewed out all a long list of cliche' lies and stall tactics. Had me fooled for ages, and still has many people convinced. The numbers don't lie, only the vortex cum guzzler man
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I dunno if it was or not. It seems the faith I put into him **[that he would follow through]** was wrongly placed. To make this great gesture to correct his mistakes and then to write that he is done because of a few negative posts? That really doesn't seem like he actually had the conviction to follow through. Just looking for an excuse to run and hide, like a BITCH. If I fuck up, I am determined to follow through and repair the damage no matter what anyone thinks. Otherwise, how can I call myself a man?
Be safe,
SC
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post below what vortex owes you and when u ordered im intrested to see
me 1/2g paid 17btc for it in january
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$1500 - 16 grams.
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$500 - 3.5g. Finalized around 8 weeks ago.
VMM replied to a PM a couple weeks ago saying he's let me know when he'd shipped my order.
Nothing after that.
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.5gram 12.5btc May
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I haven't received either. Multiple times VMM claimed he would attend to my order but nothing up to the present day! Waiting since mid March.
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Ordered an 8 ball on 15/05, just before his account got banned again. It arrived yesterday - same quality as always :D
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one gram at sale price in march.
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Ordered .25 for 32$ on March 13.
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.25 on March 12. Looks like were in the same boat Duffman :o
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$1500 - 16 grams.
orders like that are why you guys wont be getting any refunds. no way hes going to refund that order and if hes not going to refund that order might as well not refund any.
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.25 on March 12. Looks like were in the same boat Duffman :o
.5 special for 10 BTC, also on March 12. No reply to pm's, apart from two prefab responses.
That boat is getting rather full.
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My .5 is eleven days old with no response from VMM. I think he's gonzo.
Have you seen the count of sellers dwindle? Both meth and coke categories are barren. Where's TheCompaqny gone? Why are there no 1.0g listings? WTF?
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My .5 is eleven days old with no response from VMM. I think he's gonzo.
Have you seen the count of sellers dwindle? Both meth and coke categories are barren. Where's TheCompaqny gone? Why are there no 1.0g listings? WTF?
Yup. It seems like the established pros left have come to realize it's more convenient and profitable to ball in bulk. That way you only deal with serious buyers and you cut the number of them down to a select few, meaning fewer PM's to have to handle on a daily basis of paranoid buyers wanting minute by minute updates. I bet it really frees up time that's worth way more than the extra $50-$100 to break the shit up and deal with the more unfamiliar and thus scammer likely pool.
That's probably why smaller quantities sell for such a premium, because of the major headaches a vendor takes on when selling down to that level.
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Fuck.
He hasn't been online for 2 days.
Thanks for kicking him while he was down and on his way back up.
Thanks for ensuring I did lose my hard earned over all this.
I never received but for some reason, always believed..that I would receive my shit.
You are welcome.. But I do regret that I didn't kick him in the head on his way up as I would love to now. He stole money from me as well but in my eyes he is just a hustling junkie that can not be trusted and people like that should not be allowed to be vendors at SR imo.
Cheers
PERREY
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My .5 is eleven days old with no response from VMM. I think he's gonzo.
Have you seen the count of sellers dwindle? Both meth and coke categories are barren. Where's TheCompaqny gone? Why are there no 1.0g listings? WTF?
I just finished a .5 (all they had! [scratching my head here] available) and I had just decided to give up on The Road for meth because none of it was that - you know - sexually charged euphoric/smash you right in the crotch stuff ALL the meth before discovering Silk Road last year - had.
After 10 grams of 5 different vendors in a month and a half - no a single dose was anything more than marching powder! Made me want to run up and down my stairs, but no euphoria and sex was the very last thing on my mind under the influence of those 10 grams.....
Until yesterday when a crushed to white powder .5gram came in the mail for me and wow! Pardon my french but that shit had me calling all over town for my gf so I could get REAL busy.
So, TheCompany is selling meth right now. I just purchased 4 more (he only sells .5 grams packages. It's still cheaper than any of the other grams I purchased even adding 2 coins for priority mail. 21 btcs and some change I think.
Keep this in mind always when trying anyone's meth, just because my order was the real thing, doesn't mean that you find feeling euphoric and aroused is what you want. I used to think that is why everyone did it, even Hitler, but I don't know how y'all get off smoking it either so don't go by what anyone else says. Every review of everyone of the vendors that sold me 10 grams recently said they had the best shit. But for me if was 100% speedy, clean your house marching powder and 0% what I have always done meth for.
I think there's 4 more halves about an hour ago. They're new and don't have any quantities, but as I said, for 10 coins you should just buy one and make up your own mind about it. For me, it was what I threw several thousand dollars away on - wasn't.
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Shrug? Hope that helps! Sorry, haven't even laid down since yesterday noon! Feel pretty good still! And not once did I feel like cleaning my house! LOl
Oh! No FE required. I have never done it and never will! I recommend to everyone - don't throw away your Silk Road guaranteed protection of those expensive bitcoins by finalizing until you get you order! It shows no class to FE because you just can't live without ..... what ever it is they're asking you to FE for.
JUST SAY NO! TO FE!
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So The Company has the best dope in your opinion? Have you tried many others here on SR? why did u post this here and not in main meth thread and in the companys reviews?
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@ FredLint I just checked out some of your older post in which you descrive DubG's shit as being the bes and "euphoric" which u just claimed you never got from SR..
so stories arent lining up
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My .5 is eleven days old with no response from VMM. I think he's gonzo.
Where's TheCompaqny gone? WTF?
That's probably why smaller quantities sell for such a premium, because of the major headaches a vendor takes on when selling down to that level.
Exactly jpinkman!
Become a vendor for 1 month, sell only single pills and small amounts of what ever and you will learn that while there is the potential to make some coin it's not all that! I stopped after only a month because I couldn't take as good a care of each and every customer,, no matter what they spent using PMs as a telephone. SR timing out constantly .... you name it, takes for ever to just respond to a single customers inquiries using PMs. Or any type of anonymous method. We need phones that are as anonymous as Tor and SR are so it doesn't take days literally sometimes to answer and ask questions - all important!
So I did the math entering in the sad long looks on my dogs faces while my tiny little business stole all their time with Daddy they used to have. And the unforeseen headaches that happen with anything, just wasn't worth what I made.
To make it work I was having to become shorter and shorter with my customers. That I couldn't do! So I am just a dumb buyer again! Halijula and pass the gravy! Lol!
Oh I almost forgot to ask, everyone here seems to have lost money with vortexmilkdud. Did y'all loose your moneys because you finalized early please? If so then you have no one but yo-seffs for losing your cash. vortexmilkdud canceled 2 of my orders because - come on! say it with me friends! (I) NEVER FINALIZE BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR PACKAGE IN HAND!
I probably could have been more polite in my reply to his PM demanding me to pay up and, "just finalize and I'll get your orders off to you". But I wasn't (shameful confession) I told him to put his crystals where the sun never shines and good riddance to bad rubbish!
But come on people! The genius of Silk Road's escrow, resolve - all of it was designed to protect buyer and vendors equally! Don't second guess and/or over think why they say to do this or that, just do it! Silk Road sez, a doan do it! Period!
Also I've noticed a lot of vendors info/home pages tell you not to give up your right of protection by operating outside of Silk Road guidelines, specifically using anything but bitcoins in escrow and never finalizing until you have received what you were advertised you would get. Dub no longer requires FE to buy from him. He even wrote a very FredLint-ish in content and very supportive statement for not finalizing. I was impressed! I had to wait months to try his as I have never finalized and I never will.
I'm not a good looser so if someone burned me if I FEed then I would search him down no matter what it took and slap his silly face! Lol! Ask anyone who knows me!
But from most of the energy pouring off the posts here, it seems I'm not alone in that type of good ole western way of dealing with people that rip you off. So how I keep my blood pressure down at least in that area, I just follow SR guidelines. If I'm not clear on something I ask them.
When I asked them if the Senior SRFs member(s) that was or were threatening to have me booted from SR forums and The Road for ever! - just because I post that you shouldn't finalize your coins until your order has arrived; I shared those threats, not from who they came with SR Support just to ask if I was acting so inappropriate that I was being threatened over what I said - politely I might add!; was I wrong to assume I could come here and share my thoughts what ever they might be and/or agree with or disagree with others posts and thoughts. They told me that some members get really passionate about some things, especially vendors that require FE. I kept that PM from them because they wrote to me back and this is copy and pasted here,
'"Never finalize until you get your order gets to you. If the time nears and you have not received your package, use your 'resolve' button so the time limit to auto-finalize doesn't run out. Using the resolve, extends the auto-finalize date so something can hopefully be worked out between buy and vendor alike. Using 'resolve' is not held against you in any way. We put it there so you can extend the due date and avoid it auto-finalizing in cases where you didn't get your package yet.
If you do finalize early unfortunately there is no recourse Silk Road can help you with. Never finalize early!
I'm glad to have been a help.
~SR Support"'
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It really angered at least one senior member anyway, because they made the threat publicly and that was the day I noticed the little "karma" next to my name. Each time I did or said anything the rulers of the forums (just kidding) didn't like or went against what they wanted to think, more -/karma would magically appear! When I realized it was those members that didn't like myself and 2 other members one day who were supporting each other in our views of not finalizing early, all 3 of us watched as the -/karma's kept coming next to each of our names!
Now how childish is that! Who decided to give those cyber bullies 'karma pistol' anyway? Lol!
Probably get more from this, lol - but anyway, TheCompany didn't ask for FE with any of 6 orders I purchased from them this last week either. Only European dealers I've seen ask for it anymore and not even all them! CrystalWife doesn't require it, it's becoming less and less acceptable behavior for vendors to ask for it and buyers to just do it. Finalizing Early for ...... how does it say, oh yeh! "Finalized Early for trusted vendor", that's not a way to show your gratitude or respect to a "trusted vendor". In my store I posted on each item in caps to please never finalize early and yet one customer that felt so good about my product and 100 percent positive reviews, finalized anyway. That totally through my book keeping because what little records of business there are, they are ALL kemp in this gum drop of a brain of mine so it really through me for a loop. I PMed that customer and told them thank you but to not do it again PLEASE! He got so upset I thought he would cry! I didn't mean to sound angry, but fucking PMs do that. No facial expressions, no body language - nothing that the human animal uses when communicating face to face with another being that helps you decide what a person is feeling. If words are the source of misunderstanding then surely any form of electronic communication, texting, e-mail anything that isn't you and I sitting close talking, must be misunderstanding to the 10th power!
You realize most of the negative postings and dialog in the forums are about not getting a package and having FEed for any reason causing the lost of even a bitcoin is hard to take.
Of course that's just a stupid old hippy's opinion and what do I know?!
:)
Peace ???
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@ FredNavalLint what are you even talking about? you go on and on spewing nonsense about nothing, find a proper thread to do that in. only 2 sentences had anything to do with VMM. (and im sure that was you who shot me with your negative karma death-ray coz i called you out on your own words) LOLZ
And some people value their buyer stats so escrow isnt always the perfect answer. many people release funds to keep that percent down....you say you were a vendor but do not realize that?
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I'm not a good looser so if someone burned me if I FEed then I would search him down no matter what it took and slap his silly face! Lol! Ask anyone who knows me!
Whoo yeah. Because in the anonymous darknet we could so easily dial in your references to learn what a virtual tough guy you are and how you're not to be fucked with. But why bother when we can sense how tough you are just by the way you type? The mere thought of mounting a credible defense against your admittedly slap happy, Michael Jackson-esque fighting style without losing our shit is one that any self respecting man would find challenging. And I have no doubt you mean business.
If any vendor dare jerk you around you'd be first in line to plunk down 20k for the services of a darknet assassin for hire just to prove your point. I'm sure that's why VMM never dared fuck with you, cause he knew it would just be too dangerous and intimidating to cross a big man like you who would be ready to slap him silly.
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VortexMilkman... what a steaming pile of lying turd.
He said he'd sent it for the 3rd time, 20 days ago... Still a no show.
Can this thread be locked and marked for deletion already so we can all forget about this ass.
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2.5gm...ordered early march
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Since I'm sober, I can guarantee this isn't paranoid tweak speak. It reads choppy becuase I tried to keep this concise.
Am I the only sees that VMM is still around using a different pseudonym? What raised my suspicions was his distinct writing style add to that his anger and insecurity issues, for me he sticks out like a sore thumb, but tuthfully even that wasn't enough to convince me. There are some other blaring details that were confirmed when I ordered from him. I'm not going to share my suspicions, or make accusations that I cannot verify with 100% certainty. I'm only hoping to raise your awareness.
Some of the things I noticed; the way he styled his ven page. Not what was written, but how it was written and his use of punctuation. The next thing was the product listings.... Really VMM?! for fucks sake if you go out, to sell H and Meth, two very distinct and hard to obtain drugs, its pretty much a fingerprint when you come back selling them under a different pseudonym...Then there is the one thing you cannot change unless you work at USPS. The postal seal!!! DURRRRRRRR!!!!!
There are some other details. Like when people get mad they are not worried about keeping their cover. So when they start name calling, they will tend to use the same words or phrases.
For me it's not about the money. (I'll c/p the last PM I sent him (29 days ago) at the end of this. ) It's that:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE'S A FUCKING COWARD JUNKIE THAT SHOULD BE PUT D****N (edit*** in his place***) LIKE THE LAME BITCH HE HIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is all written under my own handle, I don't have to go run and hide like some little bitch, and the only reason I edited the statement above was I don't want to take the chance of being suspended for some litlte piece of shit.
~Space
********************************** C/P message to VMM written 29 days ago ***************************************
I appreciate the reply. I'm not going to kick a person when they're down. If you are sincere, and at some point want to make things right, then when you are ready to send let me know and I'll be happy to resend my info. As it is now I don't want to get my hopes up for no reason. I wish you the best and truly hope you get back on your feet and things turn around for you.
~Space
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As far as who I suspect; I will not coment either way. On the point of rep managment you are absolutely correct. In the end everything is based on the image you project to others.
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Again sir, I do not disagree.
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Yup. I've heard others raise this suspicion. I might be able to write off his convenient disappearance just as a new vendor pops up with a similar writing style and anger management issues as possible coincidence. But the postal code pretty much seals it.
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As I've said, two types of users exist - the really smart and the, well, opposite. SR is fucking itself. The concept works, yet the implementation is poor. Traditionally, invention is rare, but rather, the modification of a proven model finds success.
The dipshits running this place are driving it straight into the ground. I wish I had the time and risk tolerance because this is a cash cow that has yet to be milked. The legality of drugs is directly related to the... neva mind.
Great model, poor execution. The moderators are exemplary to the sites demise.
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Thanks for all those criticizing, the company for being VMM. From those that have confirmed the postcode, is the product as good as before, or were you so outraged you threw it away.
BTW, I lost two orders in VMMs last month, but prior to that had received some of the best meth I have had. Remember we are dealing in an illegal activity and noone but VMM will ever know what happened and why he took the actions he did.
And I hear most people on this site use drugs, and the media says never trust a drug user 8)
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Looks like Vortex turns 1 year old in a couple days. Maybe he's preparing for a shocking comeback... ::)
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still owed 0.5g :( come on vmm :P
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still owed 0.5g :( come on vmm :P
That sucks.... scrolling back 50 pages, one would think you encouraged others to buy despite the obvious. Oh well, chump change to some.
FYI, he is back, but can you guess whom he has become?
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at the time i was owed nothing and i was just being honest to the fact he owed me nothing and had always come though for me, he sent me a gram a couple of weeks ago and said the .5 will follow, he has since vanished after having his account cut again, and tbf he did try to solve all issues but he was fighting a losing battle with all the neg energy about!
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The V man comes through! Thats right 81 days and he is still manning up! This says something about this guy imo he hasn't bitched out like Tony "lick the cheese of my nob" 69 has explained the situation and while its not my full order I know he will man up and come through like he always has!
On ya VMM
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Hoffa, did you just receive an old order from Vortex? If so, this is grand news! :D
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Great model, poor execution. The moderators are exemplary to the sites demise.
First, let me make it clear that my posting is addressed to SR Admin and the Community. It is not a criticism of any particular vendors. I think if you make accusations you better be able to back them up or risk looking like a stupid junky scammer. Dishonesty operates on both sides of the fence.
I must say I would like to see SR Admin. take a more pro-active role on this site to ensure that scams are less likely to occur. Surely, it's not rocket science to see old vendors reappear with new accounts... how can this ever be o.k.? A vendor usually loses their account over some very real grievances or an inability to meet the demands required by their obligations. If you can't meet the responsibilities of your account ideally the vendor would be the one to step forward, admit that they are having difficulty, and volunteer to freeze any further purchases until all the older orders have been filled. I have seen vendors redeem themselves before and I have seen others spin out of control. If they can't do that themselves then the SR Admin needs to assert it's authority: failure to do so would make it complicit in any fraudulent activity esp. newbies whose first experience and impression of SR is to get fleeced by known scammers.
Perhaps there has to be a higher standard of getting a vendors account: I am not saying photo I.D. or anything contrary to anonymity but perhaps a double check with closed vendors accounts looking for any striking similarities e.g. zip codes,writing styles,basic social engineering. It is to the detriment of this site not to safeguard the general reputation of vendors and it creates a toxic atmosphere of suspicion and doubt. There really does need to be a more responsive, pro-active role role here for SR Admin. Perhaps there needs to be a new thread re: Admin issues... why not? The Forum is here for the purposes of open communication and expression... surely, SR Admin is not an exception to the rules which all of us are expected to follow. The current system is a mere bureaucratic screen and there seems to be no accountability... it keeps on repeating the same mistakes over and over...when it should be learning and improving with each experience.
Of course, don't FE for anyone... buyer beware...read the reviews and feedback...etc,etc...but also.. stop allowing scammer's to operate under different accounts...pay more attention to the grievances of buyers. Is that too much to ask? The onus of responsibility needs to be distributed more evenly. Up to now the buyers have shouldered the responsibilities on their own. What role does Admin play? Perhaps this is the legitimate question that needs to be asked. Shall we set-up a new public thread re: Concerns for SR Admin? Instead of whispering and Pming each other privately let's bring our grievances out into the open. There needs to be more accountability for those in the position of responsibility. Is this unfair, or unreasonable?
I for one believe that sunshine makes for the best disinfectant.
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Hoffa, did you just receive an old order from Vortex? If so, this is grand news! :D
Hey mate just shy of 3 months! Like I said, it not my whole order bit it is a start, and really he could have just said fuck it all I'm out, but he is still standing by his commitment. And for that he moves up a notch!
I have also chosen not to be a cunt to him, and at times its tough but he does communicate and that is a big plus. Nothing worse than zero communication to piss a buyer of.
Have faith kids, I did!
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That's awesome!!! I'm only a few days short of the three month mark myself so hope is rekindled. I hope if he does follow through with me that he sends a message first as I have since moved faaaaar from the mailbox with the address he has :P
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i have faith ;D
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That's awesome!!! I'm only a few days short of the three month mark myself so hope is rekindled. I hope if he does follow through with me that he sends a message first as I have since moved faaaaar from the mailbox with the address he has :P
He actually sent me a message two days prior to confirm me delivery address, so hope you receive the same service! Sending good thoughts your way mate. I know the pain of waiting!
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FYI, he is back, but can you guess whom he has become?
yeah i know cos i ordered of them
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He's a lying piece of shit. I messaged him asking when my 3-months-ago order would be fulfilled, and he said he had no product and no cash, so he couldn't do anything.
Perhaps not fucking take money via FE if you don't have the product, you utter cunt? Ponzi scheme, and yes, I too thought The Store was his new account.
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He's a lying piece of shit. I messaged him asking when my 3-months-ago order would be fulfilled, and he said he had no product and no cash, so he couldn't do anything.
Perhaps not fucking take money via FE if you don't have the product, you utter cunt? Ponzi scheme, and yes, I too thought The Store was his new account.
The Store is not VMM.
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that is the most contradictory thing i have ever seen written on here ABC !! LOL was quite funny.. i see what ya did there..
your all like VMM doesnt do shit here anymore... but im getting some stuffies from him :P LOL..
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He's a lying piece of shit. I messaged him asking when my 3-months-ago order would be fulfilled, and he said he had no product and no cash, so he couldn't do anything.
Perhaps not fucking take money via FE if you don't have the product, you utter cunt? Ponzi scheme, and yes, I too thought The Store was his new account.
TheStore? Really? That's just retarded.
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yeah i think it is safe to say that the VMM name is gone, but he is still about under another handle. I'm sure a lot of you know who that is....NOT 'the store' though!!!!!
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Nope not the store, guess again there aint many to choose from lol, and im sure its been said in a few other threads :D
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Nope not the store, guess again there aint many to choose from lol, and im sure its been said in a few other threads :D
My guess would be BigSkyMeds seeing that my order seems to fit the pattern of my current EXPRESS order that was "shipped Tuesday".
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thats bad tuesday and i nearly ordered of bigskymeds glad i didnt now
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thats bad tuesday and i nearly ordered of bigskymeds glad i didnt now
Just so ya know, I DID receive it today. Look at my posts and it gives the "explanation". I am not endorsing them by any means, and I'm on someone else's gear, so I am not even opening the package until I'm home to see what I got. I'll test in the morning to let ya know exactly what we're working with. It was a packaging issue that held it up to make a long story short.
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Hint: name the band of that evil fucking cheesy eighties song "We built this city on Rock and Roll".
There ya go. :)
btw: named "worst song of the eighties" by Rolling Stone magazine.
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Neither BigSkyMeds nor Starlight Express is VMM. I promise you.
I still think the Company is his new handle, and nothing anybody has said has persuaded me to think differently.
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I believe that the milkman has transformed into everyone. If you read back he mentions this himself.
It would not surprise me if he has meth super-powers that allow this to happen.
When ya think about it... theres a little bit of VMM in all of us, so its kinda like, his spirit will live on thru us
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Neither BigSkyMeds nor Starlight Express is VMM. I promise you.
I still think the Company is his new handle, and nothing anybody has said has persuaded me to think differently.
Ditto - he's the company, same spelling errors.
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Best shit ever. the loop the loop is BACK. haha. <3
fucking wot u have u done to me son.
You're retarded. Seriously.
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Best shit ever. the loop the loop is BACK. haha. <3
fucking wot u have u done to me son.
You're retarded. Seriously.
Playing up to the crowd. You should know that by now. ;)
hahahaha and you do it so well ABC!!! Master of shit stir!!! ;)
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You're mistaken the voice in your head for a "crowd." Whatever, you're from Iceland. What else do you have to do.... killing time until your worthless contribution to society ends.
I look forward to reading you 57 responses when I login three days from now. By the way, I understand what tweaker means, now...
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+1 for you, ya ozzie cunt!!! You have kept the community informed of who has good shit as you were buying way more meth than anyone here at one point and personally I like reading the ramblings of a tweaker!!
-1 for minorthreat71 tho as you have been a little out of order here dude! sorry!! isn't it odd how you have -9 karma and only 1+?? if you talk this way it is not surprising. Yeah ABC does chat a lot of shit but also a lot of great info comes from him!! I think he is a great character to have around and gives us jokes with his insane lifestyle....Oh and by the way....He is not from Iceland...You did get that it's a joke right??
What is the big deal about having a bit of banter here?? I also wish people would lighten up a bit!!! for fucks sake!!
I just smoked a pipe n buzzin watching Greece vs Germany in the Euro 2012 football........C'mon Greece!!!
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Im quite thankful ABC is retarded. I look forward to seeing his twacked out retarded posts. Its ppl like him that keep a forum from being boring and mundane...
If ABC had a blog i'd subscribe :P
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Im quite thankful ABC is retarded. I look forward to seeing his twacked out retarded posts. Its ppl like him that keep a forum from being boring and mundane...
If ABC had a blog i'd subscribe :P
^^ this!! I love his madness/retardedness whatever you wanna call it!! lol I would also subscribe to a blog if he had one!! Keep bringing the insanity ABC!! Fuck the boring & bitter, toffee nosed cunts who give you shit! I'm sure they won't deter you tho son!! ;)
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Shocker....
Only dorks like you would care about "karma" points on an anonymous website or any website for that matter. Oh wait, 12 year old prepubescent children worry about their online reputation.
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haha i was thinking.... 'im not even going to dignify that with a response'
but i guess i have now huh.....
I'm not here to argue, just no need for your attitude over a few harmless posts from another user....
:)
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Ring ding dong bitches keep ringing my name up ring ding dong.... do my eyes deceive me or does the vortexman have a serious meth problem?